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i never said there was any thing wrong with it
newer tecnology makes a newer format they are not on microfilm any more it would be nice if they could produce the origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all |
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i never said there was any thing wrong with it
dont see a need - "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding"
newer tecnology makes a newer format they are not on microfilm any more it would be nice if they could produce the origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all but borrowing your own line, what do I know |
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Photoshop springs 2 mind but then wot do i know
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Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago?
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I love this birther conspiracy theory.It cracks me up
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i never said there was any thing wrong with it
dont see a need - "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding"
newer tecnology makes a newer format they are not on microfilm any more it would be nice if they could produce the origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all but borrowing your own line, what do I know did i say need why is it everyone reads what is not there i said it would be nice if they could produce the origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all and if they did it would be done until then there will always be doubt it is not like they do not have it some where or do they (insert evil laugh here) |
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Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago? actually no the law changed in 61 both parents had to be u s citizens if born out of the u s to have automatic citizenship that is what all the hoopla is about |
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dont see a need - "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" but borrowing your own line, what do I know did i say need why is it everyone reads what is not there i said ... |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Tue 07/28/09 01:11 PM
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Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago? actually no the law changed in 61 both parents had to be u s citizens if born out of the u s to have automatic citizenship that is what all the hoopla is about And I doubt thats true about requiring both parent being an American since it has always been the case that a child automatically has citizenship in whatever countries his parents have citizenship in. Its been common law for centuries. But I dont want to argue about it. Okay, what about the Hawaii newspapers? |
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Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:" * Anyone born inside the United States * * Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe * Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S. * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national * Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year * Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21 * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time) * A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S. * There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision. http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html |
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dont see a need - "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" but borrowing your own line, what do I know did i say need why is it everyone reads what is not there i said ... i'm comin martha i'm comin as clasping chest in best sanford (red foxx) voice |
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i never said there was any thing wrong with it newer tecnology makes a newer format they are not on microfilm any more it would be nice if they could produce the origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all Why should it have to be settled again? |
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What about the Hawaii newspapers of the time telling about the birth of Obama?
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dont see a need - "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" but borrowing your own line, what do I know did i say need why is it everyone reads what is not there i said ... i'm comin martha i'm comin as clasping chest in best sanford (red foxx) voice that's what I kept seeing when I posted this response... |
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Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago? actually no the law changed in 61 both parents had to be u s citizens if born out of the u s to have automatic citizenship that is what all the hoopla is about And I doubt thats true about requiring both parent being an American since it has always been the case that a child automatically has citizenship in whatever countries his parents have citizenship in. Its been common law for centuries. But I dont want to argue about it. Okay, what about the Hawaii newspapers? i did not say whether i thought it was fake or not mirror i am beginning to think you just like to debate w/me |
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i never said there was any thing wrong with it newer tecnology makes a newer format they are not on microfilm any more it would be nice if they could produce the origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all Why should it have to be settled again? |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Tue 07/28/09 01:17 PM
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i'm comin martha i'm comin as clasping chest in best sanford (red foxx) voice that's what I kept seeing when I posted this response... gmta |
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Obamas birth is printed in the Hawaii newspapers at the time.And he would be an American citizen even if he was born in another country,since his mom was American.Are people trying to say that his family planned for him to run for president over 50 years ago? actually no the law changed in 61 both parents had to be u s citizens if born out of the u s to have automatic citizenship that is what all the hoopla is about And I doubt thats true about requiring both parent being an American since it has always been the case that a child automatically has citizenship in whatever countries his parents have citizenship in. Its been common law for centuries. But I dont want to argue about it. Okay, what about the Hawaii newspapers? i did not say whether i thought it was fake or not mirror i am beginning to think you just like to debate w/me You always respond to me and you are polite about it and dont get mad I would rather debate you than some of the others on here |
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i never said there was any thing wrong with it newer tecnology makes a newer format they are not on microfilm any more it would be nice if they could produce the origenal micro film with his in the proper place in sequence of recorded births tho and settle this once and for all Why should it have to be settled again? so funny it is DISTRACTION from the real issues but hey........... |
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