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Are you going to post facts and debate or complain and make stuff up all night?
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Are you?
Here... just as you, I will post an article written by another, I am not sure who you regard as a trustworthy source for jobs, wall street, and the economy... How about The Wall Street Journal? Dumbass... President George W. Bush entered office in 2001, and is preparing to leave in the middle of a long recession. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office. His job-creation record won’t look much better. The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton’s administration and only slightly better than President George H.W. Bush did in his four years in office. Here’s a look at job creation under each president since the Labor Department started keeping payroll records in 1939. The counts are based on total payrolls between the start of the month the president took office (using the final payroll count for the end of the prior December) and his final December in office. Because the size of the economy and labor force varies, we also calculate in percentage terms how much the total payroll count expanded under each president. The current President Bush, once taking account how long he’s been in office, shows the worst track record for job creation since the government began keeping records The Wall Street Journal.. Got a better source for that which you speak of? |
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Geeesh, run away after one little negation?
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If you knew what you know now..... Would You have voted for George Bush?  Now youre crying because he spent all of YOUR money on the war.
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Another...
Politicians like to cherry-pick statistics that best fit their political agenda. When it comes to the current jobs situation, however, the Bush administration is out of luck. Two government surveys measure employment. The payroll survey collects data from 400,000 employers and is the source of the official employment figures that are reported at the beginning of each month. The household survey, as its name suggests, collects its data from about 60,000 households. Both paint the picture of a recovery with the worst job creation record since the end of World War II. The administration wants the public to believe the economy is strong and jobs are being created. So it has tried to muddy the issue by highlighting the slightly better trends in the household survey since the beginning of the recovery in November 2001. Its argument is simply bad economics. Nonpartisan experts including the Bureau of Labor Statistics (the people who compile both sets of numbers), the Congressional Budget Office and the President’s Council of Economic Advisers are unanimous that the payroll survey provides the better measure of employment trends. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan concurs. He testified before the Senate Banking Committee on Feb. 12 that “the payroll series is the more accurate number.” The payroll survey is better because it is much larger, it is checked annually against unemployment insurance tax records (in contrast to every 10 years for the household survey) and it is less likely to be subject to large revisions or misreporting. The payroll survey shows that employment has fallen by 718,000 since the recovery began. Michigan alone lost 2.7 percent of its jobs in this “recovery.” The administration’s supporters counter that the payroll survey doesn’t include growth in entrepreneurship and doesn’t fully capture employment in new firms. Even so, the household survey, including the self-employed, shows record low average yearly employment growth — only 0.6 percent since the beginning of the recovery. The claim that employment is at a record high is cherry-picking at its most blatant, an attempt to find improvements that are simply not there. Yes, the number of working people has grown, but population has grown faster. In fact, employment has grown only half as fast as what’s needed just to keep even with population growth. Failing to find solace in the employment numbers, the administration points instead to the 5.6 percent unemployment rate. Although the unemployment rate has fallen, it has happened because record numbers of people have abandoned the search for jobs that don’t exist. Long-term unemployment is at a peak compared to the same point in the previous four recessions. In February, nearly one-fourth of unemployed people had been out of work at least six months. The average unemployment spell is 20.3 weeks, the longest average unemployment duration in more than 20 years. Even Wall Street economists at J.P Morgan agree that the unemployment rate “misrepresents the underlying state of the job market.” The percentage of working-age people in the labor market — that is, those who are working or looking for work — has dropped to its lowest rate in over 15 years. Contrary to conventional wisdom, J.P. Morgan economists claim that “the latest data indicate that more men than women have been pulling out of the labor force.” Goldman Sachs paints an even bleaker picture of today’s slack labor market, noting that if the same proportion of people were in the labor market today as there were seeking work in March 2001, the unemployment rate would be 7.4 percent. A close look at the payroll and household surveys shows very few cherries to pick. Since both tell political bad news, we should get back to good economics. Instead of trying to convince the public that bad news is really good news, the administration should be focusing on the problem at hand: an economy that isn’t generating enough jobs. |
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Yeah!
Bush's administration was great for everyone who already had more money than they knew what to do with... Those who do not need a job... Jeeez... |
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From the man himself...
The 50 Dumbest Bush Quotes of All Time . . . A compendium of idiotic and maniacal utterances by President Bush, 2000-2008” 50. “I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn’t here.” --at the President’s Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002 49. “We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease.” --Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001 48. “You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.” -Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 47. “I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport.” --Washington, D.C., Oct. 3, 2001 46. “Tribal sovereignty means that; it’s sovereign. I mean, you’re a – you’ve been given sovereignty, and you’re viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities.” --Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip) 45. “I couldn’t imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah.” --at a White House menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., Dec. 10, 2001 (Listen to audio clip) 44. “You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror.” --interview with CBS News’ Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006 43. “The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones who attacked us in America on September the 11th.” --Washington, D.C., July 12, 2007 42. “I’m the commander -- see, I don’t need to explain -- I do not need to explain why I say things. That’s the interesting thing about being president.” --as quoted in Bob Woodward’s Bush at War 41. “Oh, no, we’re not going to have any casualties.” --discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson in 2003, as quoted by Robertson 40. 3. “I think I was unprepared for war.” –on the biggest regret of his presidency, ABC News interview, Dec. 1, 2008 39. “I will not withdraw, even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me.” --talking to key Republicans about Iraq, as quoted by Bob Woodward 38. “I hear there’s rumors on the Internets that we’re going to have a draft.” --presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Watch video clip) 37. “I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family.” --Greater Nashua, N.H., Chamber of Commerce, Jan. 27, 2000 (Listen to audio clip) 36. “Do you have blacks, too?” --to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001 35. “This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating.” --as quoted by the New York Daily News, April 23, 2002 34. “I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.” --on “Good Morning America,” Sept. 1, 2005, six days after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected from Hurricane Katrina 33. “I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.” --Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000 32. “I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5 pound largemouth bass in my lake.” --on his best moment in office, interview with the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag, May 7, 2006 31. “They misunderestimated me.” --Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000 30. “For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It’s just unacceptable. And we’re going to do something about it.” --Philadelphia, Penn., May 14, 2001 29. “This is an impressive crowd -- the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite -- I call you my base.” --at the 2000 Al Smith dinner 28. “Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.” --LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000 27. “I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe -- I believe what I believe is right.” --Rome, Italy, July 22, 2001 26. “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” --Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005 (Listen to audio clip) 25. “People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in’s house and say I love you.” --Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002 24. “I wish you’d have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it...I’m sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn’t yet...I don’t want to sound like I have made no mistakes. I’m confident I have. I just haven’t -- you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I’m not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one.” --after being asked to name the biggest mistake he had made, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2004 23. “You forgot Poland.” --to Sen. John Kerry during the first presidential debate, after Kerry failed to mention Poland’s contributions to the Iraq war coalition, Miami, Fla., Sept. 30, 2004 22. “Goodbye from the world’s biggest polluter.” --in parting words to world leaders at his final G-8 Summit, punching the air and grinning widely as those present looked on in shock, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008 21. “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.” --State of the Union Address, Jan. 28, 2003, making a claim that administration officials knew at the time to be false 20. “The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him.” --Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001 19. “I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.” --Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002 18. “So what?” –President Bush, responding to a an ABC News correspondent who pointed out that Al Qaeda wasn’t a threat in Iraq until after the U.S. invaded, Dec. 14, 2008 17. “Can we win? I don’t think you can win it.” --after being asked whether the war on terror was winnable, “Today” show interview, Aug. 30, 2004 16. “I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we’re really talking about peace.” --Washington, D.C. June 18, 2002 15. “I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.” --to a group of Amish he met with privately, July 9, 2004 14. “Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed.” --speaking underneath a “Mission Accomplished” banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1, 2003 13. “We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories ... And we’ll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven’t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they’re wrong, we found them.” --Washington, D.C., May 30, 2003 12. “Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere!” --joking about his administration’s failure to find WMDs in Iraq as he narrated a comic slideshow during the Radio & TV Correspondents’ Association dinner, Washington, D.C., March 24, 2004 (Read more) 11. “I’ll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office.” --Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008 10. “Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?” --Florence, South Carolina, Jan. 11, 2000 9. “As yesterday’s positive report card shows, childrens do learn when standards are high and results are measured.” --on the No Child Left Behind Act, Washington, D.C., Sept. 26, 2007 (Watch video clip) 8. “If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.” --Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000 (Listen to audio clip) 7. “I’m the decider, and I decide what is best. And what’s best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense.” --Washington, D.C. April 18, 2006 (Read more; listen to audio clip; watch video clip) 6. “There’s an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on --shame on you. Fool me -- you can’t get fooled again.” --Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 (Watch video clip) 5. “Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren’t able to practice their love with women all across this country.” --Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip) 4. “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” --Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip) 3. “You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn’t it? I mean, that is fantastic that you’re doing that.” --to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005 (Listen to audio clip) 2. “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.” --to FEMA director Michael Brown, who resigned 10 days later amid criticism over his handling of the Hurricane Katrina debacle, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Listen to audio clip; watch video clip) 1. “My answer is bring them on.” --on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003 Yeah, what a responsible and fantastic president!  Flucking idiots! |
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Edited by
ArtGurl
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Fri 05/15/09 01:38 AM
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 Although in many ways I thought he was a complete baboon ... and believe the war to be a complete atrocity ... he did offer more foreign aid than several of your presidents combined did he not? ...of course the carnage in other areas is astronomical ...  |
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I'd have to agree with Monier on this one. How do you know how the others would have done?
To answer the question, I would say yes. I come to my conclusion by looking at the other choices we could have had(and yes I'm just going with the 2 major parties) Al Gore  John Kerry I couldnt bring myself to vote for either one of them.
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Geeesh, run away after one little negation? |
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considering the alternatives, Gore and Kerry, yes I would have voted for Bush again
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I didn't vote for him in the first place, so of course I wouldn't vote for him after knowing more about him.
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NO!
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no...
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i guess it would depend on the candidate he was running against
after all the president cant be wrong (just ask miss california) |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Fri 05/15/09 06:40 AM
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If you knew what you know now..... Would You have voted for George Bush? I voted for him the first time. I pretty much did know what I know now about him half way through his first term. I voted for Kerry in 04. Now I will never vote for another Republican, ever. Not even one running as a local official assigned to the lowliest elected position around. |
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If you knew what you know now..... Would You have voted for George Bush? Now youre crying because he spent all of YOUR money on the war. 
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i guess it would depend on the candidate he was running against after all the president cant be wrong (just ask miss california)
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Edited by
Giocamo
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Fri 05/15/09 09:02 AM
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If you knew what you know now..... Would You have voted for George Bush? absolutely...ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....for " W ".... 
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The Bush years were a prime example of what happens when a man who lived a sheltered life is elected. The election results themselves were probably not a surprise to him. He expected to win, afterall, he had never truly earned anything else either. Riding on Daddy's coat-tails throughout his career, the man was never held to a standard of accountability or personal merit.
Someone else had always cleaned up the mess that little Georgie had made. He was too dumb to be a puppet which acted according to the puppeteer's movement of strings. The guy had no self-confidence, rightfully so, because he had never truly acheived anything through his own hard work or merit; A shining example of what happens when a dumbass rich kid buys an education... the inheritance factor at it's worst. There is another issue which needs to be addressed. The need for the president to be an effective problem solver is one which goes untested before the elections... WHY? The election system in place distracts the population along lines of social classes in general. Why do we, as Americans, not demand that there be some forms of cognitive functioning assessment? I want to know how well the candidates understand. I want to know the cognitive abilities and thought tendencies of each. I want to know why any candidate is even allowed to have another person write their responses and speeches. WHY? We elect a candidate based upon words which come through their mouthes... we should elect a candidate based upon thoughts that come from their own minds. What say you? |
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