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We cannot allow this idea to gain a toe-hold, let alone a foot-hold.
If there exists a court precedent which allows the government to intervene with a person's belief by forcing them to seek medical attention when those beliefs go against it, then you have just effectively removed freedom of choice. C'mon people... Do not support this is any way. |
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Cultural Genocide! Is it still genocide when they do it to themselves? Serious question I don't know. That would be self-determination! |
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Who is God?
Who is to say the child will live even if chemo is used? |
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We cannot allow this idea to gain a toe-hold, let alone a foot-hold. If there exists a court precedent which allows the government to intervene with a person's belief by forcing them to seek medical attention when those beliefs go against it, then you have just effectively removed freedom of choice. C'mon people... Do not support this is any way. Um it's already happened many times over, been happening since I was a kid. The current legal question comes in at what point does the state have the authority. Not saying I agree, just stating what is. |
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We cannot allow this idea to gain a toe-hold, let alone a foot-hold. If there exists a court precedent which allows the government to intervene with a person's belief by forcing them to seek medical attention when those beliefs go against it, then you have just effectively removed freedom of choice. C'mon people... Do not support this is any way. Um it's already happened many times over, been happening since I was a kid. The current legal question comes in at what point does the state have the authority. Not saying I agree, just stating what is. at what point does the state have the authority? At the point all direct living relatives are dead! |
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We cannot allow this idea to gain a toe-hold, let alone a foot-hold. If there exists a court precedent which allows the government to intervene with a person's belief by forcing them to seek medical attention when those beliefs go against it, then you have just effectively removed freedom of choice. C'mon people... Do not support this is any way. Um it's already happened many times over, been happening since I was a kid. The current legal question comes in at what point does the state have the authority. Not saying I agree, just stating what is. at what point does the state have the authority? At the point all direct living relatives are dead! I might agree, not sure I have mixed feelings on the issue. But the thing is that is not the current law in many states. |
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We cannot allow this idea to gain a toe-hold, let alone a foot-hold. If there exists a court precedent which allows the government to intervene with a person's belief by forcing them to seek medical attention when those beliefs go against it, then you have just effectively removed freedom of choice. C'mon people... Do not support this is any way. Um it's already happened many times over, been happening since I was a kid. The current legal question comes in at what point does the state have the authority. Not saying I agree, just stating what is. at what point does the state have the authority? At the point all direct living relatives are dead! i agree to the point that I hate seeing children suffer though. it's a big thing with me. but i can see people rights. not an easy answer IMO |
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Mandating medical treatment is wrong.
Period. |
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there are so many religious beliefs as well as athiests that use alternative medicines!!!!!!!! I never realized how many
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Its not a hard answer if you relize you have no right to the question!
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Edited by
adj4u
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Sat 05/16/09 01:20 PM
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I am sorry but...this kid is and has been under the constant sway of his parents. Is his opinion really independently formed? I asked this in my other post and I will ask it again. How many of you all follow your parents religion in the same manner as they did? Hasn't your relationship with God changed over the years? Even those of you who are very faithful and consistent believers I bet do not fall in lock step with your parents version of faith and obedience. This kid deserves a chance at living so he can make his own call unfettered by his parents ideas of right and wrong. As for the lawyer? It's my bet that the kid does have independent council or at least had the option to have it. well using that logic if you put your kid in a car and go somewhere you are endangering them and should be charged ----------------------------------- Killed by Car Accidents Highway fatalities account for more than 94% of all transportation deaths. There were an estimated 6,289,000 car accidents in the US in 1999. There were about 3.4 million injuries and 41,611 people killed in auto accidents in 1999. The total number of people killed in highway crashes in 2001 was 42,116, compared to 41,945 in 2000. An average of 114 people die each day in car crashes in the U.S http://www.unitedjustice.com/death-statistics.html --------------------------------------- As for the lawyer? It's my bet that the kid does have independent council or at least had the option to have it. your bet is interesting kid has no option to refuse representation they are a minor and it is court appointed and paid for by the (so called) parent since the govt can dictate the care and up bringing of the kids maybe they should start paying the bills for them maybe seeing how eating meat can lead to heart attack if you feed your kid a hamburger you lose the kid just where does it stop |
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Its not a hard answer if you relize you have no right to the question! The place where it gets sticky is when modern medicine has a guarantee of working. It's been likened to legalized homicide. It basically treats the kids a parents property and I have a problems with that too. |
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not even modern medicine is guaranteed. there are peole that have gone through chemo...and still died after being sick from chemo and radiation. nothing is guaranteed as far as treatments
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not even modern medicine is guaranteed. there are peole that have gone through chemo...and still died after being sick from chemo and radiation. nothing is guaranteed as far as treatments that is why they call it practicing medicine |
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not even modern medicine is guaranteed. there are peole that have gone through chemo...and still died after being sick from chemo and radiation. nothing is guaranteed as far as treatments that is why they call it practicing medicine practice makes perfect huh? lol |
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not even modern medicine is guaranteed. there are peole that have gone through chemo...and still died after being sick from chemo and radiation. nothing is guaranteed as far as treatments In this case I have to agree. But the Fanta's post appears to apply to ALL cases. There are cases where there is a more definite outcome between western medicinal treatment and not. |
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not even modern medicine is guaranteed. there are peole that have gone through chemo...and still died after being sick from chemo and radiation. nothing is guaranteed as far as treatments In this case I have to agree. But the Fanta's post appears to apply to ALL cases. There are cases where there is a more definite outcome between western medicinal treatment and not. sometimes modern medicines is needed...sometimes it's not necessary (as adj says) what do I know lol |
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Edited by
DaveyB
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Sat 05/16/09 01:26 PM
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An example for what I mentioned above might be a child who has a kidney that is about to rupture. Modern medicine is all but a virtual guarantee of a cure. The lack of it is certain death. Does the parent have the right to refuse?
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IMO...if adults want to treat themselves with alternativ emeds only...then they have that right...as far as kids, I would do all I could as a mom. so I don't know where the government should jump in or not. when does it interfere with people's right to beliefs?
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An example for what I mentioned above might be a child who has a kidney that is about to rupture. Modern medicine is all but a virtual guarantee of a cure. The lack of it is certain death. Does the parent have the right to refuse? yes unless the govt takes the kid and puts them in foster care when you let govt dictate how one lives life you no longer have a life it is a law prohibiting the practice there of (religion) and it is unconstitutional and that should put an end to it |
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