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Man takes phone call complaint a little too far
Tom BarlowTom Barlow RSS Feed Jul 21st 2009 at 4:00PM .................. ........Apparently dissatisfied with the company's response, he called back. Finally, the company called him to resolve the issue, but the discussion between Papenfus and the service rep quickly went sour. After the service rep called Papenfus a jackass (or something similar, but profane), he responded with the threats that landed him in jail. While the victim company was not listed in the police report, StLouistoday.com did some detective work and found that the only business that resided at the listed address is Service Protection Direct, a front for TXEN Partners Service Protection Direct was successfully sued in 2008 by the Missouri Attorney General for its business practices, and the Better Business Bureau has criticized its marketing materials. ...................... http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/07/21/man-takes-phone-call-complaint-a-little-too-far/?icid=main|main|dl5|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.walletpop.com%2Fblog%2F2009%2F07%2F21%2Fman-takes-phone-call-complaint-a-little-too-far%2F head line used on aol front page Man Arrested for 'Terrorist Threat' Charged After Fight With Telemarketer storey 5 of 7 http://www.aol.com/ ===================================================================== enter the patriot act how many said it would not be abused this is going to get worse before it gets better if it gets better |
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St. Louis here.
 "According to court documents, Charles W. Papenfus, 43, allegedly told a sales representative during a May 18 telephone call that he would burn down the building and kill the employees and their families. He was indicted for making a terrorist threat, a Class D felony; and he could be sentenced to up to four years in prison if convicted." ______ His wife is saying, "he hadn't quite been himself after taking prescription painkiller medication for a compound wrist fracture he received in a motorcycle accident a few days before the call occurred. Irritability can be one side effect from those drugs, Forsyth said." http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/D14DE98D380D1B73862575FA0008F3A8?OpenDocument |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Wed 07/22/09 09:15 AM
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i do not think it was a terrorist act
the company has been convicted of bad business practices and the company representative called the man a profane name per the article this is a blatant misuse of the patriot act if i recall correctly there were a few here when they brought up how the patriot act would be used they were attacted and called unpatriotic (among other things) and told the govt would never abuse it well remember this we will never give a ticket or stop anyone for just a seat belt violation now it is CLICK IT OR TICKET hey winx hbb2u  |
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Yes, the terrorist act charge is extreme for this case. But...he should have consequences for his actions, IMO. It's "not cool" to threaten to burn down a building and kill the employees and their families, ya know?
The "click it or ticket" doesn't bother me. I always click it anyway. Hey, Adj4u.  |
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what is the definition of a terrorist threat?
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Yes, the terrorist act charge is extreme for this case. But...he should have consequences for his actions, IMO. It's "not cool" to threaten to burn down a building and kill the employees and their families, ya know? The "click it or ticket" doesn't bother me. I always click it anyway. Hey, Adj4u. the point is the deceptive practices used to get it passed it if that is ok then bush no one should be singled out for deceit (not even bush) did you click it before the law just a thought |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Wed 07/22/09 09:27 AM
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what is the definition of a terrorist threat? google it  and watch 12 angry men (the original one) |
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what is the definition of a terrorist threat? google it why then you wouldn't be able to say you told me so  |
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pay me no mind i am just a paranoid over thinker |
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Yes, the terrorist act charge is extreme for this case. But...he should have consequences for his actions, IMO. It's "not cool" to threaten to burn down a building and kill the employees and their families, ya know? The "click it or ticket" doesn't bother me. I always click it anyway. Hey, Adj4u. the point is the deceptive practices used to get it passed it if that is ok then bush no one should be singled out for deceit (not even bush) did you click it before the law just a thought I thought that the point was about what this man did and what the charges were against him. Yep, I was clicking it many years before it became law. I think it's stupid not to do it. |
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what is the definition of a terrorist threat? Some would say that if I offered to cook for you, that could be a terrorist threat..... But I think my loose definition would be any threat that is designed to cause fear that is meant to influence others to a specific goal or cause. |
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Terroristic Threat Law & Legal Definition
A terroristic threat is a crime generally involving a threat to commit violence communicated with the intent to terrorize another, to cause evacuation of a building, or to cause serious public inconvenience, in reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. It may mean an offense against property or involving danger to another person that may include but is not limited to recklessly endangering another person, harassment, stalking, ethnic intimidation, and criminal mischief. |
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so under those definitions the caller did make a terroristic threat, right?
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Man takes phone call complaint a little too far Tom BarlowTom Barlow RSS Feed Jul 21st 2009 at 4:00PM .................. ........Apparently dissatisfied with the company's response, he called back. Finally, the company called him to resolve the issue, but the discussion between Papenfus and the service rep quickly went sour. After the service rep called Papenfus a jackass (or something similar, but profane), he responded with the threats that landed him in jail. While the victim company was not listed in the police report, StLouistoday.com did some detective work and found that the only business that resided at the listed address is Service Protection Direct, a front for TXEN Partners Service Protection Direct was successfully sued in 2008 by the Missouri Attorney General for its business practices, and the Better Business Bureau has criticized its marketing materials. ...................... http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/07/21/man-takes-phone-call-complaint-a-little-too-far/?icid=main|main|dl5|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.walletpop.com%2Fblog%2F2009%2F07%2F21%2Fman-takes-phone-call-complaint-a-little-too-far%2F head line used on aol front page Man Arrested for 'Terrorist Threat' Charged After Fight With Telemarketer storey 5 of 7 http://www.aol.com/ ===================================================================== enter the patriot act how many said it would not be abused this is going to get worse before it gets better if it gets better |
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It was illegal to make Terroristic threats before patriot act
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Yes, the terrorist act charge is extreme for this case. But...he should have consequences for his actions, IMO. It's "not cool" to threaten to burn down a building and kill the employees and their families, ya know? The "click it or ticket" doesn't bother me. I always click it anyway. Hey, Adj4u. the point is the deceptive practices used to get it passed it if that is ok then bush no one should be singled out for deceit (not even bush) did you click it before the law just a thought  uh...its always been illegal to threaten people
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please people. there is no such thing as war on terror. no there not terrorist there just pissed off. because the USA cant seem to mind there own business.and going to Iraq. only thing that done. was piss them off even more. seems that if you don't agree on USA world view they call you a terrorist.
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please people. there is no such thing as war on terror. no there not terrorist there just pissed off. because the USA cant seem to mind there own business.and going to Iraq. only thing that done. was piss them off even more. seems that if you don't agree on USA world view they call you a terrorist. If you disagree with the US and then threaten to kill (or actually kill) a whole bunch of people, they definitely call you a terrorist. Pretty sure we don't call the French terrorists, and they disagree with EVERYthing. |
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I don't see where the patriot act comes into this.
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