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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/17/vets-group-blasts-obama-plan-private-insurance-pay-service-related-health-care/
Veterans Groups Blast Obama Plan for Private Insurance to Pay for Service-Related Health Care President Obama's plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs for the treatment of troops injured in service has angered veterans groups who say the government has a moral obligation to pay for service-related medical care. Obama Wanted Wounded Soldiers To Pay For Their Own Med Care from Their Private Insurance Posted by Intelligence Report on June 13, 2009 at 1:16pm View Intelligence Report's blog This is a rehash of something Obama had said before about our military men and women...Something this morning caught my eye on this,so I read it and then I felt nothing but rage go through me and contact my friend Earl who is a military veteran and a damn good jounalist. I contacted Earl and asked him to see if he could find the remarks made by Obama on this issue. I felt it is worth revisiting this issues as it gives people some insight into what Obama is really all about. When this first came out a couple of months back,even some liberals in his own party spoke out against him...Please find below Obama's remarks on our military paying for their own medical care. http://intelligencereport.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-wanted-wounded-soldiers From: Dick Eastman Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:02 AM Obama wanted wounded soldiers to pay for medical care with their private health insurance -- when it became politically too hot he backed off, but then said this Obama wanted wounded soldiers to pay for medical care with their private health insurance -- when it became politically too hot he backed off, but then said this HERE IS HIS RESPONSE WHEN HE BACKED OFF FROM HIS DECISION TO LET THE MILITARY PAY FOR THEIR WAR INJURIES..... Bad press, including major mockery of the plan by comedian Jon Stewart, led to President Obama abandoning his proposal to require veterans' private health insurance to cover the estimated $540 million annual cost to the federal government of treatment for injuries to military personnel received during their tours on active duty. The President admitted that he was puzzled by the magnitude of the opposition to his proposal. "Look, it's an all volunteer force," Obama complained. "Nobody made these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? It doesn't compute.." "I thought these were people who were proud to sacrifice for their country," Obama continued. "I wasn't asking for blood - just money. With the country facing the worst financial crisis in its history, I'd have thought that the patriotic thing to do would be to try to help reduce the nation's deficit. I guess I underestimated the selfishness of some of my fellow Americans." |
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Found this too: * The The Recovery Act provides the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America’s Veterans. o The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) enables the VA to improve medical facilities and national cemeteries, provide grants to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities, and to modify or alter existing facilities to care for Veterans. o VA will dedicate ARRA funds to hire and train 1,500 temporary claims processors to speed benefits delivery to Veterans and pursue needed information technology initiatives for improved benefits and services. Funds will also be used to oversee and audit programs, grants, and projects funded under ARRA. o As part of the President’s Recovery plan, VA will also make one-time payments of $250 to eligible Veterans and survivors to mitigate the effects of the current economy. These payments will be issued as early as June 2009. VA estimates $700 million in payments will be made to eligible beneficiaries as part of this measure. The President announced the Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Initiative. Both the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs will work together to define and build a system that will ultimately contain administrative and medical information from the day an individual enters military service throughout their military career, and into the Veteran phase of life. The President’s message to those who serve is this: when you come home to America, America will be there for you. This Administration will ensure that DoD and VA coordinate to provide a seamless transition from active duty to civilian life and help fix the benefit bureaucracy. This Administration will work towards modernizing the way health care is delivered and benefits are administered for our nation's veterans. VA Healthcare With Secretary Shinseki, the President will make sure the VA provides veterans the best care possible. This means improved care for poly-trauma, vision impairment, prosthetics, spinal cord injury, aging, and women's health. Because the nightmares of war don't always end when our loved ones return home, this Administration will work to meet the mental health needs of our veterans. Untold thousands of servicemen and women and veterans suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder or other serious psychological injury. This Administration is determined to address the challenges of caring for those affected by PTSD when they return home. Because thousands of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have suffered from Traumatic Brain Injury, one of the signature injuries of these wars, this Administration will continue to improve services for cognitive injuries and ensure our veterans receive the on-going care they need. and the President supports advance appropriations for the VA budget so that healthcare for veterans is not hindered by budget delays. VA Services We all share the shame of well over one hundred thousand veterans going homeless on any given night. This Administration will work on pilot programs with not-for-profit organizations to make sure that veterans at risk of losing their homes have a roof over their heads. Finally, this Administration recognizes that our veterans deserve something more -- an equal chance to reach for the very dream they defend. This Administration is committed to providing the resources to effectively implement the Post-9/11 GI Bill – providing every returning service member with a real chance to afford a college education. http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/veterans/ "For their service and sacrifice, warm words of thanks from a grateful nation are more than warranted, but they aren't nearly enough. We also owe our veterans the care they were promised and the benefits that they have earned. We have a sacred trust with those who wear the uniform of the United States of America. It's a commitment that begins at enlistment, and it must never end. But we know that for too long, we've fallen short of meeting that commitment. Too many wounded warriors go without the care that they need. Too many veterans don't receive the support that they've earned. Too many who once wore our nation's uniform now sleep in our nation's streets." -President Obama, March 19, 2009 
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yes, thank you to whoever happens to be a vet or currently still active  You're welcome :D |
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All I have to say about this is this is the EXACT reason I never joined! We are led by IDIOTS! Obama needs to be thrown out of office on a rail tied to a chair like the corrupt KKK loving incumbent governor in Oh Brother Where Art Thou. I have a terrible feeling Obama may incite an open rebellion against our government yet! He is such a CHOAD! I never voted for him. I never supported him. I complained about him all along and I still stand by my words, OBAMA! YOU SUCK! Ohhh puhlease. You don't even know if it's true. And I suppose his statement that, "corporate greed is white man's greed," was a fabrication as well? I don't believe everything but I am not about to go calling people liars arbitrarily. Obama is a train wreck waiting to happen. Someone here is going to dig up the link. Stuff like this is too far fetched to be a chain mail fabrication. Obama shot his mouth off before and he is very calculating. If his socialized medical plan is so great why is he meeting so much resistance. He is already trying to tie our military's hands behind their backs not counting this "issue." He is a socialist, elitist, racist CHOAD! Luv you too Winx! 
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THIS COULD BE THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS STATEMENT EVER MADE BY A PUBLIC OFFICIAL LET ALONE BY A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THIS GUY IS OUR "COMMANDER IN CHIEF". HE IS A DISGRACE. HERE IS HIS RESPONSE WHEN HE BACKED OFF FROM HIS DECISION TO LET THE MILITARY PAY FOR THEIR WAR INJURIES. WHAT AN EMPTY HEADED PERSON HE TRULY IS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO SEE!!.... Bad press, including major mockery of the plan by comedian Jon Stewart, led to President Obama abandoning his proposal to require veterans carry private health insurance to cover the estimated $540 million annual cost to the federal government of treatment for injuries to military personnel received during their tours on active duty. The President admitted that he was puzzled by the magnitude of the opposition to his proposal. "Look, it's an all volunteer force," Obama complained. "Nobody made these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? It doesn't compute.." "I thought these were people who were proud to sacrifice for their country, "Obama continued. "I wasn't asking for blood, just money. With the country facing the worst financial crisis in its history, I'd have thought that the patriotic thing to do would be to try to help reduce the nation's deficit. I guess I underestimated the selfishness of some of my fellow Americans." Please pass this on to every one including every vet and their families whom you know. How in the world did a person with this mindset become our leader? Well, NOT MY LEADER!! I didn't vote for him!!! And none of my coherent or competent intellectually honest friends did either!! REMEMBER THIS STATEMENT... "Nobody made these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? If this DUMB *** thinks he will ever get another vote from an Active Duty, Reserve, National Guard service member or veteran of a military service he ought to think it over. If you or a family member is or has served their country please pass this to them. Please pass this to everyone. I'm guessing that "other than the 20-25 percent hardcore liberals" in the US will agree that this is just another example why this is the worst president in American history. Remind everyone over and over how this man thinks, while he bows to the Saudi Arabian king. O ne B ig A ss M istake A merica 1262 more days of this incompetent Anti-American buffoon. You all are probably going to tear me apart, but that's okay. I really don't see the problem with some of his statement. Let me break it down. The nation is blessed to have willing men and women to enter the military. People should enter because they WANT too. And they should go in knowing the consequences. (though I know its not possible to know all the consequences but people generally have a really good idea of it) Don't get me wrong ... I love the people with the balls to be a fighter for our country. I respect them and appreciate them. I have some friends in the military. And the military should be patriotic people. And what money was Obama asking for? Something needs to be done about the debt we are in. Millions of people are suffering, including myself to where I'm slowly sinking. I don't think Obama is a horrible president. He is a hell of a lot better than Bush. Bush was incompetent and continued to let our men and women suffer more than they needed to in the war with iraq. So Obama isn't perfect ... NO ONE is, but I'm democratic because the republicans, to me, just don't care about the people in america. Bush came off as fake to me. He's actions looked fake and the way he spoke seemed like an act. The people whining about the costs? They were PROBABLY people who just went in the military strictly for the money and to get somewhere in life. As a veteran  (((((((HUGGS)))))))I appreciate it! I didn't fight only for your freedom luv. I fought for my comrades in arms, the constitution of the United States and the commander and chief, who at that time wasn't very popular either. |
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Summary of the eRumor:
A forwarded email from an Army wife warning that President Obama wants the military personnel to get their own health insurance to pay for the treatment of injuries in line of duty. She urges readers to contact their elected Senators and Representatives to put a stop to this plan. The Truth: On March16, 2009, members of the American Legion met with President Obama where he discussed "a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries." The non-profit veterans service organization, American Legion, issued a statement voicing its concerns on its web site shortly after the meeting. Click here for statement. Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion said that Obama “ is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it.” A March 17, 2009 CNN article said the "chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs vowed Tuesday that the plan would never gain the panel's approval. 'VA's sacred duty is to care for veterans injured in honorable service to our nation, and the department should not turn to wounded warriors' private insurance to pay for combat injures,' said Sen. Daniel Akaka, D-Hawaii. 'Under my chairmanship, the Veterans' Affairs Committee will not advance any such legislation.'" On the afternoon of March 18, 2009 Fox News reported that the Obama administration has changed their mind on this plan. Later forwarded versions of this eRumor included a quote not by President Obama but by the writing staff of the Jon Stewart show at COMEDY CENTRAL. Stewart made fun of this proposal during his satirical news/current events program and included a fictional quote attributed to the President. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-veteran-insurance.htm now I don't mind debating what was really said...but a chain email??? come on |
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Kim, Thanks for checkin it out
That's why I had asked for a link, I'd find it hard to believe that he'd be that much of an idiot to say such things. One thing a President wouldn't want to do is tick of millions of Vets an Active duty military. We are so not a bunch to be messed with. 
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Edited by
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I don't really care for Obama. I don't care for the politics of the left
but he is just another Democrat President doing the stuff that I would expect a Democrat President to do. He's not a socialist Hitler and I am just as annoyed and irritated with all this right wing manipulation and distortion propaganda as I was when the left was doing it to Bush I don't see much difference between them and moveon.org and Ciny Sheehan they must think we're idiots oh. I guess some of us are |
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All I have to say about this is this is the EXACT reason I never joined! We are led by IDIOTS! Obama needs to be thrown out of office on a rail tied to a chair like the corrupt KKK loving incumbent governor in Oh Brother Where Art Thou. I have a terrible feeling Obama may incite an open rebellion against our government yet! He is such a CHOAD! I never voted for him. I never supported him. I complained about him all along and I still stand by my words, OBAMA! YOU SUCK! Ohhh puhlease. You don't even know if it's true. And I suppose his statement that, "corporate greed is white man's greed," was a fabrication as well? I don't believe everything but I am not about to go calling people liars arbitrarily. Obama is a train wreck waiting to happen. Someone here is going to dig up the link. Stuff like this is too far fetched to be a chain mail fabrication. Obama shot his mouth off before and he is very calculating. If his socialized medical plan is so great why is he meeting so much resistance. He is already trying to tie our military's hands behind their backs not counting this "issue." He is a socialist, elitist, racist CHOAD! Luv you too Winx! greed is a white man's thing. It always has been. Don't hate because he's not a president that fails to tell us the truth. |
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All I have to say about this is this is the EXACT reason I never joined! We are led by IDIOTS! Obama needs to be thrown out of office on a rail tied to a chair like the corrupt KKK loving incumbent governor in Oh Brother Where Art Thou. I have a terrible feeling Obama may incite an open rebellion against our government yet! He is such a CHOAD! I never voted for him. I never supported him. I complained about him all along and I still stand by my words, OBAMA! YOU SUCK! Ohhh puhlease. You don't even know if it's true. And I suppose his statement that, "corporate greed is white man's greed," was a fabrication as well? I don't believe everything but I am not about to go calling people liars arbitrarily. Obama is a train wreck waiting to happen. Someone here is going to dig up the link. Stuff like this is too far fetched to be a chain mail fabrication. Obama shot his mouth off before and he is very calculating. If his socialized medical plan is so great why is he meeting so much resistance. He is already trying to tie our military's hands behind their backs not counting this "issue." He is a socialist, elitist, racist CHOAD! funny but all the folks I know serving now respect him tremondously!!!! Where do u people get this stuff? The National NO Brains weekly? |
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All I have to say about this is this is the EXACT reason I never joined! We are led by IDIOTS! Obama needs to be thrown out of office on a rail tied to a chair like the corrupt KKK loving incumbent governor in Oh Brother Where Art Thou. I have a terrible feeling Obama may incite an open rebellion against our government yet! He is such a CHOAD! I never voted for him. I never supported him. I complained about him all along and I still stand by my words, OBAMA! YOU SUCK! Ohhh puhlease. You don't even know if it's true. And I suppose his statement that, "corporate greed is white man's greed," was a fabrication as well? I don't believe everything but I am not about to go calling people liars arbitrarily. Obama is a train wreck waiting to happen. Someone here is going to dig up the link. Stuff like this is too far fetched to be a chain mail fabrication. Obama shot his mouth off before and he is very calculating. If his socialized medical plan is so great why is he meeting so much resistance. He is already trying to tie our military's hands behind their backs not counting this "issue." He is a socialist, elitist, racist CHOAD! funny but all the folks I know serving now respect him tremondously!!!! Where do u people get this stuff? The National NO Brains weekly? |
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All I have to say about this is this is the EXACT reason I never joined! We are led by IDIOTS! Obama needs to be thrown out of office on a rail tied to a chair like the corrupt KKK loving incumbent governor in Oh Brother Where Art Thou. I have a terrible feeling Obama may incite an open rebellion against our government yet! He is such a CHOAD! I never voted for him. I never supported him. I complained about him all along and I still stand by my words, OBAMA! YOU SUCK! Ohhh puhlease. You don't even know if it's true. And I suppose his statement that, "corporate greed is white man's greed," was a fabrication as well? I don't believe everything but I am not about to go calling people liars arbitrarily. Obama is a train wreck waiting to happen. Someone here is going to dig up the link. Stuff like this is too far fetched to be a chain mail fabrication. Obama shot his mouth off before and he is very calculating. If his socialized medical plan is so great why is he meeting so much resistance. He is already trying to tie our military's hands behind their backs not counting this "issue." He is a socialist, elitist, racist CHOAD! funny but all the folks I know serving now respect him tremondously!!!! Where do u people get this stuff? The National NO Brains weekly? love you, mikey. lol ... I'm wondering the same. My friends in the military were relieved to have Obama. |
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Edited by
byteme
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I don't really care for Obama. I don't care for the politics of the left but he is just another Democrat President doing the stuff that I would expect a Democrat President to do. He's not a socialist Hitler and I am just as annoyed and irritated with all this right wing manipulation and distortion propaganda as I was when the left was doing it to Bush I don't see much difference between them and moveon.org and Ciny Sheehan they must think we're idiots oh. I guess some of us are |
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I have friends in the military that didn't vote for him and don't care for his politics now.
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 All I have to say about this is this is the EXACT reason I never joined! We are led by IDIOTS! Obama needs to be thrown out of office on a rail tied to a chair like the corrupt KKK loving incumbent governor in Oh Brother Where Art Thou. I have a terrible feeling Obama may incite an open rebellion against our government yet! He is such a CHOAD! I never voted for him. I never supported him. I complained about him all along and I still stand by my words, OBAMA! YOU SUCK! Ohhh puhlease. You don't even know if it's true. And I suppose his statement that, "corporate greed is white man's greed," was a fabrication as well? I don't believe everything but I am not about to go calling people liars arbitrarily. Obama is a train wreck waiting to happen. Someone here is going to dig up the link. Stuff like this is too far fetched to be a chain mail fabrication. Obama shot his mouth off before and he is very calculating. If his socialized medical plan is so great why is he meeting so much resistance. He is already trying to tie our military's hands behind their backs not counting this "issue." He is a socialist, elitist, racist CHOAD! Luv you too Winx! greed is a white man's thing. It always has been. Don't hate because he's not a president that fails to tell us the truth. Tell that to the crack dealer, black or white. It's all about da' money. NFL players ain't greedy, naw. Dey is black CEOs. Didn't you know they finally let 'em into the inner circle?? What a farce. Only whites are greedy!!
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All I have to say about this is this is the EXACT reason I never joined! We are led by IDIOTS! Obama needs to be thrown out of office on a rail tied to a chair like the corrupt KKK loving incumbent governor in Oh Brother Where Art Thou. I have a terrible feeling Obama may incite an open rebellion against our government yet! He is such a CHOAD! I never voted for him. I never supported him. I complained about him all along and I still stand by my words, OBAMA! YOU SUCK! Ohhh puhlease. You don't even know if it's true. And I suppose his statement that, "corporate greed is white man's greed," was a fabrication as well? I don't believe everything but I am not about to go calling people liars arbitrarily. Obama is a train wreck waiting to happen. Someone here is going to dig up the link. Stuff like this is too far fetched to be a chain mail fabrication. Obama shot his mouth off before and he is very calculating. If his socialized medical plan is so great why is he meeting so much resistance. He is already trying to tie our military's hands behind their backs not counting this "issue." He is a socialist, elitist, racist CHOAD! funny but all the folks I know serving now respect him tremondously!!!! Where do u people get this stuff? The National NO Brains weekly? love you, mikey. lol ... I'm wondering the same. My friends in the military were relieved to have Obama. |
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I don't really care for Obama. I don't care for the politics of the left but he is just another Democrat President doing the stuff that I would expect a Democrat President to do. He's not a socialist Hitler and I am just as annoyed and irritated with all this right wing manipulation and distortion propaganda as I was when the left was doing it to Bush I don't see much difference between them and moveon.org and Ciny Sheehan they must think we're idiots oh. I guess some of us are  
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Who left the gate unlocked?????
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Who left the gate unlocked????? You mean the Asylum gate?
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Found this too: * The The Recovery Act provides the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America’s Veterans. o The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) enables the VA to improve medical facilities and national cemeteries, provide grants to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities, and to modify or alter existing facilities to care for Veterans. o VA will dedicate ARRA funds to hire and train 1,500 temporary claims processors to speed benefits delivery to Veterans and pursue needed information technology initiatives for improved benefits and services. Funds will also be used to oversee and audit programs, grants, and projects funded under ARRA. o As part of the President’s Recovery plan, VA will also make one-time payments of $250 to eligible Veterans and survivors to mitigate the effects of the current economy. These payments will be issued as early as June 2009. VA estimates $700 million in payments will be made to eligible beneficiaries as part of this measure. The President announced the Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Initiative. Both the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs will work together to define and build a system that will ultimately contain administrative and medical information from the day an individual enters military service throughout their military career, and into the Veteran phase of life. The President’s message to those who serve is this: when you come home to America, America will be there for you. This Administration will ensure that DoD and VA coordinate to provide a seamless transition from active duty to civilian life and help fix the benefit bureaucracy. This Administration will work towards modernizing the way health care is delivered and benefits are administered for our nation's veterans. VA Healthcare With Secretary Shinseki, the President will make sure the VA provides veterans the best care possible. This means improved care for poly-trauma, vision impairment, prosthetics, spinal cord injury, aging, and women's health. Because the nightmares of war don't always end when our loved ones return home, this Administration will work to meet the mental health needs of our veterans. Untold thousands of servicemen and women and veterans suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder or other serious psychological injury. This Administration is determined to address the challenges of caring for those affected by PTSD when they return home. Because thousands of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have suffered from Traumatic Brain Injury, one of the signature injuries of these wars, this Administration will continue to improve services for cognitive injuries and ensure our veterans receive the on-going care they need. and the President supports advance appropriations for the VA budget so that healthcare for veterans is not hindered by budget delays. VA Services We all share the shame of well over one hundred thousand veterans going homeless on any given night. This Administration will work on pilot programs with not-for-profit organizations to make sure that veterans at risk of losing their homes have a roof over their heads. Finally, this Administration recognizes that our veterans deserve something more -- an equal chance to reach for the very dream they defend. This Administration is committed to providing the resources to effectively implement the Post-9/11 GI Bill – providing every returning service member with a real chance to afford a college education. http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/veterans/ "For their service and sacrifice, warm words of thanks from a grateful nation are more than warranted, but they aren't nearly enough. We also owe our veterans the care they were promised and the benefits that they have earned. We have a sacred trust with those who wear the uniform of the United States of America. It's a commitment that begins at enlistment, and it must never end. But we know that for too long, we've fallen short of meeting that commitment. Too many wounded warriors go without the care that they need. Too many veterans don't receive the support that they've earned. Too many who once wore our nation's uniform now sleep in our nation's streets." -President Obama, March 19, 2009 Thank you, Mikey. I keep an eye out for VA information. I used to work at the VA and my ex goes there. |
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