Topic: Administration to Reveal Plans for Katrina Housing Transitio
catwoman96's photo
Fri 06/05/09 09:49 PM
hey personally..I think it was silly as all get out to even fix the durn levy in new orleans....let alone rebuild the city and let people continue to live there.

I mean it seems absurd to me to do all this repair work to keep some land the ocean seems intent on reclaiming.


Dragoness's photo
Fri 06/05/09 09:53 PM
Yellow, the reason I point this out is that people attempt to try to make the victims look bad so they don't have to feel bad with the people who suffer.

There will always be natural disasters on this planet, it doesn't matter where you live. We as humans have to understand this will happen and in this country we should always allow for this fact and help each and every time it happens with all the help we can give.

If we start blaming the victims at any level, we will become unfeeling monsters. Not acceptable.

Be it hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, fires, mudslides, floods, microbiological, etc... we should be ready to help when it happens whether it be the first time or the one hundredth.

Insurance companies know how to bilk folks of their hard earned dollars and they will only cover certain things anyway after people pay all that money. It is just not a perfect fix. Outside help is and always will be needed.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 09:53 PM
I live between Dallas and Ft Worth...we had a lot of evacuated people come here. I spoke to the people and helped out...even a got donation drive...so don't think I don't feel for these people...but spending money over and over again expecting different results when nothing has changed...is INSANE

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 09:56 PM
dragoness...I probably know the victims of Katrina first hand better than you do. I know what they went through. I do feel so don't think for one second I'm not sympathetic. I know how insurance companies are as well. but yes...they do have some responsibility when they keep on going back when the levees (to this day) won't hold another hurricsane and they don't have insurance for the new property they have

Dragoness's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:02 PM

dragoness...I probably know the victims of Katrina first hand better than you do. I know what they went through. I do feel so don't think for one second I'm not sympathetic. I know how insurance companies are as well. but yes...they do have some responsibility when they keep on going back when the levees (to this day) won't hold another hurricsane and they don't have insurance for the new property they have


If we are going to stop people from returning there because of the danger then we have to evacuate California for earthquakes and mudslides which are definitely going to happen forever and we have to evacuate and prohibit living in the middle of the country because of tornadoes which are definitely going to happen forever. We have to evacuate and prohibit living next to any of the major rivers in this country because floods are definitely going to happen there forever too. We pay each time any of these events happen too so these victims must be at fault for being stupid enough to live there too, right?

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:07 PM
so when they make the choice to return....who made that choice? they did. they are entitled to make that choice, but they did so knowing what the levees are like and they would lose everything again in the next hurricane. THEY made the choice. Texas even had job fairs for them to help get them on there feet. many stayed. so when do they own up to their choices?

Dragoness's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:13 PM

so when they make the choice to return....who made that choice? they did. they are entitled to make that choice, but they did so knowing what the levees are like and they would lose everything again in the next hurricane. THEY made the choice. Texas even had job fairs for them to help get them on there feet. many stayed. so when do they own up to their choices?


Again If we are going to stop people from returning there because of the danger then we have to evacuate California for earthquakes and mudslides which are definitely going to happen forever and we have to evacuate and prohibit living in the middle of the country because of tornadoes which are definitely going to happen forever. We have to evacuate and prohibit living next to any of the major rivers in this country because floods are definitely going to happen there forever too. We pay each time any of these events happen too so these victims must be at fault for being stupid enough to live there too, right?

People rebuild after tornadoes hit in tornado alley, are they stupid and undeserving too?


People rebuild after earthquakes in earthquake zones, does that make them stupid and undeserving?

People rebuild in flood zones all over the country, does that make them stupid and undeserving?

The point here is that disasters happen and rehappen all over the country but it is still never the victim of mother natures fault that mother nature struck whether it be the first or hundredth time.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:17 PM
when did I say that dragoness? some rebuild with insurance and others move. if they make the choice...then it's there choice to make. they make it knowing it will happen again. so at what point do the tax payers say enough? if they take the chance again and again....it's their chance they take

I am amazed that you don't see that they made the choice. if they make the choice (knowing it will happen again) then it is on them.

maybe I'm just not used to people not owning up to their choices in life (whether they like the choices or not)

what an insane world

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:20 PM
dragoness...we can keep going around in circles. but I helped these people personally. So I know more than just what was on the news. we will just keep disagreeing on the subject. I think they are responsible for their choice to move back over and over again. just as if i didn't carry home or car insurance and something happened...that would be on me

Dragoness's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:21 PM

when did I say that dragoness? some rebuild with insurance and others move. if they make the choice...then it's there choice to make. they make it knowing it will happen again. so at what point do the tax payers say enough? if they take the chance again and again....it's their chance they take

I am amazed that you don't see that they made the choice. if they make the choice (knowing it will happen again) then it is on them.

maybe I'm just not used to people not owning up to their choices in life (whether they like the choices or not)

what an insane world


Because it is a natural disaster like all other natural disasters there will never be "enough" because we all know it will happen again all over the country.

catwoman96's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:22 PM
one should not build a house (or a town)where one knows (beyond a shadow of the doubt) that it could be so easily toppled down.


sorry...its time to move on inland a bit..preferablly a few FEET above sea level.

unless one wants to live in an underwater city at some point in the near future.indifferent




yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:23 PM
ok....so 20 years from now...we are still paying everytime a hurricane hits because people chose to move back there? REALLY? that is insane to me

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:25 PM
like it or not...there are people that don't get insurance and will keep moving back because the tax payers will keep paying...there are those that don't want to put themselves in that position again and would do things differently.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:25 PM

ok....so 20 years from now...we are still paying everytime a hurricane hits because people chose to move back there? REALLY? that is insane to me


Hurricanes have been happening on the coast since people have been on earth, what do you think?

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:26 PM

one should not build a house (or a town)where one knows (beyond a shadow of the doubt) that it could be so easily toppled down.


sorry...its time to move on inland a bit..preferablly a few FEET above sea level.

unless one wants to live in an underwater city at some point in the near future.indifferent






IMO...they are putting their family at risk as well moving back.

catwoman96's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:27 PM
it should be illegal to build below sea level.

I mean if one valued human life....it WOULD be illegal to build below sea level

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:28 PM


ok....so 20 years from now...we are still paying everytime a hurricane hits because people chose to move back there? REALLY? that is insane to me


Hurricanes have been happening on the coast since people have been on earth, what do you think?


and there have been people that learned from it!!!!! and paying money over and over for levees that aren't fixed and won't hold....is wasting money. because it will happen again.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:29 PM
why not build houses on train tracks knowing a train will come through? frustrated if I live in CA knowing the earthquakes...then it is my responsibilites to what I need to do. if I don't have insurance then that would be my problem. just like here with tornados

Dragoness's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:32 PM

it should be illegal to build below sea level.

I mean if one valued human life....it WOULD be illegal to build below sea level


Considering most of our coastal cities are at risk all the time, it doesn't matter if they are below sea level anyway.

People have chosen to live in areas that are flood zones, earthquake zones, tornado zones, fire zones, mudslide zones, etc... for all this time. Land is at a premium too so we cannot necessarily move all the folks out of these areas.

People are going to live in high risk zones and it will not get better, it will get worse as the populations grows.

When mother nature strikes we will help those it strikes no matter how many times it happens, and that is as it should be.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/05/09 10:33 PM
I have insurance...and have gone without the extras in life to pay for it. there have been times the coverage lapsed because I couldn't afford it. But I knew if something happened in that time...I would have to pick myself up