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Topic: Hawaii and Obama's Birth Certificate
Winx's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:03 PM
Hawaii AGAIN declares Obama birth certificate real.

By JAYMES SONG, Associated Press Writer Jaymes Song, Associated Press Writer – Tue Jul 28, 1:54 am ET

HONOLULU – State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.

They hoped to stem a recent surge in the number of inquiries about Obama's birthplace.

"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

So-called "birthers" — who claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States — have grown more vocal recently on blogs and television news shows.

Fukino issued a similar press release Oct. 31, but was prompted to speak out again because of the renewed attention on Obama's beginnings. Hawaii's Health Department has been flooded in recent weeks with questions from individuals and several national TV news networks asking for proof that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

"They just keep asking over and over and over again," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

The Constitution states that a person must be a "natural-born citizen" to be eligible for the presidency. Birthers contend that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, and many say he was actually born in Kenya, his father's homeland. They've challenged his citizenship in court.

One widely circulated YouTube clip of a town hall meeting showed a Republican congressman getting booed for saying Obama is a citizen. Talk show host Rush Limbaugh and CNN's Lou Dobbs have also raised the issue, and 10 Republican members of Congress co-sponsored a bill that would require future presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate.

However, it appears Congress has moved on and has accepted Obama's island birthplace. The U.S. House on Monday unanimously approved a resolution recognizing and celebrating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii becoming the 50th state. A clause was included that reads: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961."

State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

However, Obama's birth certificate along with birth notices from the two Honolulu newspapers were brought forward even before he took office. But that's done nothing to shake the belief by many Obama critics that the president was born abroad.


Winx's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:08 PM
Edited by Winx on Tue 07/28/09 12:25 PM
I think it's sad that there's a need to bring it up again.







earthytaurus76's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:11 PM
Contrived.

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:11 PM
Seems to me this has come up and is taken care of and just keeps coming up again and again... My mom, a long standing member of the GOP, keeps bringing it up to me too.

warmachine's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:14 PM
I warned everyone this was coming up again.

I still find it interesting that when Jerome Corsi went to Kenya to prove it one way or another and show other links between Obama and Kenya's government, and was arrested for it.


Atlantis75's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:25 PM
The differences between birth certificates. Both are from the 60s.

Here is one , from an anynomous person:

http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg


Here is Obamas:

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/obama-birth-certificate1.jpg

Winx's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:28 PM
Edited by Winx on Tue 07/28/09 12:28 PM

The differences between birth certificates. Both are from the 60s.

Here is one , from an anynomous person:

http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg


Here is Obamas:

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/obama-birth-certificate1.jpg


The first one is from an Army hospital. I don't know if that would change things. The second one looks like my child's birth certificate.



beachbum069's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:30 PM
Edited by beachbum069 on Tue 07/28/09 12:30 PM

The differences between birth certificates. Both are from the 60s.

Here is one , from an anynomous person:

http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg


Here is Obamas:

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/obama-birth-certificate1.jpg

The 2nd one isn't from the 60's it's dated on the bottom. Try againrofl

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:34 PM
I believe if someone needs a duplicate birth certificate (maybe if they lost it) the computer generates one that looks different. my duplicate doesn't look like the original did. that may be the case. ohwell

Winx's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:35 PM


The differences between birth certificates. Both are from the 60s.

Here is one , from an anynomous person:

http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg


Here is Obamas:

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/obama-birth-certificate1.jpg

The 2nd one isn't from the 60's it's dated on the bottom. Try againrofl


Date filed by Registrar: August 8, 1961.

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:37 PM

I believe if someone needs a duplicate birth certificate (maybe if they lost it) the computer generates one that looks different. my duplicate doesn't look like the original did. that may be the case. ohwell


that can't be right, because that makes sense

my duplicate looks nothing at all like my original birth certificate

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:38 PM
Edited by franshade on Tue 07/28/09 12:41 PM



The differences between birth certificates. Both are from the 60s.

Here is one , from an anynomous person:

http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg


Here is Obamas:

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/obama-birth-certificate1.jpg

The 2nd one isn't from the 60's it's dated on the bottom. Try againrofl


Date filed by Registrar: August 8, 1961.


but if you also look closer it appears to have been stamped in 2007 so it may be a copy/duplicate

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:39 PM


I believe if someone needs a duplicate birth certificate (maybe if they lost it) the computer generates one that looks different. my duplicate doesn't look like the original did. that may be the case. ohwell


that can't be right, because that makes sense

my duplicate looks nothing at all like my original birth certificate


dang...I said something that makes sense and I'm still wrong?!?!?!?!? laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:41 PM
The nonpartisan FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, examined, handled and photographed the original certificate in an effort to put the controversy to rest.

"We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the USA, just as he has always said."

FactCheck.org also pointed out that Obama's American mother and Kenyan father placed an advertisement in a local Honolulu newspaper on August 13, 1961, announcing their son's birth.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090728/od_nm/us_birth_odd

just a thought...maybe

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:43 PM
again that makes a lot of sense, so it too must not be right

:wink:


no photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:44 PM

The differences between birth certificates. Both are from the 60s.

Here is one , from an anynomous person:

http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg


Here is Obamas:

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/obama-birth-certificate1.jpg


Don't see the problem, one is the long form the other the short form.. Your point would be? Just curious.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:44 PM
ok....then THIS must be right because it makes no sense. I (me, myself and I) forged the birth certificate just to start a commotion. oh wait....knowing me...that does make sense laugh

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:45 PM



note ohsm 1.1 (rev. 11/01) laser in lower left corner

and in center it says it is a copy

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:46 PM

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:48 PM
Edited by franshade on Tue 07/28/09 12:49 PM


note ohsm 1.1 (rev. 11/01) laser in lower left corner

and in center it says it is a copy

still see nothing wrong with that - that form was revised on 11/01 - see stamped date - 2007 on back (blue ink)

copy serves as evidence

still see nothing wrong w/that




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