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well the one reason why i won't let something drop is bc the other person refused to acknowledge the reason for the argument in the first place...
if you are getting followed and even jumped on, i'd love to hear that argument...men say they diffuse arguments...but ignoring or saying fine is not diffusing it...lol both parties MUST communicate when there is an issue...and that does not mean one talks and the other listens...BOTH sides must be heard... **Remember, just bc you see the other persons side does /not/ mean you are wrong or you accept the blame... JMHO |
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well the one reason why i won't let something drop is bc the other person refused to acknowledge the reason for the argument in the first place... if you are getting followed and even jumped on, i'd love to hear that argument...men say they diffuse arguments...but ignoring or saying fine is not diffusing it...lol both parties MUST communicate when there is an issue...and that does not mean one talks and the other listens...BOTH sides must be heard... **Remember, just bc you see the other persons side does /not/ mean you are wrong or you accept the blame... JMHO  
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wow, i just got lost in the din of things....i guess people would rather argue that solve the problem together, and this brings up an interesting point.....is arguing fun for most of you?
because that would be a whole different type of thing, i personally don't have time to argue, and it's hard enough making things work, without all that, so i use the solution in my last post, and it works.... but if you like to argue for ego's sake, the tail will whip around to get you........everytime. fact, win or lose. break the chain, and things will move better... |
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wow, i just got lost in the din of things....i guess people would rather argue that solve the problem together, and this brings up an interesting point.....is arguing fun for most of you? because that would be a whole different type of thing, i personally don't have time to argue, and it's hard enough making things work, without all that, so i use the solution in my last post, and it works.... but if you like to argue for ego's sake, the tail will whip around to get you........everytime. fact, win or lose. break the chain, and things will move better... See why I'm single. |
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The time I had my back jumped on was over me and my friends going to a home football game in our city I was a season pass ticket holder with two seats that I would sell at a discounted rate to a friend of mine.
She knew this was a tradition I had during football season,that it was the guys day out,I had been going to the games with 2 of my friends since I was a kid. 2 days before the game she insisted I be with her or take her to the game,when I reminded her of our agreement over the games that I was allowed this by her,and besides this would have hurt my friend by telling him he couldn't go to the game with me,by the way this was a playoff game between the Houston Oilers and Cleveland Browns and there were no other tickets left to buy for the game. So I stood my ground and told her that she was going back on her word to me about the game and there was an issue of trus involved as well by her going back on her word to me. Needless to say she became very upset even though I offered to take her out to dinner and dancing after the game. |
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Edited by
darkowl1
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Mon 06/29/09 11:27 AM
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wow, i just got lost in the din of things....i guess people would rather argue that solve the problem together, and this brings up an interesting point.....is arguing fun for most of you? because that would be a whole different type of thing, i personally don't have time to argue, and it's hard enough making things work, without all that, so i use the solution in my last post, and it works.... but if you like to argue for ego's sake, the tail will whip around to get you........everytime. fact, win or lose. break the chain, and things will move better... See why I'm single. yeah! i think they all just skipped what i said, and kept rolling. this is something i attained, and put to use, and has never failed, and has saved me a lot of heart-ache, and i'm sure all my friends. i'm not agreeable and not dis-agreeable, i just like to solve things together, or lighten up and put a sex bet on it to make it more fun instead of anymosity to where you can't sleep. to each his own... 
that's it.....i must be yoda's student, lol....but always have much to learn he would say...............and i agreee!!! he would also say...do...people must....... but think, they do not.... 
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I think that saying men never win is too wide sweeping of a statement.
should be.. Why do men never win.. WITH SOME WOMEN. In all of my years, I have only had two women that were never wrong. When the yelling starts, the conversation is over, because it is no longer a CONVERSATION. If she cant let things cool down and finish the chat later, it is time to rethink the relationship. Just my opinion. I do not yell and WILL NOT be yelled at. |
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Edited by
Moblodite
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Mon 06/29/09 12:04 PM
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wow, i just got lost in the din of things....i guess people would rather argue that solve the problem together, and this brings up an interesting point.....is arguing fun for most of you? because that would be a whole different type of thing, i personally don't have time to argue, and it's hard enough making things work, without all that, so i use the solution in my last post, and it works.... but if you like to argue for ego's sake, the tail will whip around to get you........everytime. fact, win or lose. break the chain, and things will move better... But sex in mid argument can be wild!!!  
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the problem with arguing is that when it gets to this point both parties lose as they both are usually arguing a fallacy. as men once it is done we tend to forget it as the past where women remember it for a long time. as men we feel that once it is done it's done. we learn that women won't forget it and that we will pay for a long time to come. you need to agree in a relationship that it is ok to call a timeout and take a break before it turns into a full argument. if you want to argue go find one of the guys you hang with that way when it is done it is over
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Why can we never win an argument with a woman,maybe because us men would rather diffuse the situation before something is said that can't be taken back,maybe we are trying to be the peacemakers in a relationship. Woman however just can't seem to let go when arguing with a man,I just can't see anything constructive in arguing having a serious discussion however is another matter,when voices become raised and anger crops into the picture this would be a good time for both parties to back away from one another. At times when I have been in arguments with girlfriends,they will follow me out the door and would not let me leave by standing in front of my cars door or even taking my car keys away from me,one even jumped on my back,because I was trying to leave in the middle of a discussion we were having where she was becoming angry. A lot of times arguments start over something about the relationship,I realize a woman can become frustrated when discussing these matters with us,since we don't like to talk about these things,we feel if it ain't broke why try to fix it. If it ain't broke... There wouldn't be an arguement. If ya see it comming (called paying attention) fix'n its quite easy without a single arguement. As far as the 'key to the kitty kat' well... I reckon that works both ways. |
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It takes two people to argue, and I won't be that second person. We agree to disagree or we agree to shut up. Deal with it...jmo
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most men have learned this by the first grade
you will never ever win an argument with a woman and if you DO she'll make you regret it the rest of your life |
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most men have learned this by the first grade you will never ever win an argument with a woman and if you DO she'll make you regret it the rest of your life Yes the ultimate revenge........Marriage
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most men have learned this by the first grade you will never ever win an argument with a woman and if you DO she'll make you regret it the rest of your life or at least if she can't make you regret it herself, she knows one of her "sisters" will eventually ... women have a sort of collective mentality in this regard. |
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I argue with woman. If there is something about the argue and I have a solid ground on my point of view, she's gonna hear it. I'm not a "yes Ma'am" kinda guy.
Lot's of guys make the mistake of not sure why, either the legend that you can't win an arguement with a woman or because of fear of loosing the arguement or fear of loosing her somehow, just because she might get upset about having the opposite sex having his point of view on things. Notice, I'm not saying right or wrong, I'm saying "different point of view". Essentially you are also ruining the woman at the same, time who will start to take things for granted and that she always comes out unchallenged from any argument, giving a false security of getting anything at the snap of the finger. Wrong. Eventually, this could be a reason why some women loose interest in their men. |
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