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Topic: 911 operator who should be fired
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Thu 07/16/09 01:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj91eeoFOBk&NR=1

tanyaann's photo
Thu 07/16/09 01:53 PM
Yet another reason why I don't plan on living in Michigan much longer!

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 07/16/09 01:55 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj91eeoFOBk&NR=1





shocked This is shockingshocked

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 07/16/09 02:03 PM
hopefully the guy will be in a **** load of trouble

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 07/16/09 02:07 PM

hopefully the guy will be in a **** load of trouble
flowerforyou i hope so 2 Roseflowerforyou

southern_bee's photo
Thu 07/16/09 02:13 PM
"not our finest our" heck im scared to see what their finest hour would be like!

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Thu 07/16/09 02:15 PM
YellowRose,

I was wondering how you might respond to this, since you often wear the 'police officer apologist' hat.

I suppose one way to stop problems like this from happening is to not use regular police officers on the 911 line - use people who are specially trained (and selected) for more positive qualities in their personality.

The thing i find really interesting, and which, in my experience, is common, is that after the cop on the line handled it poorly, he deliberately mis-lead (without out-right lying) the other police, who then treated her with presumption when she came to the station. And based on the deceptive cop's representation of events, she finds herself in cuffs, and the police think they are doing the 'right thing'.

I'm definitely not sitting in personal judgment of the individual cops - I've seen some of what they put up with, and I don't have the patience and humility for that. It wears on a person, and I'm not surprised some of them become total ******** over time. But how can we improve the system?

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Thu 07/16/09 02:18 PM

"not our finest our" heck im scared to see what their finest hour would be like!
scared Yes frighteningscared

adj4u's photo
Thu 07/16/09 02:32 PM
Edited by adj4u on Thu 07/16/09 02:33 PM
he should be givin the cleaning the bathrooms in all city buildings for at least 6 months

and every time he does it improperly he gets another week added

and he should get a 10% pay cut (at least)


and the reason he is not fired is because of his merit awards

and being the first violation

if the man dies he should be charged with voluntary manslaughter


Anonimoose's photo
Thu 07/16/09 03:28 PM
Edited by Anonimoose on Thu 07/16/09 03:40 PM


Not that it condones his behavior, but the only thing that makes any sense at all is that the sergeant must have thought she was prank-calling, which unfortunately happens far too much on 911.

adj4u's photo
Fri 07/17/09 05:38 PM
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Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 07/17/09 06:04 PM

he should be givin the cleaning the bathrooms in all city buildings for at least 6 months

and every time he does it improperly he gets another week added

and he should get a 10% pay cut (at least)


and the reason he is not fired is because of his merit awards

and being the first violation

if the man dies he should be charged with voluntary manslaughter




Was he the same guy that arrested the girl, or was that another police officer?

Either way, giving someone falses charges is a serious rights violation.

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Fri 07/17/09 06:06 PM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 07/17/09 06:26 PM



Not that it condones his behavior, but the only thing that makes any sense at all is that the sergeant must have thought she was prank-calling, which unfortunately happens far too much on 911.
With that thought I guess DCF shouldn't investigate ALL abuse claims because of a few of them are false too How do you know which are false unless you investigate?

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 07/17/09 06:07 PM
Yeah that is some s***. He won't talk to the reporters cuz he lawyer told him to keep his mouth shut.. what a d**k!grumble

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 07/17/09 06:43 PM


he should be givin the cleaning the bathrooms in all city buildings for at least 6 months

and every time he does it improperly he gets another week added

and he should get a 10% pay cut (at least)


and the reason he is not fired is because of his merit awards

and being the first violation

if the man dies he should be charged with voluntary manslaughter




Was he the same guy that arrested the girl, or was that another police officer?

Either way, giving someone falses charges is a serious rights violation.


The same guy that answered the phone is the one who arrested her when she went to the station.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 07/17/09 08:15 PM



he should be givin the cleaning the bathrooms in all city buildings for at least 6 months

and every time he does it improperly he gets another week added

and he should get a 10% pay cut (at least)


and the reason he is not fired is because of his merit awards

and being the first violation

if the man dies he should be charged with voluntary manslaughter




Was he the same guy that arrested the girl, or was that another police officer?

Either way, giving someone falses charges is a serious rights violation.


The same guy that answered the phone is the one who arrested her when she went to the station.


Then the girl should also be sue, on top of the previously mentioned punishments.

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Fri 07/17/09 08:18 PM
The entire family should be suing the Lincoln Park PD.

The really odd thing about the whole deal is that the Sargent that did it is one of the most highly decorated officers on the force.

The behavior was completely out of character.

Still doesn't excuse his behavior in this instance.

Andson's photo
Tue 07/21/09 12:54 PM
Edited by Andson on Tue 07/21/09 12:56 PM
If they are a city or state employee, There is standards operations and procedures. If they don't preform to these standards. They can be brought up on charges. I think it is called daralection (sorry about the spelling) of duty. If a police officer does not take a report it is a state offense or so I am told and can be tried in court. The thing I noticed about the call one the operator never tried to calm the girl down to see if it was a real emergency, 2. without that knowledge of the situation I really don't think they are able to decide who gets an ambulance. and the cop that arrested her should also be in trouble. They are here for us and paid for by us to protect and serve us. My question is does anyone know what happened to the dispatcher. If nothing then we show start something with his picture and the incident sending it through the net via emails and it should get to him or a smart attorney that does not live in that city. call me a dreamer but the man should be publicly outed and punished.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 07/21/09 12:58 PM

YellowRose,

I was wondering how you might respond to this, since you often wear the 'police officer apologist' hat.

I suppose one way to stop problems like this from happening is to not use regular police officers on the 911 line - use people who are specially trained (and selected) for more positive qualities in their personality.

The thing i find really interesting, and which, in my experience, is common, is that after the cop on the line handled it poorly, he deliberately mis-lead (without out-right lying) the other police, who then treated her with presumption when she came to the station. And based on the deceptive cop's representation of events, she finds herself in cuffs, and the police think they are doing the 'right thing'.

I'm definitely not sitting in personal judgment of the individual cops - I've seen some of what they put up with, and I don't have the patience and humility for that. It wears on a person, and I'm not surprised some of them become total ******** over time. But how can we improve the system?



who the HE!! is apologizing for the cops actions? not sure where you get this from. If you read my post, you would have seen I did NOT agree with what the cop did and how I feltwhoa

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Tue 07/21/09 01:47 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj91eeoFOBk&NR=1


The night my wife passed away I'm certain I was a bit rude at the very first moments of the phone call. I do remember the person on the other end of the line quickly getting me to calm down, by the time I was able to respond appropriately I was informed that an ambulance had already been dispatched. THAT's the way calls like this should be handled. The officer acted as if he was at a regular police phone line NOT a 911 line where it is not uncommon to get calls from upset callers who desperately need help. I'm not gonna say he should be fired but he definitely has no business on a 911 line, and certainly he deserves disciplinary action and possibly a law suit.

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