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Topic: I'm Sorry For His Death, But....
BonnyMiss's photo
Mon 06/29/09 10:26 AM

Still waiting.


Hello Mr Music. waving

Mr_Music's photo
Mon 06/29/09 10:27 AM
Greetings, Bonny.

lighthouselover's photo
Mon 06/29/09 10:31 AM



Never mind... it just goes in a circle I guess... lol

That was not the point of my post. It's not about MJ. It's about the silliness given to a celebrity death over the death of someone else.




silliness? interesting. so, the point of your post is about what you have labeled as silliness. alright. I am being a bit facetious here...sorry. I understand what you are saying



Where was the TRIBUTE to the doctors who made breakthroughs in medicine when they passed? I am sure what they did was much more important than entertainment.

Or the scientists that helped man reach the moon and other extraordinary discoveries? Isn't that a global occurrence that everyone benefited from?




there have been many tributes to many scientists, doctors, nurses, teachers, saints, popes, religious leaders, presidents, etc. I watch them all the time on TV...I read about them in books and on the internet...

honestly, people have a stronger reaction when something is emotional to them. you know that. people are tied to certain things that bring back memories...and that person/celebrity was part of that...they might equate that to a kind of 'death' of part of their own childhood...

really, it doesn't bother me...it is an interesting sociological study in human behavior. the reasons will be endless and as varied as the people who would answer the survey, no?



I am not knocking your feelings for celebrities. Fans are fans; no one should try to take that away from them. I just can't see crying and getting so worked up for someone I never knew. I liked his music, I like Billy Mays even! Ed McMahon made me laugh, and Farrah introduced me to boyhood fantasy. I was a big John Wayne fan, Stevie Rae Vaughn fan, Vincent Price fan, even liked Elvis and John Lennon. But my world did not collapse and stop when they died.

When I heard the news they passed, I paused, reflected a little, said a silent prayer, and went on with my day. I can't see crying, leaving work, taking a day off from work, and just wanting to be left alone because someone who I never met and who was not concerned about me, a celebrity, passed away.


how many people did have their world end when one of these people died? how many people took the day off? how many people just did the same thing you did?

What is the right way to handle the death of someone? anyone? is there a way to handle the death of someone you have not met, yet was a major influence in your life vs. a family member who did not influence you? the "norm" of grief reaction? (something I am very familiar with, and the subject of my book.)

the 'argument' is one of human behavior and a sociological phenomenon. great scholars have studied human behavior for years...and still have great debates about it.

It could be something as simple as the 'crowd mentality'. people have a desire, a need to belong...and some person that brings people together under a common theme...they can yield a lot of power, no?


It's not that I don't like celebrities. I appreciate that they worked and sacrificed to get where they are. But without people, they wouldn't be on that pedestal.

People touch our lives everyday with their music, their acting, their literary works, but I feel that without us, they wouldn't be who they are.

Okay, sitting in a comfortable chair waiting to get slammed by rebuttals again.... waving




yes, it does go 'round and 'round....:smile:

You can look at it as simple logic; the larger the number of people that know someone, the larger the number of people that will react to that person.

it also sounds to me (just a bit perhaps) that you think this is another instance where the world/life is not fair.

and by now, you and I both know that life is not fair. period.

why do you take any rebuttal as "being slammed"? interesting...





Mr_Music's photo
Mon 06/29/09 10:33 AM


Git 'im, Deb!

:laughing:

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/29/09 10:40 AM
am I the only one that gets why there is more news about celebrities vs the average person? they are celebrities and of course in the spot light. people like these stars are known world round, where as someone like me isn't....so of course it's in the news more. doesn't mean the celebrities lives are more important...just they are more well known

lighthouselover's photo
Mon 06/29/09 10:47 AM

am I the only one that gets why there is more news about celebrities vs the average person? they are celebrities and of course in the spot light. people like these stars are known world round, where as someone like me isn't....so of course it's in the news more. doesn't mean the celebrities lives are more important...just they are more well known




nope, I get it.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/29/09 10:48 AM


am I the only one that gets why there is more news about celebrities vs the average person? they are celebrities and of course in the spot light. people like these stars are known world round, where as someone like me isn't....so of course it's in the news more. doesn't mean the celebrities lives are more important...just they are more well known




nope, I get it.



laugh it was actually directed at those that don't get it. I tend to speak in generals at times. one of my quirkslaugh

scttrbrain's photo
Mon 06/29/09 10:59 AM
Oh gawd...I see this thread disappearing now. Will you guys keep the yelling to a minimum? Paleeeze?

But, to tell the truth...I am waiting to hear any and all evidence that Michael did anything.

Kat

lighthouselover's photo
Mon 06/29/09 11:01 AM



am I the only one that gets why there is more news about celebrities vs the average person? they are celebrities and of course in the spot light. people like these stars are known world round, where as someone like me isn't....so of course it's in the news more. doesn't mean the celebrities lives are more important...just they are more well known




nope, I get it.



laugh it was actually directed at those that don't get it. I tend to speak in generals at times. one of my quirkslaugh


laugh I have a much more difficult time trying to understand how people cannot get it.

THAT is what just boggles my mind sometimes...how can people NOT understand the concept.

frustrated

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 06/29/09 11:15 AM
shades

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Mon 06/29/09 12:48 PM
look sweeites the only ppl who know the truth are - the stiff an he aint talkin & the kiddies who were fiddled with and they will talk soon enough smokin

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/29/09 12:49 PM

look sweeites the only ppl who know the truth are - the stiff an he aint talkin & the kiddies who were fiddled with and they will talk soon enough smokin


one is talking now saying he lied and his dad made him because the dd wanted money.

Winx's photo
Mon 06/29/09 12:50 PM


look sweeites the only ppl who know the truth are - the stiff an he aint talkin & the kiddies who were fiddled with and they will talk soon enough smokin


one is talking now saying he lied and his dad made him because the dd wanted money.



I haven't seen that yet, Rose. Can it be found online?

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/29/09 12:50 PM
I think the man was unbalanced. but I find it funny that people don't see the parents responsibilities. What parent would let their kids do this? what parent settles instead of seeking justice? the parents that yell cha-ching is who

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Mon 06/29/09 12:51 PM


look sweeites the only ppl who know the truth are - the stiff an he aint talkin & the kiddies who were fiddled with and they will talk soon enough smokin


one is talking now saying he lied and his dad made him because the dd wanted money.




i'd lie for twenty million! u done no wrong u don't pay up!

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/29/09 12:53 PM



look sweeites the only ppl who know the truth are - the stiff an he aint talkin & the kiddies who were fiddled with and they will talk soon enough smokin


one is talking now saying he lied and his dad made him because the dd wanted money.



I haven't seen that yet, Rose. Can it be found online?


keith has been posting about it. I found articles online yesterday

fifer...it costs more to fight it. I wouldn't lie and put my kid through this for any amount of money. if this happened to my child...I assure you I couldn't be bought

Winx's photo
Mon 06/29/09 12:54 PM

I think the man was unbalanced. but I find it funny that people don't see the parents responsibilities. What parent would let their kids do this? what parent settles instead of seeking justice? the parents that yell cha-ching is who


I see it. I wouldn't let my child spend the night at stranger's home just because they are a celebrity.

If my child was molested, I want that person punished and not with taking his money.

no photo
Mon 06/29/09 12:58 PM
i think we are never going to agree on this one - I HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH KIDDIE FIDDLERS, that just aint gonna go away no matter what u say(and he was one!). and i don't care if it costs more to fight it,
wi his money he could afford to fight it, and pray tell me how a child was able to accurately describe his genetalia?

Winx's photo
Mon 06/29/09 01:02 PM

i think we are never going to agree on this one - I HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH KIDDIE FIDDLERS, that just aint gonna go away no matter what u say(and he was one!). and i don't care if it costs more to fight it,
wi his money he could afford to fight it, and pray tell me how a child was able to accurately describe his genetalia?


That part gets me. The male genetilia are pretty basic - 3 parts. lol

no photo
Mon 06/29/09 01:04 PM



look sweeites the only ppl who know the truth are - the stiff an he aint talkin & the kiddies who were fiddled with and they will talk soon enough smokin


one is talking now saying he lied and his dad made him because the dd wanted money.



I haven't seen that yet, Rose. Can it be found online?


sweetie ANYTHING can be found on line :wink:

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