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Topic: Buffalo, NY
MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 07/25/09 09:27 PM


After reading a few articles on this subject I saw how the Bushies were going to get around the ban on using the military to make rhe arrests. The law prohibiting the use of military force on US soil states no military forces may be used on US soil for law enforcement purposes. What the Bushies were going to do was declare the alledged terrorist cell enemy combatants, therefore relieving the military of "law enforvement" duties. It was just a matter of giving the bad guys a designation as enemy forces and in that case they could have sent the military to arrest the terrorists without fear of repercussions. Apparently Bush must have forgotten that the FBI exists and that is their jurisdiction. I am surprised he didnt send them in anyway. The man and his cronies have trampled all over the Constitution and left it lying in the road. If I was his father I would send someone to DC to collect Dubya and bring him to the ranch for a good ol Texas ***-kicking


The Bushes?

It never happened. You people sound like this memo from 2002 really happened. Of course all avenues were considered. Many others were also, I bet. But a soundbite from 7 years ago is relevant now. We haven't been attacked either. What if we were getting suicide bombers etc...now. Some people would be blaming "The Bushes" for not acting in Buffalo...jmo
:smile: The FBI got the terrorists in Buffalo the lawful way.:smile:That is what the FBI is forsmile2



scared If Cheney had his way this country would be looking like Iraq right nowscared

Winx's photo
Sat 07/25/09 09:28 PM
[Report: Bush mulled sending troops into Buffalo]

* Report: Bush mulled sending troops into Buffalo AP via Yahoo! News - 8 hours ago
* Bush considered sending troops into Buffalo suburb Chicago Tribune - 3 hours ago
* Paper: Bush considered sending troops into Buffalo New London Day - 6 hours ago

DDejon's photo
Sat 07/25/09 09:40 PM
Keep on telling the truth, and thank you for posting a topic that we all need to know about.

Winx's photo
Sat 07/25/09 09:42 PM

Keep on telling the truth, and thank you for posting a topic that we all need to know about.


Thank you.flowerforyou

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Sat 07/25/09 09:44 PM
Newsflash: Bush and Cheney are out...keep your eye on the ball people. The Professor, Buffalo, etc...are taking us off the big picture of Health Care. It is another BIG bill getting fast tracked through. Same as the last 2 stimulus bills. jmo

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Sat 07/25/09 09:44 PM


Canada, U.S. agree to use each other’s troops in civil emergencies

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other’s borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.


http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=403d90d6-7a61-41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d&k=14984
:smile: I knew about that months ago.:smile: Not sure the canadians have the manpower to control a large part of the US though:smile: And I dont think we have the manpower to control large parts of their country either:smile:

Point well taken...

I would hope that it is so they may assist each other in the case of a major attack.

I would expect our friends to help us. I would expect our government to help our friends.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 07/25/09 09:53 PM

Newsflash: Bush and Cheney are out...keep your eye on the ball people. The Professor, Buffalo, etc...are taking us off the big picture of Health Care. It is another BIG bill getting fast tracked through. Same as the last 2 stimulus bills. jmo
:smile: The reason this is a discussion is that it was kept secret by the Bushies and the memos have just came out.:smile:The American people need to know how far the Bushies went to rape the Constitution so we will never repeat it again.:smile:

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 07/25/09 09:55 PM



Canada, U.S. agree to use each other’s troops in civil emergencies

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other’s borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.


http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=403d90d6-7a61-41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d&k=14984
:smile: I knew about that months ago.:smile: Not sure the canadians have the manpower to control a large part of the US though:smile: And I dont think we have the manpower to control large parts of their country either:smile:

Point well taken...

I would hope that it is so they may assist each other in the case of a major attack.

I would expect our friends to help us. I would expect our government to help our friends.
:smile: You make a good point, but I think most Americans would be reluctant to have a foreign military operating on our soil.:smile:

Winx's photo
Sat 07/25/09 09:58 PM

Newsflash: Bush and Cheney are out...keep your eye on the ball people. The Professor, Buffalo, etc...are taking us off the big picture of Health Care. It is another BIG bill getting fast tracked through. Same as the last 2 stimulus bills. jmo


Congress is going on break soon. The health care bill will probably not be passed before then.

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Sat 07/25/09 10:04 PM


Newsflash: Bush and Cheney are out...keep your eye on the ball people. The Professor, Buffalo, etc...are taking us off the big picture of Health Care. It is another BIG bill getting fast tracked through. Same as the last 2 stimulus bills. jmo
:smile: The reason this is a discussion is that it was kept secret by the Bushies and the memos have just came out.:smile:The American people need to know how far the Bushies went to rape the Constitution so we will never repeat it again.:smile:

Woah...

Someone put forth an idea... It went through channels...

Bush did what a president SHOULD do when presented with a proposal.

He evaluated it...

Saw it for the piece of crap it was....

and dumed it... As he should have.

VETO...

Next.

Why lable it a 'Bushie' proposal.

Bet ya Obams has done the same thing already a few times... Government being what it is now days.

However you won't know bout those things that Obama had to consider till he's left office.

Hope he does some clear thinking and vetos this health crap till we can ACTUALLY do it.

I'm actually getting to the point where I think hes doing a Presidential job.

He has impressed me so far.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 07/25/09 10:22 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 07/25/09 10:23 PM



Newsflash: Bush and Cheney are out...keep your eye on the ball people. The Professor, Buffalo, etc...are taking us off the big picture of Health Care. It is another BIG bill getting fast tracked through. Same as the last 2 stimulus bills. jmo
:smile: The reason this is a discussion is that it was kept secret by the Bushies and the memos have just came out.:smile:The American people need to know how far the Bushies went to rape the Constitution so we will never repeat it again.:smile:

Woah...

Someone put forth an idea... It went through channels...

Bush did what a president SHOULD do when presented with a proposal.

He evaluated it...

Saw it for the piece of crap it was....

and dumed it... As he should have.

VETO...

Next.

Why lable it a 'Bushie' proposal.

Bet ya Obams has done the same thing already a few times... Government being what it is now days.

However you won't know bout those things that Obama had to consider till he's left office.

Hope he does some clear thinking and vetos this health crap till we can ACTUALLY do it.

I'm actually getting to the point where I think hes doing a Presidential job.

He has impressed me so far.




drinks Man,I am so happy that this country survived the 8 years of Darkness that I am still reluctant to critisize what we got now.:smile: Anybody is better than the Bush and his crew as far as I was concerned.:smile:I would be the same way if Mccain had won:smile: I thought we were all going to get nuked before Bush and his gang got out of there.:smile: I dont want to look a gift horse in the mouth.drinker

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Sun 07/26/09 11:48 AM



Canada, U.S. agree to use each other’s troops in civil emergencies

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other’s borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.


http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=403d90d6-7a61-41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d&k=14984
:smile: I knew about that months ago.:smile: Not sure the canadians have the manpower to control a large part of the US though:smile: And I dont think we have the manpower to control large parts of their country either:smile:

Point well taken...

I would hope that it is so they may assist each other in the case of a major attack.

I would expect our friends to help us. I would expect our government to help our friends.


guess again

http://www.documentaries.ws/1/print.php?news.761

""""""....The Canadian military’s agreement with NORTHCOM may allow them into the State under the President’s authority in the NDAA to “suppress in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination or conspiracy, if it so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State.” Clearly this portion of the NDAA is intended to authorize the use of the U.S. military for law enforcement within a State, under the President’s discretion, and allows the Canadian military to also be used upon request from NORTHCOM under the CAP.

There is no mention in the NDAA of a State governor’s input in the determination to use U.S. troops within his/her State. Instead, those measures are left solely to the U.S. President alone. The language, “or any other means,” in the law seems to imply the use of foreign troops in addition to, or in lieu of, U.S. troops to enforce the laws of the State and the United States in the event the state’s constituted authorities are either unable, or refuse to provide said enforcement..........

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...Libby admits the foreign military would not be bound by oath of allegiance to the United States, or its Constitution while assisting State authorities in-country. “There is no expectation that would occur,” said Libby. “Our troops go into other countries to provide assistance and don’t swear an oath of loyalty to their government or constitutions.”.........


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interesting stuff in that article

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 07/26/09 11:49 AM

do you think either govt really cares what the people think


nooooo

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 07/26/09 08:11 PM




Canada, U.S. agree to use each other’s troops in civil emergencies

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other’s borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.


http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=403d90d6-7a61-41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d&k=14984
:smile: I knew about that months ago.:smile: Not sure the canadians have the manpower to control a large part of the US though:smile: And I dont think we have the manpower to control large parts of their country either:smile:

Point well taken...

I would hope that it is so they may assist each other in the case of a major attack.

I would expect our friends to help us. I would expect our government to help our friends.


guess again

http://www.documentaries.ws/1/print.php?news.761

""""""....The Canadian military’s agreement with NORTHCOM may allow them into the State under the President’s authority in the NDAA to “suppress in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination or conspiracy, if it so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State.” Clearly this portion of the NDAA is intended to authorize the use of the U.S. military for law enforcement within a State, under the President’s discretion, and allows the Canadian military to also be used upon request from NORTHCOM under the CAP.

There is no mention in the NDAA of a State governor’s input in the determination to use U.S. troops within his/her State. Instead, those measures are left solely to the U.S. President alone. The language, “or any other means,” in the law seems to imply the use of foreign troops in addition to, or in lieu of, U.S. troops to enforce the laws of the State and the United States in the event the state’s constituted authorities are either unable, or refuse to provide said enforcement..........

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...Libby admits the foreign military would not be bound by oath of allegiance to the United States, or its Constitution while assisting State authorities in-country. “There is no expectation that would occur,” said Libby. “Our troops go into other countries to provide assistance and don’t swear an oath of loyalty to their government or constitutions.”.........


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interesting stuff in that article

Bush said NO to this proposal.

This is a political game. Lets shed some light on facts and be real.

bigsmile

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