Topic: fox news
Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:18 PM

The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does.

You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left.

This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:25 PM

The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else.

BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population.

When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable.

If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over.

Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through...

Dragoness's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:28 PM


The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does.

You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left.

This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself.


Not discrimination at all. They can't deny it.

Dragoness's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:29 PM


The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else.

BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population.

When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable.

If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over.

Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through...


If that were true it would already be a dictatorship here now. So there is a flaw there somewhere.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:32 PM



The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else.

BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population.

When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable.

If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over.

Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through...


If that were true it would already be a dictatorship here now. So there is a flaw there somewhere.


What makes you think we aren't?

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:36 PM



The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does.

You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left.

This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself.


Not discrimination at all. They can't deny it.


You used the same logical thinking fallacy used in discrimmination.

It's called oversimplification.

You said all right wingers are like that. And all liberals are like this.

It cannot be proven, and therefore is not a fact.

Dragoness's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:36 PM




The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else.

BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population.

When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable.

If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over.

Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through...


If that were true it would already be a dictatorship here now. So there is a flaw there somewhere.


What makes you think we aren't?


It would have been Bush that would have done it if it could be done. He was the closest we have had to one. He had the ole ideal of the right wing that he knew what was best for each of us and he was going to make it so no matter what he had to do.

Money is a dangerous thing, I will agree, but there is over sight in our system that helps to curb the abuse money does here. It may not be all it can be but it is there.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:36 PM
Perhaps we are being controlled much more than we think...

supermike48's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:37 PM
i found out one good thing about Ukraine there is no fox new, proves these people are smart. i have not heard one word of English all day.whats more amazing i can still speak my own language. but fox. its as bad as msnbc, both are bias.

no photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:39 PM


The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does.

You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left.

This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself.


while you might be right to some extent Driven, the fact remains that the right has not helped to educated the public on who is who on the right and has left the public with the idea that the radical conservatives rule the right.

Personally i wish the right would define it self because I myself have no real clue where they are coming from half the time, usually it doesn't sound friendly or inclusive. So maybe the right could use some better spokesman so that folks don't lump them. Palin certainly won't fit that bill.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:42 PM





The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else.

BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population.

When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable.

If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over.

Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through...


If that were true it would already be a dictatorship here now. So there is a flaw there somewhere.


What makes you think we aren't?


It would have been Bush that would have done it if it could be done. He was the closest we have had to one. He had the ole ideal of the right wing that he knew what was best for each of us and he was going to make it so no matter what he had to do.

Money is a dangerous thing, I will agree, but there is over sight in our system that helps to curb the abuse money does here. It may not be all it can be but it is there.



Thinking on two dimensional terms...

What if the president really isn't the dictator? You realize every monarchy and dictatorship is ultimately and oligarchy right? A counsel runs it.

What if the president is just a puppet used to control a crowd? What if the people that run this country are hiding behind a curtain? If i wanted to take over a country like the U.S. i certainly wouldn't announce it.

First i would take over the media, and put my men in power. Then i would change the constitution giving the power of money to another counsel i appointed. Then i would regulate the school system with more of my employees. Dumb down the schooling a bit. Teach them that the government needs to take care of them.

Then i would effectively run the country, no matter who was president.

All these things exist. This is not impossible.

no photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:44 PM




The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does.

You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left.

This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself.


Not discrimination at all. They can't deny it.


You used the same logical thinking fallacy used in discrimmination.

It's called oversimplification.

You said all right wingers are like that. And all liberals are like this.

It cannot be proven, and therefore is not a fact.


Ok ok I am confused again. I thought republicans were republicans and right wingers were just part of the republican party, or should I say their not so better half? That said I would say right wingers are all alike in their basic thinking.. no/ yes?

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:45 PM



The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does.

You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left.

This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself.


while you might be right to some extent Driven, the fact remains that the right has not helped to educated the public on who is who on the right and has left the public with the idea that the radical conservatives rule the right.

Personally i wish the right would define it self because I myself have no real clue where they are coming from half the time, usually it doesn't sound friendly or inclusive. So maybe the right could use some better spokesman so that folks don't lump them. Palin certainly won't fit that bill.


Any time an honest person steps forward on the right, he or she gets written off as crazy.

The same is said about the left. In fact there really is no difference between right and left. Although it seems most of the right tends to push Facism, while the Left tends to push socialism/communism. A means to the same end. Niether works long term unless under a dictatorship.

supermike48's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:45 PM
well i think we all no that the president is not really in charge. mr money is.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:46 PM





The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does.

You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left.

This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself.


Not discrimination at all. They can't deny it.


You used the same logical thinking fallacy used in discrimmination.

It's called oversimplification.

You said all right wingers are like that. And all liberals are like this.

It cannot be proven, and therefore is not a fact.


Ok ok I am confused again. I thought republicans were republicans and right wingers were just part of the republican party, or should I say their not so better half? That said I would say right wingers are all alike in their basic thinking.. no/ yes?


Here i thought democrats were left wing, and republicans were right wing.... Perhaps i am mistaken...

Winx's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:46 PM



i no what the problem is, us democrats don't bug phones we don't make up stuff to invade someones country. as for the hippie comment. yes and always will be.we don't claim to the party of high morals. example mark Sanford.


We were attacked by Korea and Vietnam?

Gulf of Tonkin ring a bell?

Party of High Morals... Thats comical... John Edwards is a perfect example of your high morals.. Cheating on his wife while shes dying from cancer...


here is a few republican hypocrites newt Gingrich while wife laying in bed dieding of cancer, he ask for a divorced hypocrite, mark Sanford went on fox news saying of his high morals.no not old enought for that


Adding - McCain had affair while married and married the mistress.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:46 PM

well i think we all no that the president is not really in charge. mr money is.


Yes and no....it's a little more complicated i think...

Dragoness's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:48 PM






The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


Liberals love our constitution. Mainly because it provides for much tolerance. It limits the powers of government, and says you can live how you want as long as it doesn't endanger the rights of soemone else.

BTW, we have made mistakes, yes. Most of these mistakes were corrected. But what you fail to see is the reason laws were made in our constitution. Every amendment is important because it limits the control anyone can have over a population.

When you override this idea, you make us vulnerable. When you centralize the government you make us vulnerable. When you take away the power to create money from an elected body of people and give it to a private company, you make us vulnerable. When you rely on the government to do everything for you, you make yourself vulnerable. When you give total control of our education system to one body of people you make the education vulnerable.

If i had the money, and i were evil, even with my limited intelligence i could take this whole country over.

Cause and effect right? Think things through, all the way through...


If that were true it would already be a dictatorship here now. So there is a flaw there somewhere.


What makes you think we aren't?


It would have been Bush that would have done it if it could be done. He was the closest we have had to one. He had the ole ideal of the right wing that he knew what was best for each of us and he was going to make it so no matter what he had to do.

Money is a dangerous thing, I will agree, but there is over sight in our system that helps to curb the abuse money does here. It may not be all it can be but it is there.



Thinking on two dimensional terms...

What if the president really isn't the dictator? You realize every monarchy and dictatorship is ultimately and oligarchy right? A counsel runs it.

What if the president is just a puppet used to control a crowd? What if the people that run this country are hiding behind a curtain? If i wanted to take over a country like the U.S. i certainly wouldn't announce it.

First i would take over the media, and put my men in power. Then i would change the constitution giving the power of money to another counsel i appointed. Then i would regulate the school system with more of my employees. Dumb down the schooling a bit. Teach them that the government needs to take care of them.

Then i would effectively run the country, no matter who was president.

All these things exist. This is not impossible.


I have already heard this conspiracy theory and it is not verifiable.

No matter what in this world someone can find a conspiracy in it and start the propaganda that perpetuates it.

I want proof of this conspiracy. Tangible touchable proof.

supermike48's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:48 PM
i,m afraid i cant say anything bad about McCain besides he picked that dumb women. yes he came back from vietnam he drank he chased women. but only he noes how much he suffer. i say give him a break.

Dragoness's photo
Wed 07/15/09 09:49 PM




The problem with the right wing is they believe they know how everyone should live, like they do, and want to create laws to enforce it. Liberals believe in live and let live as long as you are within the laws of the land and if a discrimination is noticed in the laws you work to change it.

I see liberalism as allowing the change to accomodate the changing world, I see conservativism as staying stuck in the past and we have a terrible past to overcome here in these here United States.


You seem to lack the same logic Supermike does.

You can't lump "right wing" into the "bad" catagory, and "liberals" into the left.

This is an illogical attack. Funny how you speak against discrimmination, but practice it yourself.


Not discrimination at all. They can't deny it.


You used the same logical thinking fallacy used in discrimmination.

It's called oversimplification.

You said all right wingers are like that. And all liberals are like this.

It cannot be proven, and therefore is not a fact.


okay okay I will admit to the discrimination in the statement.

I will correct it to say most right wing and most liberals so that makes it not discrimination but observation...lol