Topic: Hawaii and Obama's Birth Certificate
adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:18 PM





:smile: Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.:smile:And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.:smile:Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago?laugh


actually no the law changed

in 61 both parents had to be u s citizens if born out of the u s to have automatic citizenship

that is what all the hoopla is about
laugh I love itlaugh


:smile: And I doubt thats true about requiring both parent being an American since it has always been the case that a child automatically has citizenship in whatever countries his parents have citizenship in.:smile: Its been common law for centuries.:smile: But I dont want to argue about it.drinker


bigsmile Okay, what about the Hawaii newspapers?bigsmile


i did not say whether i thought it was fake or not mirror

i am beginning to think you just like to debate w/me

drinker

laugh laugh


drinker You always respond to me and you are polite about it and dont get maddrinker I would rather debate you than some of the others on herebigsmile


drinker drinker smokin

no photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:19 PM



i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all


pitchfork pitchfork


Why should it have to be settled again?
flowerforyou It doesnt.laugh Its just the birthers way of keeping the fantasy going.:smile: Nothing that gets produced would change their minds.:smile:That is why I love it.:heart:


Seriously. If more "proof" were provided, I'm sure there are many that still would not be satisfied.

Winx's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:20 PM



note ohsm 1.1 (rev. 11/01) laser in lower left corner

and in center it says it is a copy

still see nothing wrong with that - that form was revised on 11/01 - see stamped date - 2007 on back (blue ink)

copy serves as evidence

still see nothing wrong w/that



If that means that he wasn't born here, then I wasn't born here either.

I think that they put that on there every time someone requests a copy of it.

Winx's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:21 PM

bigsmile I love this birther conspiracy theory.bigsmileIt cracks me uplaugh


I don't get it.laugh

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:23 PM
People have already decided that they are/aren't going to accept what is provided - as to his birth place.

Does anyone realize that maybe the original (first/actual) birth certificate no longer exists? shhh I washed my original birth certificate by accident.

Does anyone realize that as forms get updated and revised they change format? Not information.I ordered a new/duplicate copy and guess what it looked nothing like the original but had same info.


Winx's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:24 PM

People have already decided that they are/aren't going to accept what is provided - as to his birth place.

Does anyone realize that maybe the original (first/actual) birth certificate no longer exists? shhh I washed my original birth certificate by accident.

Does anyone realize that as forms get updated and revised they change format? Not information.I ordered a new/duplicate copy and guess what it looked nothing like the original but had same info.




It happened to me when I needed a copy for my driver's license.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:25 PM




i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all


pitchfork pitchfork


Why should it have to be settled again?
flowerforyou It doesnt.laugh Its just the birthers way of keeping the fantasy going.:smile: Nothing that gets produced would change their minds.:smile:That is why I love it.:heart:


Seriously. If more "proof" were provided, I'm sure there are many that still would not be satisfied.



:smile: They will always sieze onto some little detail to dispute his citizenship.:smile: Even if somehow it was TOTALLY indisputably proven that he is an American citizen they would just make something up.:smile:

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:25 PM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 07/28/09 01:25 PM



i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all


pitchfork pitchfork


Why should it have to be settled again?
flowerforyou It doesnt.laugh Its just the birthers way of keeping the fantasy going.:smile: Nothing that gets produced would change their minds.:smile:That is why I love it.:heart:


so funny

it is DISTRACTION from the real issues

but hey...........

no photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:25 PM

People have already decided that they are/aren't going to accept what is provided - as to his birth place.

Does anyone realize that maybe the original (first/actual) birth certificate no longer exists? shhh I washed my original birth certificate by accident.

Does anyone realize that as forms get updated and revised they change format? Not information.I ordered a new/duplicate copy and guess what it looked nothing like the original but had same info.




It doesn't matter what is provided. Those who won't accept it won't accept anything else, either.

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:25 PM
you had to see how many hoops I had to jump through to get a copy of my own birth certificate, as I was not born in the US.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:27 PM


bigsmile I love this birther conspiracy theory.bigsmileIt cracks me uplaugh


I don't get it.laugh


bigsmile I like it because it makes me laugh.bigsmile Basically these people are trying to say that Obama was planned from birth to be elected president for some nefarious plot to bring down America.bigsmile

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:27 PM

you had to see how many hoops I had to jump through to get a copy of my own birth certificate, as I was not born in the US.


dang and i was gonna suggest you run for prez


frustrated frustrated frustrated sad sad sad sad

no photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:28 PM




i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all


pitchfork pitchfork


Why should it have to be settled again?
flowerforyou It doesnt.laugh Its just the birthers way of keeping the fantasy going.:smile: Nothing that gets produced would change their minds.:smile:That is why I love it.:heart:


so funny

it is DISTRACTION from the real issues

but hey...........



Didn't you say that on the previous page already?

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:29 PM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 07/28/09 01:30 PM





i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all


pitchfork pitchfork


Why should it have to be settled again?
flowerforyou It doesnt.laugh Its just the birthers way of keeping the fantasy going.:smile: Nothing that gets produced would change their minds.:smile:That is why I love it.:heart:


so funny

it is DISTRACTION from the real issues

but hey...........



Didn't you say that on the previous page already?


yep

and now it was said 4 times

thx

:wink:

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:30 PM


you had to see how many hoops I had to jump through to get a copy of my own birth certificate, as I was not born in the US.


dang and i was gonna suggest you run for prez

frustrated frustrated frustrated sad sad sad sad


I can run for Pres... :banana: :banana:

Born in Puerto Rico, making me at birth an American citizen and able to run for President - tongue2 tongue2

new I'd catch at least one person :banana:

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:31 PM


Didn't you say that on the previous page already?


yep

and now it was said 4 times

thx

:wink:

rofl he likes to be acknowledged rofl

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:33 PM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 07/28/09 01:34 PM



you had to see how many hoops I had to jump through to get a copy of my own birth certificate, as I was not born in the US.


dang and i was gonna suggest you run for prez

frustrated frustrated frustrated sad sad sad sad


I can run for Pres... :banana: :banana:

Born in Puerto Rico, making me at birth an American citizen and able to run for President - tongue2 tongue2

new I'd catch at least one person :banana:


then your statement was false as puerto rico is a part of the united states

falsehoods catch those that state them usually :wink:
flowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:36 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 07/28/09 01:40 PM
laugh I seen on another site these people saying that Obamas real name is Barry Soweao (or something like that) and he is a secret Muslim agent trained from birth laugh He has been trained from birth to win president and destroy America from withinlaugh I havent even read anything that crazy in a movie or a booklaugh

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:37 PM




you had to see how many hoops I had to jump through to get a copy of my own birth certificate, as I was not born in the US.


dang and i was gonna suggest you run for prez

frustrated frustrated frustrated sad sad sad sad


I can run for Pres... :banana: :banana:

Born in Puerto Rico, making me at birth an American citizen and able to run for President - tongue2 tongue2

new I'd catch at least one person :banana:


then your statement was false as puetrico is a part of the united states

falsehoods catch those that state them usually :wink:
flowerforyou


wrong again - not a false statement - I was not born in the US

you read what you wanted to tongue2

I was born in a city near San Juan in Puerto Rico :banana:


Atlantis75's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:40 PM
Obama will be stigmatized by this birth-certificate issue for the rest of his life.