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The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it. I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States. Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else. BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population. When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable. If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over. Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through... If that were true it would already be a dictatorship here now. So there is a flaw there somewhere. What makes you think we aren't? It would have been Bush that would have done it if it could be done. He was the closest we have had to one. He had the ole ideal of the right wing that he knew what was best for each of us and he was going to make it so no matter what he had to do. Money is a dangerous thing, I will agree, but there is over sight in our system that helps to curb the abuse money does here. It may not be all it can be but it is there. Thinking on two dimensional terms... What if the president really isn't the dictator? You realize every monarchy and dictatorship is ultimately and oligarchy right? A counsel runs it. What if the president is just a puppet used to control a crowd? What if the people that run this country are hiding behind a curtain? If i wanted to take over a country like the U.S. i certainly wouldn't announce it. First i would take over the media, and put my men in power. Then i would change the constitution giving the power of money to another counsel i appointed. Then i would regulate the school system with more of my employees. Dumb down the schooling a bit. Teach them that the government needs to take care of them. Then i would effectively run the country, no matter who was president. All these things exist. This is not impossible. I have already heard this conspiracy theory and it is not verifiable. No matter what in this world someone can find a conspiracy in it and start the propaganda that perpetuates it. I want proof of this conspiracy. Tangible touchable proof. You missed my point. What can be proven is all these things exist. CFR - government in charge of the media Department of education - in charge of schools Federal Reserve - private corporation in charge of all our money. So the vulnerability is there yes? Perhaps we should use our brains and cut off that possible route before someone uses it against us? |
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i was raised in alabama. i seen racist every day.so are new judge is not a racist,
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The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it. I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States. You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does. You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left. This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself. Not discrimination at all. They can't deny it. You used the same logical thinking fallacy used in discrimmination. It's called oversimplification. You said all right wingers are like that. And all liberals are like this. It cannot be proven, and therefore is not a fact. okay okay I will admit to the discrimination in the statement. I will correct it to say most right wing and most liberals so that makes it not discrimination but observation...lol  
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The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it. I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States. Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else. BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population. When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable. If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over. Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through... If that were true it would already be a dictatorship here now. So there is a flaw there somewhere. What makes you think we aren't? It would have been Bush that would have done it if it could be done. He was the closest we have had to one. He had the ole ideal of the right wing that he knew what was best for each of us and he was going to make it so no matter what he had to do. Money is a dangerous thing, I will agree, but there is over sight in our system that helps to curb the abuse money does here. It may not be all it can be but it is there. Thinking on two dimensional terms... What if the president really isn't the dictator? You realize every monarchy and dictatorship is ultimately and oligarchy right? A counsel runs it. What if the president is just a puppet used to control a crowd? What if the people that run this country are hiding behind a curtain? If i wanted to take over a country like the U.S. i certainly wouldn't announce it. First i would take over the media, and put my men in power. Then i would change the constitution giving the power of money to another counsel i appointed. Then i would regulate the school system with more of my employees. Dumb down the schooling a bit. Teach them that the government needs to take care of them. Then i would effectively run the country, no matter who was president. All these things exist. This is not impossible. I have already heard this conspiracy theory and it is not verifiable. No matter what in this world someone can find a conspiracy in it and start the propaganda that perpetuates it. I want proof of this conspiracy. Tangible touchable proof. You missed my point. What can be proven is all these things exist. CFR - government in charge of the media Department of education - in charge of schools Federal Reserve - private corporation in charge of all our money. So the vulnerability is there yes? Perhaps we should use our brains and cut off that possible route before someone uses it against us? But Driven are not all organizations which include governments vulnerable to this anyway? What it comes down to is checks and balances and the constructors put them into the constitution and by laws for such an issue, right? Our checks and balances were attacked as never before by the Bush administration. |
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The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it. I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States. You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does. You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left. This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself. Not discrimination at all. They can't deny it. You used the same logical thinking fallacy used in discrimmination. It's called oversimplification. You said all right wingers are like that. And all liberals are like this. It cannot be proven, and therefore is not a fact. Ok ok I am confused again. I thought republicans were republicans and right wingers were just part of the republican party, or should I say their not so better half? That said I would say right wingers are all alike in their basic thinking.. no/ yes? Here i thought democrats were left wing, and republicans were right wing.... Perhaps i am mistaken... Stop it you're making my head swim.. LOL I was just referring to two sides of the republican party, guess I didn't explain myself well enough. To me, from the media it seems that the republican part is the radical right because the extremists in that party are the ones that get all the attention.. closer? or no? I'm not willing to say that the left isn't looney toons too, was just referring to the right at the moment. I don't see them as two sides to the same coin.. so maybe I am still missing something. |
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The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it. I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States. Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else. BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population. When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable. If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over. Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through... If that were true it would already be a dictatorship here now. So there is a flaw there somewhere. What makes you think we aren't? It would have been Bush that would have done it if it could be done. He was the closest we have had to one. He had the ole ideal of the right wing that he knew what was best for each of us and he was going to make it so no matter what he had to do. Money is a dangerous thing, I will agree, but there is over sight in our system that helps to curb the abuse money does here. It may not be all it can be but it is there. Thinking on two dimensional terms... What if the president really isn't the dictator? You realize every monarchy and dictatorship is ultimately and oligarchy right? A counsel runs it. What if the president is just a puppet used to control a crowd? What if the people that run this country are hiding behind a curtain? If i wanted to take over a country like the U.S. i certainly wouldn't announce it. First i would take over the media, and put my men in power. Then i would change the constitution giving the power of money to another counsel i appointed. Then i would regulate the school system with more of my employees. Dumb down the schooling a bit. Teach them that the government needs to take care of them. Then i would effectively run the country, no matter who was president. All these things exist. This is not impossible. I have already heard this conspiracy theory and it is not verifiable. No matter what in this world someone can find a conspiracy in it and start the propaganda that perpetuates it. I want proof of this conspiracy. Tangible touchable proof. Kinda like leaving the front door open, and wondering why a few things are missing. Could it be we misplaced it? Yes. Could it be someone came in and stole it? Yes. There is no tangible, touchable proof either way. So as a scienctist, one would have to not assume either happened. But the problem is still there. Maybe we should retrace our steps and find out what happened? And maybe start shutting and locking the front door? |
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lets have a truce. both sides are morons.one party has bad ideas, other side can have a worse idea.
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The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it. I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States. Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else. BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population. When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable. If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over. Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through... If that were true it would already be a dictatorship here now. So there is a flaw there somewhere. What makes you think we aren't? It would have been Bush that would have done it if it could be done. He was the closest we have had to one. He had the ole ideal of the right wing that he knew what was best for each of us and he was going to make it so no matter what he had to do. Money is a dangerous thing, I will agree, but there is over sight in our system that helps to curb the abuse money does here. It may not be all it can be but it is there. Thinking on two dimensional terms... What if the president really isn't the dictator? You realize every monarchy and dictatorship is ultimately and oligarchy right? A counsel runs it. What if the president is just a puppet used to control a crowd? What if the people that run this country are hiding behind a curtain? If i wanted to take over a country like the U.S. i certainly wouldn't announce it. First i would take over the media, and put my men in power. Then i would change the constitution giving the power of money to another counsel i appointed. Then i would regulate the school system with more of my employees. Dumb down the schooling a bit. Teach them that the government needs to take care of them. Then i would effectively run the country, no matter who was president. All these things exist. This is not impossible. I have already heard this conspiracy theory and it is not verifiable. No matter what in this world someone can find a conspiracy in it and start the propaganda that perpetuates it. I want proof of this conspiracy. Tangible touchable proof. You missed my point. What can be proven is all these things exist. CFR - government in charge of the media Department of education - in charge of schools Federal Reserve - private corporation in charge of all our money. So the vulnerability is there yes? Perhaps we should use our brains and cut off that possible route before someone uses it against us? But Driven are not all organizations which include governments vulnerable to this anyway? What it comes down to is checks and balances and the constructors put them into the constitution and by laws for such an issue, right? Our checks and balances were attacked as never before by the Bush administration. Problem.... We got rid of some of the checks and balances. |
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The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it. I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States. You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does. You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left. This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself. Not discrimination at all. They can't deny it. You used the same logical thinking fallacy used in discrimmination. It's called oversimplification. You said all right wingers are like that. And all liberals are like this. It cannot be proven, and therefore is not a fact. Ok ok I am confused again. I thought republicans were republicans and right wingers were just part of the republican party, or should I say their not so better half? That said I would say right wingers are all alike in their basic thinking.. no/ yes? Here i thought democrats were left wing, and republicans were right wing.... Perhaps i am mistaken... Stop it you're making my head swim.. LOL I was just referring to two sides of the republican party, guess I didn't explain myself well enough. To me, from the media it seems that the republican part is the radical right because the extremists in that party are the ones that get all the attention.. closer? or no? I'm not willing to say that the left isn't looney toons too, was just referring to the right at the moment. I don't see them as two sides to the same coin.. so maybe I am still missing something. You aren't...perhaps i did. It is rather late. But i think you are correct. |
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The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it. I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States. You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does. You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left. This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself. Not discrimination at all. They can't deny it. You used the same logical thinking fallacy used in discrimmination. It's called oversimplification. You said all right wingers are like that. And all liberals are like this. It cannot be proven, and therefore is not a fact. Ok ok I am confused again. I thought republicans were republicans and right wingers were just part of the republican party, or should I say their not so better half? That said I would say right wingers are all alike in their basic thinking.. no/ yes? Here i thought democrats were left wing, and republicans were right wing.... Perhaps i am mistaken... Stop it you're making my head swim.. LOL I was just referring to two sides of the republican party, guess I didn't explain myself well enough. To me, from the media it seems that the republican part is the radical right because the extremists in that party are the ones that get all the attention.. closer? or no? I'm not willing to say that the left isn't looney toons too, was just referring to the right at the moment. I don't see them as two sides to the same coin.. so maybe I am still missing something. You aren't...perhaps i did. It is rather late. But i think you are correct. Oh geez, don't go telling me I am right now, I will get a big head.. Just kidding, I can't think all that well this time of night, so signing off to get some much needed sleep.. Night Driven, Night all.... |
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Edited by
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The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it. I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States. Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else. BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population. When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable. If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over. Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through... If that were true it would already be a dictatorship here now. So there is a flaw there somewhere. What makes you think we aren't? It would have been Bush that would have done it if it could be done. He was the closest we have had to one. He had the ole ideal of the right wing that he knew what was best for each of us and he was going to make it so no matter what he had to do. Money is a dangerous thing, I will agree, but there is over sight in our system that helps to curb the abuse money does here. It may not be all it can be but it is there. Thinking on two dimensional terms... What if the president really isn't the dictator? You realize every monarchy and dictatorship is ultimately and oligarchy right? A counsel runs it. What if the president is just a puppet used to control a crowd? What if the people that run this country are hiding behind a curtain? If i wanted to take over a country like the U.S. i certainly wouldn't announce it. First i would take over the media, and put my men in power. Then i would change the constitution giving the power of money to another counsel i appointed. Then i would regulate the school system with more of my employees. Dumb down the schooling a bit. Teach them that the government needs to take care of them. Then i would effectively run the country, no matter who was president. All these things exist. This is not impossible. I have already heard this conspiracy theory and it is not verifiable. No matter what in this world someone can find a conspiracy in it and start the propaganda that perpetuates it. I want proof of this conspiracy. Tangible touchable proof. You missed my point. What can be proven is all these things exist. CFR - government in charge of the media Department of education - in charge of schools Federal Reserve - private corporation in charge of all our money. So the vulnerability is there yes? Perhaps we should use our brains and cut off that possible route before someone uses it against us? But Driven are not all organizations which include governments vulnerable to this anyway? What it comes down to is checks and balances and the constructors put them into the constitution and by laws for such an issue, right? Our checks and balances were attacked as never before by the Bush administration. Problem.... We got rid of some of the checks and balances. And you are right. ALl governments are vulnerable to this. Which is why our forefather intended the people to be self sustaining. Educated and smart enough to take care of themselves and eachother. Local governments were supposed to have the majority of the power. This is also why they wanted the government to stay out of religion, and the media. This is also why they had us keep our guns, so in case it ever did get out of control, the people could take it back. Kinda of briliant isn't it? I find it sad that they don't teach that in school anymore... |
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The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it. I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States. You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does. You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left. This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself. Not discrimination at all. They can't deny it. You used the same logical thinking fallacy used in discrimmination. It's called oversimplification. You said all right wingers are like that. And all liberals are like this. It cannot be proven, and therefore is not a fact. Ok ok I am confused again. I thought republicans were republicans and right wingers were just part of the republican party, or should I say their not so better half? That said I would say right wingers are all alike in their basic thinking.. no/ yes? Here i thought democrats were left wing, and republicans were right wing.... Perhaps i am mistaken... Stop it you're making my head swim.. LOL I was just referring to two sides of the republican party, guess I didn't explain myself well enough. To me, from the media it seems that the republican part is the radical right because the extremists in that party are the ones that get all the attention.. closer? or no? I'm not willing to say that the left isn't looney toons too, was just referring to the right at the moment. I don't see them as two sides to the same coin.. so maybe I am still missing something. You aren't...perhaps i did. It is rather late. But i think you are correct. Oh geez, don't go telling me I am right now, I will get a big head.. Just kidding, I can't think all that well this time of night, so signing off to get some much needed sleep.. Night Driven, Night all.... Goodnight
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George bush was an ahole. an anyone who well you no.George w bush is a born coward with Mr 5 deferment dick cheney. and lets don't forget about American favorite. drug addict rush Limbaugh. like must is all for war. till its there time.
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George bush was an ahole. an anyone who well you no.George w bush is a born coward with Mr 5 deferment dick cheney. and lets don't forget about American favorite. drug addict rush Limbaugh. like must is all for war. till its there time. Wow dude...  that made me laugh. It was random, and i can't say untrue... Sorry i snapped at you ealier. |
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Goodnight all. Been fun. Good debates....
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hey no problem man we all have our own opinion . take care is 816 am here time for breakfast.
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I just wrote long thing and read through it and decided to delete it because I am too tired to carry on this debate. I am making no sense to even me...lol
Anyway good night all. |
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goodnight be safe, night night.
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hey no problem man we all have our own opinion . take care is 816 am here time for breakfast. 8:16 a.m. where? |
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in odessa ukraine.
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