Topic: Hawaii and Obama's Birth Certificate
adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:53 PM
i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all


pitchfork pitchfork

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:57 PM
i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all

dont see a need - "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding"

but borrowing your own line, what do I know flowers

no photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:59 PM
Photoshop springs 2 mindlaugh but then wot do i knowlaugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/28/09 12:59 PM
:smile: Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.:smile:And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.:smile:Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago?laugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:01 PM
bigsmile I love this birther conspiracy theory.bigsmileIt cracks me uplaugh

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:02 PM

i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all

dont see a need - "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding"

but borrowing your own line, what do I know flowers


did i say need

why is it everyone reads what is not there frustrated frustrated frustrated

i said



it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all



and if they did it would be done

until then there will always be doubt

it is not like they do not have it some where

or do they (insert evil laugh here)


smokin

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:02 PM
http://hubpages.com/hub/Barack-Obama--The-Birth-Certificate-Controversy

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:04 PM

:smile: Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.:smile:And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.:smile:Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago?laugh


actually no the law changed

in 61 both parents had to be u s citizens if born out of the u s to have automatic citizenship

that is what all the hoopla is about

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:04 PM

dont see a need - "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding"

but borrowing your own line, what do I know flowers


did i say need

why is it everyone reads what is not there frustrated frustrated frustrated

i said ...

relax you're going to have a heart attack - I said, I dont see a need

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:06 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 07/28/09 01:11 PM


:smile: Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.:smile:And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.:smile:Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago?laugh


actually no the law changed

in 61 both parents had to be u s citizens if born out of the u s to have automatic citizenship

that is what all the hoopla is about
laugh I love itlaugh


:smile: And I doubt thats true about requiring both parent being an American since it has always been the case that a child automatically has citizenship in whatever countries his parents have citizenship in.:smile: Its been common law for centuries.:smile: But I dont want to argue about it.drinker


bigsmile Okay, what about the Hawaii newspapers?bigsmile

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:07 PM
Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States *
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:12 PM


dont see a need - "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding"

but borrowing your own line, what do I know flowers


did i say need

why is it everyone reads what is not there frustrated frustrated frustrated

i said ...

relax you're going to have a heart attack - I said, I dont see a need



i'm comin martha i'm comin

as clasping chest in best sanford (red foxx) voice

flowerforyou

no photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:12 PM

i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all


pitchfork pitchfork


Why should it have to be settled again?

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:12 PM
happy What about the Hawaii newspapers of the time telling about the birth of Obama?happy

franshade's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:13 PM



dont see a need - "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding"

but borrowing your own line, what do I know flowers


did i say need

why is it everyone reads what is not there frustrated frustrated frustrated

i said ...

relax you're going to have a heart attack - I said, I dont see a need



i'm comin martha i'm comin

as clasping chest in best sanford (red foxx) voice

flowerforyou


rofl rofl that's what I kept seeing when I posted this response... rofl


adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:14 PM



:smile: Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.:smile:And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.:smile:Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago?laugh


actually no the law changed

in 61 both parents had to be u s citizens if born out of the u s to have automatic citizenship

that is what all the hoopla is about
laugh I love itlaugh


:smile: And I doubt thats true about requiring both parent being an American since it has always been the case that a child automatically has citizenship in whatever countries his parents have citizenship in.:smile: Its been common law for centuries.:smile: But I dont want to argue about it.drinker


bigsmile Okay, what about the Hawaii newspapers?bigsmile


i did not say whether i thought it was fake or not mirror

i am beginning to think you just like to debate w/me

drinker

laugh laugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:14 PM


i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all


pitchfork pitchfork


Why should it have to be settled again?
flowerforyou It doesnt.laugh Its just the birthers way of keeping the fantasy going.:smile: Nothing that gets produced would change their minds.:smile:That is why I love it.:heart:

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:15 PM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 07/28/09 01:17 PM



i'm comin martha i'm comin

as clasping chest in best sanford (red foxx) voice

flowerforyou


rofl rofl that's what I kept seeing when I posted this response... rofl





gmta

flowers flowers

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:15 PM




:smile: Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.:smile:And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.:smile:Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago?laugh


actually no the law changed

in 61 both parents had to be u s citizens if born out of the u s to have automatic citizenship

that is what all the hoopla is about
laugh I love itlaugh


:smile: And I doubt thats true about requiring both parent being an American since it has always been the case that a child automatically has citizenship in whatever countries his parents have citizenship in.:smile: Its been common law for centuries.:smile: But I dont want to argue about it.drinker


bigsmile Okay, what about the Hawaii newspapers?bigsmile


i did not say whether i thought it was fake or not mirror

i am beginning to think you just like to debate w/me

drinker

laugh laugh


drinker You always respond to me and you are polite about it and dont get maddrinker I would rather debate you than some of the others on herebigsmile

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/28/09 01:16 PM



i never said there was any thing wrong with it

newer tecnology makes a newer format

they are not on microfilm any more

it would be nice if they could produce the
origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all


pitchfork pitchfork


Why should it have to be settled again?
flowerforyou It doesnt.laugh Its just the birthers way of keeping the fantasy going.:smile: Nothing that gets produced would change their minds.:smile:That is why I love it.:heart:


so funny

it is DISTRACTION from the real issues

but hey...........