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Topic: Thug justice... Obama/Eric Holder style
beeorganic's photo
Wed 06/03/09 09:51 AM
I'm extremely surprised this topic didn't appear here sooner. A new presidence has been set for every hate group in the nation by the Obama administration. (Source http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/29/charges-black-panthers-dropped-obama/).

The Youtube clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU)

"Charges brought against three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense under the Bush administration have been dropped by the Obama Justice Department, FOX News has learned."

"The charges stemmed from an incident at a Philadelphia polling place on Election Day 2008 when three members of the party were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force -- one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon."

"The three black panthers, Minister King Samir Shabazz, Malik Zulu Shabazz and Jerry Jackson were charged in a civil complaint in the final days of the Bush administration with violating the voter rights act by using coercion, threats and intimidation. Shabazz allegedly held a nightstick or baton that prosecutors said he pointed at people and menacingly tapped it. Prosecutors also say he "supports racially motivated violence against non-blacks and Jews."

"The Obama administration won the case last month, but moved to dismiss the charges on May 15."

"The complaint says the men hurled racial slurs at both blacks and whites."

*NOTE THE BELOW (My emphasis... Bartle Bull is a UBER-LIBERAL)*

"A poll watcher who provided an affidavit to prosecutors in the case noted that Bartle Bull, who worked as a civil rights lawyer in the south in the 1960's and is a former campaign manager for Robert Kennedy, said it was the most blatant form of voter intimidation he had ever seen."

"In his affidavit, obtained by FOX News, Bull wrote "I watched the two uniformed men confront voters and attempt to intimidate voters. They were positioned in a location that forced every voter to pass in close proximity to them. The weapon was openly displayed and brandished in plain sight of voters."

"He also said they tried to "interfere with the work of other poll observers ... whom the uniformed men apparently believed did not share their preferences politically," noting that one of the panthers turned toward the white poll observers and said "you are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker."

"A spokesman for the Department of Justice told FOX News, "The Justice Department was successful in obtaining an injunction that prohibits the defendant who brandished a weapon outside a Philadelphia polling place from doing so again. Claims were dismissed against the other defendants based on a careful assessment of the facts and the law. The department is committed to the vigorous prosecution of those who intimidate, threaten or coerce anyone exercising his or her sacred right to vote."

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yellowrose10's photo
Wed 06/03/09 10:14 AM
if someone wants to protest being a black panther or kkk or whatever...that is their right. but when it breaks the law...then it's a legal issue and should be addressed!!!!!!!!

InvictusV's photo
Wed 06/03/09 11:43 AM
It shouldnt surprise anyone.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 06/03/09 11:44 AM
oh but you know someone will be surprisedscared

InvictusV's photo
Wed 06/03/09 11:48 AM
I am sure there will be plenty of people that are very pleased with this decision. That is the reason for doing it.

markumX's photo
Thu 06/04/09 05:52 AM
yes we all know fox news and youtube are very credible sources of information ::rolls eyes:::

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Thu 06/04/09 08:02 AM
Edited by crickstergo on Thu 06/04/09 08:03 AM
Obama supporters are "STILL IN DENIAL"

ON:

Earmarks
Lobbyist appointments (ethics)
Tax cheat appointments (ethics)
Military Tribunal
GM And Chrysler deal for taxpayers
Defense Department is still Bush's Defense Department
Foreign policy
How to pay for his health care

Flip or Flop or adjust seems to be OK with his supporters.

frustrated frustrated frustrated

beeorganic's photo
Thu 06/04/09 02:30 PM

yes we all know fox news and youtube are very credible sources of information ::rolls eyes:::


Please feel free to cite ANY source invalidating the information/topic sources then (if you can). It's been my experience that eyes that roll are merely loose due to the void behind them.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 06/04/09 02:46 PM
i find it funny that the ones that holler about FOX or anything like that post sites from a leftist slant but have no problem with that ohwell

adj4u's photo
Thu 06/04/09 03:47 PM

yes we all know fox news and youtube are very credible sources of information ::rolls eyes:::


well i would say fox is more reliable than say smirkingchimp which has been used on this site a lot

Dragoness's photo
Thu 06/04/09 03:56 PM

yes we all know fox news and youtube are very credible sources of information ::rolls eyes:::


Faux news and utube....lol


Not a valid site carried this story at all. HMMMMMMM

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 06/04/09 03:58 PM
so MSN or smirkingchimp is a better source?

Dragoness's photo
Thu 06/04/09 04:01 PM
Not one valid site carried this story and if true it was news worthy.

So I guess it is bogus bull as usual from Faux especially.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 06/04/09 04:03 PM
i have asked this before and I'll ask again. can someone give me a list of all of the "credible" sites?the media can put their slant on anything...on all sides. doesn't make it a lie though

adj4u's photo
Thu 06/04/09 04:03 PM
Edited by adj4u on Thu 06/04/09 04:04 PM
washington times

EXCLUSIVE: Career lawyers overruled on voting case
Black Panthers had wielded weapons, blocked polls

By Jerry Seper (Contact) | Friday, May 29, 2009



"In my opinion, the men created an intimidating presence at the entrance to a poll," he declared. "In all my experience in politics, in civil rights litigation and in my efforts in the 1960s to secure the right to vote in Mississippi ... I have never encountered or heard of another instance in the United States where armed and uniformed men blocked the entrance to a polling location."

Mr. Bull said the "clear purpose" of what the Panthers were doing was to "intimidate voters with whom they did not agree." He also said he overheard one of the men tell a white poll watcher: "You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker."

He called their conduct an "outrageous affront to American democracy and the rights of voters to participate in an election without fear." He said it was a "racially motivated effort to limit both poll watchers aiding voters, as well as voters with whom the men did not agree."

The three men named in the complaint - New Black Panther Chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz, Minister King Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson - refused to appear in court to answer the accusations over a near-five month period, court records said.

Justice Department Voting Rights Section Attorney J. Christian Adams complained in one court filing about the defendants' failure to appear or to file any pleadings in the case, arguing that Mr. Jackson was "not an infant, nor is he an incompetent person as he appears capable of managing his own affairs, nor is he in the military service of the United States."

Court records show that as late as May 5, the Justice Department was still considering an order by U.S. District Judge Stewart Dalzell in Philadelphia to seek judgments, or sanctions, against the three Panthers because of their failure to appear.

But 10 days later, the department reversed itself and filed a notice of voluntary dismissal from the complaint for Malik Zulu Shabazz and Mr. Jackson.

That same day, the department asked for the default judgment against King Samir Shabazz, but limited the penalty to an order that he not display a "weapon within 100 feet of any open polling location on any election day in the city of Philadelphia" until Nov. 15, 2012.

Malik Zulu Shabazz is a Washington, D.C., resident.

Mr. Jackson was an elected member of Philadelphia's 14th Ward Democratic Committee, and was credentialed to be at the polling place last Nov. 4 as an official Democratic Party polling observer, according to the Philadelphia City Commissioner's Office.

Efforts to reach the Panthers were unsuccessful. A telephone number listed on the New Black Panthers Web site had been disconnected.

The complaint said that the three men were deployed at the entrance to a Philadelphia polling location wearing the uniform of the New Black Panther Party and that King Samir Shabazz repeatedly brandished a police-style nightstick with a contoured grip and wrist lanyard.

According to the complaint, Malik Zulu Shabazz, a Howard University Law School graduate, said the placement of King Samir Shabazz and Mr. Jackson in Philadelphia was part of a nationwide effort to deploy New Black Panther Party members at polling locations on Election Day.

The New Black Panther Party reportedly has 27 chapters operating across the United States, Britain, the Caribbean and Africa. Its Web page said it has become "a great witness to the validity of the works of the original Black Panther Party," which was founded in 1966 in Oakland, Calif.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/29/career-lawyers-overruled-on-voting-case/?feat=home_cube_position1&page=3

beeorganic's photo
Thu 06/04/09 07:16 PM
How about this as a credible source then... the new black panthers themselves- OUCH! That's gonna leave a mark on you Fox News haters. Nice attempt at damage control to say the very least.

http://www.newblackpanther.com/statement-voterintimidation_phillychapter.html

"Public Notice Regarding Philadelphia Chapter Suspension 1/7/09 NBPP Official Statement
Philadelphia Chapter of the New Black Panther Party is suspended from operations and is not recognized by the New Black Panther Party until further notice.

The New Black Panther Party has never, and never will, condone or promote the carrying of nightsticks or any kind of weapon at any polling place. Such actions that were taken were purely the individual actions of Samir Shabazz and not in any way representative or connected to the New Black Panther Party. On that day November 4th, Samir Shabazz acted purely on his own will and in complete contradiction to the code and conduct of a member of our organization. We don't believe in what he did and did not tell him to do what he did, he moved on his own instructions.

It is true that volunteers in the New Black Panther Party successfully served as poll watchers all over the country and helped get the Black vote out. We were incident free. We are intelligent enough to understand that a polling place is a sensitive site and all actions must be carried out in a civilized and lawful manner.

Certainly no advice from the leadership of the New Black Panther Party was given to Samir Shabazz to do what he did, he acted on his own. This will be the New Black Panther Party's Only Statement on the matter."


So obviously this event did happen... the true question why wasn't this widely reported on other "valid" (liberal) places?




Thomas3474's photo
Thu 06/04/09 07:26 PM
Obama says "voter intimidation is ok with me"!Down with whitey!

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Thu 06/04/09 07:38 PM

Obama says "voter intimidation is ok with me"!Down with whitey!


I prefer "anglo-american" thank you

TJN's photo
Fri 06/05/09 06:59 AM

Obama says "voter intimidation is ok with me"!Down with whitey!

Who you callin whitey
darn crackerlaugh

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Fri 06/05/09 08:14 AM
No ugly, racist, under handed, illegal, dishonest, destructive thing that prez hussein does surprises me in the slightest.

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