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Topic: The reality of finding someone and dating them
John1932's photo
Fri 07/31/09 02:34 PM
Edited by John1932 on Fri 07/31/09 02:36 PM

I have preferences, Im not shallow.frustrated I find all sorts of different people hot, especially if they live within 50 miles of me. Unfortunately lifestyle and communication preferences are vital.sad Im not into dirt bikes or sports. Anyone got a suit of armor and bash people with sticks on the weekend, that’s hot.love

Cool, I like stick bashing too.
Does it have to be shining armor, or will dull worn armor work?

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Fri 07/31/09 03:11 PM

Yeah, until we understand and accept that simply having personal preferences is not the same thing as being "shallow" and "superficial," people will continue to misrepresent themselves in droves.


Exactly. The word "shallow" often gets used when a person doesn't match what someone else is looking for. A shallow / superficial person will ONLY care about looks. Caring about looks along with other things ( intelligence, personality etc ) is NOT shallow.

alternativa's photo
Fri 07/31/09 10:11 PM

The point is: girls LOVE attention from a good-looking guy. They will put up with him being a jerk so they can "try to change him" but we all know that's not gonna happen. Sadly, I think the problem is that if girls get attention from ONE good-looking guy online, they immediately filter out all the guys who don't match up, because they think "If I can get one hot guy to message me, surely I can get others". Do I feel bad for tricking them? Hell no! It was an experiment I'm glad I did because it shows the truth that girls are indeed more superficial than they claim to be... at least online. I can't say the same for a girl who first meets a guy in person.

On the flip side, being kind and courteous? What a load of crap! Girls hate that stuff. If they could have their way, they'd have a super hot guy treat them like total crap over a mediocre guy treating them like a queen. Like I said, with the fake profile, within the first message or 2, I was bringing up personal questions and most were very willing to answer. Now, some were questions I'd never ask from my real profile... I just have too much respect for a girl to ask that kind of stuff. But I suppose that's the problem. I care too much.



Another generalization… oh joy!

Another “I’m a nice guy and that’s the reason women turn away from me” thread… yippee!

Not everyone fits into the same mold.

I’ve dated men who claimed to be a “nice guy”. Some were. Some had an attitude towards women due to past real or imagined injustices. Some were not nice at all, but would swear on someone’s life they were. The one thing MOST of them had in common was negativity. Negativity and the “poor me” attitude is a major turnoff.

I am one of the women you claim is lying about appearances not being important. I often say it and I sincerely mean it. If you base things on appearances, what happens to the relationship as you both age or if one of you is in an accident that changes your appearance?

This site does work if you put forth the effort. I’ve met quite a few people in person from this site and made several friends.

The site also works in ways unintended. I was not looking for or even wanting more than a few new friends who lived closer. I got those, but also got more.

I met someone truly wonderful on this site. We’ve conversed on here, by messenger and telephone for several months. Deep feelings have developed. I only found out what he looks like this past week.

Is he handsome? Absolutely. Did I know this before I saw his photo a few days ago? No. He seemed so hung up on how pretty he thought me to be and made comments about how bad he looked, so I was really expecting him to be below the “normal standard” of attractiveness. If appearances mattered, I would have demanded a photo before opening my heart. He has my heart because he has a loving heart and an intelligent mind. It just so happens that his shell is currently attractive as well.

I know I am not the only woman who truly believes there are more important things than the shell we were lucky or unlucky enough to be born into. I suggest you 1) stop generalizing, 2) drop the negativity and promote yourself in a positive manner instead, and 3) reevaluate what attracts you and why you’re drawn to superficial women.

Best of luck to you. flowerforyou

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Fri 07/31/09 10:14 PM
I just want to be loved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cry: sad sad sad




Ok ... i feel much better now


*Walks away*

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Fri 07/31/09 10:29 PM
hhhmmm I am a little disturbed by this thread. (And yes it is only one mans opinion) I think you would be a little more sucessful if you were a little more positive. Also, I think that the rules for this site are okay...they make the rules. In addition, I believe that if you are going to find someone you have to work at it. It is realy important to show everyone who you are and what you are looking for. Good luck and happy hunting my friend:smile:

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Fri 07/31/09 10:29 PM
hhhmmm I am a little disturbed by this thread. (And yes it is only one mans opinion) I think you would be a little more sucessful if you were a little more positive. Also, I think that the rules for this site are okay...they make the rules. In addition, I believe that if you are going to find someone you have to work at it. It is realy important to show everyone who you are and what you are looking for. Good luck and happy hunting my friend:smile:

John1932's photo
Fri 07/31/09 10:56 PM
Edited by John1932 on Fri 07/31/09 10:57 PM

The truth is, people are gonna be who they are and all the complaining in the world isn't going to change it. If your not in their league then quit trying to play in it or you gonna get your head bit off. I learned this the hard way.
You will learn real quick who likes you and who don't, just pay attention and leave them alone. Thats all you can do..

Good Luckdrinker

alternativa's photo
Fri 07/31/09 11:13 PM

hhhmmm I am a little disturbed by this thread. (And yes it is only one mans opinion) I think you would be a little more sucessful if you were a little more positive. Also, I think that the rules for this site are okay...they make the rules. In addition, I believe that if you are going to find someone you have to work at it. It is realy important to show everyone who you are and what you are looking for. Good luck and happy hunting my friend:smile:


:thumbsup: Beautifully said.

darkowl1's photo
Sat 08/01/09 12:10 AM
Edited by darkowl1 on Sat 08/01/09 12:36 AM
the way these times are, you will run into shallow people for sure, but there are great people here, too many friends to count, and i've met one very special here that has my heart..... and where you are there are many as well, if you look, that are not hung up into this temporary society that is advertising superficial qualities in people....media generalizes!!!

i think if you are just yourself......one, the "nice guy" image doesn't apply, because you are behaving in regular terms, how people are behaving to you, and if they behave badly to you, you have to decide how to act. you can change this, by putting their very behavior back in their court, and not lose face with anyone, by diverting the scenario back to their diotribe or rant, such as" wow, you're really having a time of it! if i can help you to get your day to be more positive, well, let me help", and they will respect you, and that includes handsome or pretty parties of both sexes, whether they are bottom-wipes or not, for you weren't nice or mean...just truthful. it will get you respect, and maybe a friend....
these guys you speak of......
being a tough guy to "get chicks" gets you no-where, and usually the wrong "chick" anyway. to get the attention of the right one, back-up your talk, listen, and be a man of action to back up your talk with quiet positive methods to get your respect that you so much seem to desire.

"tough guys" i've seen a dime a dozen, and they'll leave the woman hanging everytime when the road gets rough...a STRONG GUY, how-ever, will be there to see whatever it is to the end, and respect will follow, and never does he have to act like a jerk. He's a man's man, and a gentle ladie's man as well.

"tough guys" run from STRONG GUYS. unless they have a way to shoot them in the back......but if they do that,,, STRONG GUYS have friends......

so..........................be a strong guy.shades :thumbsup:


alternativa's photo
Sat 08/01/09 12:45 AM

the way these times are, you will run into shallow people for sure, but there are great people here, too many friends to count, and i've met one very special here that has my heart..... and where you are there are many as well, if you look, that are not hung up into this temporary society that is advertising superficial qualities in people....media generalizes!!!

i think if you are just yourself......one, the "nice guy" image doesn't apply, because you are behaving in regular terms, how people are behaving to you, and if they behave badly to you, you have to decide how to act. you can change this, by putting their very behavior back in their court, and not lose face with anyone, by diverting the scenario back to their diotribe or rant, such as" wow, you're really having a time of it! if i can help you to get your day to be more positive, well, let me help", and they will respect you, and that includes handsome or pretty parties of both sexes, whether they are bottom-wipes or not, for you weren't nice or mean...just truthful. it will get you respect, and maybe a friend....
these guys you speak of......
being a tough guy to "get chicks" gets you no-where, and usually the wrong "chick" anyway. to get the attention of the right one, back-up your talk, listen, and be a man of action to back up your talk with quiet positive methods to get your respect that you so much seem to desire.

"tough guys" i've seen a dime a dozen, and they'll leave the woman hanging everytime when the road gets rough...a STRONG GUY, how-ever, will be there to see whatever it is to the end, and respect will follow, and never does he have to act like a jerk. He's a man's man, and a gentle ladie's man as well.

"tough guys" run from STRONG GUYS. unless they have a way to shoot them in the back......but if they do that,,, STRONG GUYS have friends......

so..........................be a strong guy.shades :thumbsup:



THAT’s my strong guy! Very well said and you lead by example. :thumbsup:

:heart: I love you! :heart:

darkowl1's photo
Sat 08/01/09 12:48 AM
thankyou! and i :heart: love you too!!:heart: very strong womandrinker drinker love

John1932's photo
Sat 08/01/09 01:00 AM

the way these times are, you will run into shallow people for sure, but there are great people here, too many friends to count, and i've met one very special here that has my heart..... and where you are there are many as well, if you look, that are not hung up into this temporary society that is advertising superficial qualities in people....media generalizes!!!

i think if you are just yourself......one, the "nice guy" image doesn't apply, because you are behaving in regular terms, how people are behaving to you, and if they behave badly to you, you have to decide how to act. you can change this, by putting their very behavior back in their court, and not lose face with anyone, by diverting the scenario back to their diotribe or rant, such as" wow, you're really having a time of it! if i can help you to get your day to be more positive, well, let me help", and they will respect you, and that includes handsome or pretty parties of both sexes, whether they are bottom-wipes or not, for you weren't nice or mean...just truthful. it will get you respect, and maybe a friend....
these guys you speak of......
being a tough guy to "get chicks" gets you no-where, and usually the wrong "chick" anyway. to get the attention of the right one, back-up your talk, listen, and be a man of action to back up your talk with quiet positive methods to get your respect that you so much seem to desire.

"tough guys" i've seen a dime a dozen, and they'll leave the woman hanging everytime when the road gets rough...a STRONG GUY, how-ever, will be there to see whatever it is to the end, and respect will follow, and never does he have to act like a jerk. He's a man's man, and a gentle ladie's man as well.

"tough guys" run from STRONG GUYS. unless they have a way to shoot them in the back......but if they do that,,, STRONG GUYS have friends......

so..........................be a strong guy.shades :thumbsup:



Most excellent point of view,
never thought of it like that. you got my attention with that one.
Im in debtdrinker

darkowl1's photo
Sat 08/01/09 01:07 AM
i'm humbled, thanks!drinker

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Sat 08/01/09 01:21 AM
Well, I guess I do have to say I'm glad I'm blind because then I don't have to judge people for what they look like. I can only judge them for how they treat me and how they treat others. I don't believe in judging by looks, just by personality. I asked myself when I was younger, if I were sighted, would I judge by looks, and it's hard to say. I did grow up having some sight, but never enough to judge someone, so I just don't agree in judging by looks, but since we live in a sighted world that's just how it's going to be which is sad in my oppinion. Anyway, it's just hard to find nice people to talk with and someone who would respect you in the first place anyway. Either people are afraid to approach you and talk and get to know you, or their just jerks and don't give you the time of day. I'm not talking men, women to sometimes. Not in a dating sense either, since I'm not dating women lol. But anyway, I just wanted to get my point out there. I'm willing to talk to anyone, as long as their nice to me and as long as we can share things and have a nice conversation and see if we have anything in common and go from there. So I guess that's what I have to say on the topic.

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Sat 08/01/09 01:28 AM

Well, I guess I do have to say I'm glad I'm blind because then I don't have to judge people for what they look like. I can only judge them for how they treat me and how they treat others. I don't believe in judging by looks, just by personality. I asked myself when I was younger, if I were sighted, would I judge by looks, and it's hard to say. I did grow up having some sight, but never enough to judge someone, so I just don't agree in judging by looks, but since we live in a sighted world that's just how it's going to be which is sad in my oppinion. Anyway, it's just hard to find nice people to talk with and someone who would respect you in the first place anyway. Either people are afraid to approach you and talk and get to know you, or their just jerks and don't give you the time of day. I'm not talking men, women to sometimes. Not in a dating sense either, since I'm not dating women lol. But anyway, I just wanted to get my point out there. I'm willing to talk to anyone, as long as their nice to me and as long as we can share things and have a nice conversation and see if we have anything in common and go from there. So I guess that's what I have to say on the topic.


flowerforyou

John1932's photo
Sat 08/01/09 01:35 AM

Well, I guess I do have to say I'm glad I'm blind because then I don't have to judge people for what they look like. I can only judge them for how they treat me and how they treat others. I don't believe in judging by looks, just by personality. I asked myself when I was younger, if I were sighted, would I judge by looks, and it's hard to say. I did grow up having some sight, but never enough to judge someone, so I just don't agree in judging by looks, but since we live in a sighted world that's just how it's going to be which is sad in my oppinion. Anyway, it's just hard to find nice people to talk with and someone who would respect you in the first place anyway. Either people are afraid to approach you and talk and get to know you, or their just jerks and don't give you the time of day. I'm not talking men, women to sometimes. Not in a dating sense either, since I'm not dating women lol. But anyway, I just wanted to get my point out there. I'm willing to talk to anyone, as long as their nice to me and as long as we can share things and have a nice conversation and see if we have anything in common and go from there. So I guess that's what I have to say on the topic.

That is amazing, you inspire me.

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Sat 08/01/09 01:48 AM
lol I inspire you because I'm blind? I've never gotten that before. Well ok I lied, I have. Some people just see me walk around with my dog and they're afraid I'll fall off a step or something and my dog stops, then I stop, and then I praise my dog, and we go on our way. Or some people say I have a positive outlook on life, which isn't always the case, but I try to enjoy my life day to day. now I just need someone to enjoy it with lol. But thanks for the kind words. And I'm glad that I inspire you. Just wish more people could look on the inside and not the outside.laugh

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