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Edited by
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If you live in British Columbia, the upcoming election is pretty important - be informed! Most don't know about the privatization of power plan and its impact on our ecology and our pocketbooks.
I tend to stay out of politics - I guess they made me mad enough ... www.saveourrivers.ca http://saveourrivers.tv/powerplay_player5.html |
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If you live in British Columbia, the upcoming election is pretty important - be informed! Most don't know about the privatization of power plan and its impact on our ecology and our pocketbooks. I tend to stay out of politics - I guess they made me mad enough ... www.saveourrivers.ca http://saveourrivers.tv/powerplay_player5.html  Darlin, most of us Americans dont even know where that is(I do).
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British Columbia?
is that in South America? |
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British Columbia? is that in South America? I thought it was part of England! 
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i thought that was
the part of columbia unversity that is in britian 
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If you live in British Columbia, the upcoming election is pretty important - be informed! Most don't know about the privatization of power plan and its impact on our ecology and our pocketbooks. I tend to stay out of politics - I guess they made me mad enough ... www.saveourrivers.ca http://saveourrivers.tv/powerplay_player5.html The only way to save the river is to privatize it. Read up on "tragedy of commons". That explains the major idea. When you come to reading about "externalities", disregard them. Externalities are simply excuses that the left injected in economics. There are no such thing as externality. |
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Eh!I love British Columbia.I used to go there every other week.But it is run by a bunch of Liberals so nothing they do there is going to make any sense.If you don't want idiots running the country try electing people who aren't liberals.
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Howdy, BC. I have relatives up yonder in Vancouver.
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Edited by
ArtGurl
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Sat 05/02/09 06:32 PM
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Quiet, Fanta, Adj - for gawdsakes men ... will you pull out an atlas
Mirror would you please point it out to them ...
Nogames: I cannot see how privatizing power and giving away water rights to foreign companies is a positive thing regardless of the colour of glasses I try to look through. Energy is currently produced at $5 KwH ... under privatization it is expected to rise to $100. Profits are not currently being funnelled back into existing infrastructure so existing dams are only running at half capacity. So the privatization plan involves giving water rights away for every river that will support a dam in the lower half of the province. Price of power skyrockets to pay for all of this new development which destroys the local ecology. Adams River is the site of one of the largest salmon runs in the world - salmon have spawned here for centuries ... oh well... The white water tourism industry (kayaking and rafting) is huge here ... kiss it goodbye. Agreements with big corporations only last 10-20 years then what ... Then the corporations own the water rights and the infrastructure and can sell the power to whomever they want for whatever they want...FOREVER... So we could very well be sitting in a northern Canadian winter and not be able to afford power. I get the argument that left to our own devices some people will not do the right thing and mess it up for everyone, however, there are current government regulations and governing bodies in place. Why this current government is giving the rivers away under the cover of secrecy is quite telling. If this were a good thing then there would be no need for secrecy. It reminds me of the scenarios happening all over the world with drinking water. Large corporations get the water rights for next to nothing ... build a dam ... displace people and then charge them more for water than they can afford leaving them to drink from feces infested waters. This is happening in India and many other poorer countries ... but we are not immune here in North America. Nestle - bottlers of Nestle Pure Water has obtained the rights to the river a few hours away at Hope, BC ... they'll build a dam and flood areas and cause draught in others - pull hundreds of thousands of gallons of water from the river a day ... Big corporations do not have the interest of the people or the interest of the environment factored in to their pocketbooks. Big business is notorious for its disregard for environment and regulations. I have friends who worked for Weyerhaeuser for years. They had tanks with fish in them to show the water was safe before it was released back into the river ... the fish ALWAYS died!!! And the inspectors always made appointments so fresh fish were ready to be inspected. In the river, mutations and cancers on fish were common...but that had nothing to do with Weyerhaeuser ... 
Sorry, I don't see privatization as a benefit at all. Willing - Vancouver is a beautiful city - I live about 3.5 hours northeast of there ... it is a pretty part of the world! |
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Few people know how much old growth timber they are cutting down on Vancouver island.Trees 400 feet tall and hundreds of years old.I am not either for or against it since Canada has so much isolated and inaccessible land.A lot of times the wind blows these trees over.It's a real shame how many people have never seen the Fraiser canyon or other beautiful places in Canada which I believe are the most beautiful in the world.
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Few people know how much old growth timber they are cutting down on Vancouver island.Trees 400 feet tall and hundreds of years old.I am not either for or against it since Canada has so much isolated and inaccessible land.A lot of times the wind blows these trees over.It's a real shame how many people have never seen the Fraiser canyon or other beautiful places in Canada which I believe are the most beautiful in the world. It is a beautiful country with vistas to rival any in the world. It is a shame what is happening with the pine beetle ... much of beautiful BC is now brown ... 
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i know where it is ma'am
i was being an artful dodger
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Quiet, Fanta, Adj - for gawdsakes men ... will you pull out an atlas Mirror would you please point it out to them ...
Nogames: I cannot see how privatizing power and giving away water rights to foreign companies is a positive thing regardless of the colour of glasses I try to look through. Energy is currently produced at $5 KwH ... under privatization it is expected to rise to $100. Profits are not currently being funnelled back into existing infrastructure so existing dams are only running at half capacity. So the privatization plan involves giving water rights away for every river that will support a dam in the lower half of the province. Price of power skyrockets to pay for all of this new development which destroys the local ecology. Adams River is the site of one of the largest salmon runs in the world - salmon have spawned here for centuries ... oh well... The white water tourism industry (kayaking and rafting) is huge here ... kiss it goodbye. Agreements with big corporations only last 10-20 years then what ... Then the corporations own the water rights and the infrastructure and can sell the power to whomever they want for whatever they want...FOREVER... So we could very well be sitting in a northern Canadian winter and not be able to afford power. I get the argument that left to our own devices some people will not do the right thing and mess it up for everyone, however, there are current government regulations and governing bodies in place. Why this current government is giving the rivers away under the cover of secrecy is quite telling. If this were a good thing then there would be no need for secrecy. It reminds me of the scenarios happening all over the world with drinking water. Large corporations get the water rights for next to nothing ... build a dam ... displace people and then charge them more for water than they can afford leaving them to drink from feces infested waters. This is happening in India and many other poorer countries ... but we are not immune here in North America. Nestle - bottlers of Nestle Pure Water has obtained the rights to the river a few hours away at Hope, BC ... they'll build a dam and flood areas and cause draught in others - pull hundreds of thousands of gallons of water from the river a day ... Big corporations do not have the interest of the people or the interest of the environment factored in to their pocketbooks. Big business is notorious for its disregard for environment and regulations. I have friends who worked for Weyerhaeuser for years. They had tanks with fish in them to show the water was safe before it was released back into the river ... the fish ALWAYS died!!! And the inspectors always made appointments so fresh fish were ready to be inspected. In the river, mutations and cancers on fish were common...but that had nothing to do with Weyerhaeuser ...
Sorry, I don't see privatization as a benefit at all. Willing - Vancouver is a beautiful city - I live about 3.5 hours northeast of there ... it is a pretty part of the world! Very well said and I couldnt agree more! Privatization helps no one except the corp. It never keeps prices down and always results in a neglect for the environment! What can we do as Americans though? We have our own plates full here and no vote in Canada. |
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Quiet, Fanta, Adj - for gawdsakes men ... will you pull out an atlas Mirror would you please point it out to them ...
Nogames: I cannot see how privatizing power and giving away water rights to foreign companies is a positive thing regardless of the colour of glasses I try to look through. Energy is currently produced at $5 KwH ... under privatization it is expected to rise to $100. Profits are not currently being funnelled back into existing infrastructure so existing dams are only running at half capacity. So the privatization plan involves giving water rights away for every river that will support a dam in the lower half of the province. Price of power skyrockets to pay for all of this new development which destroys the local ecology. Adams River is the site of one of the largest salmon runs in the world - salmon have spawned here for centuries ... oh well... The white water tourism industry (kayaking and rafting) is huge here ... kiss it goodbye. Agreements with big corporations only last 10-20 years then what ... Then the corporations own the water rights and the infrastructure and can sell the power to whomever they want for whatever they want...FOREVER... So we could very well be sitting in a northern Canadian winter and not be able to afford power. I get the argument that left to our own devices some people will not do the right thing and mess it up for everyone, however, there are current government regulations and governing bodies in place. Why this current government is giving the rivers away under the cover of secrecy is quite telling. If this were a good thing then there would be no need for secrecy. It reminds me of the scenarios happening all over the world with drinking water. Large corporations get the water rights for next to nothing ... build a dam ... displace people and then charge them more for water than they can afford leaving them to drink from feces infested waters. This is happening in India and many other poorer countries ... but we are not immune here in North America. Nestle - bottlers of Nestle Pure Water has obtained the rights to the river a few hours away at Hope, BC ... they'll build a dam and flood areas and cause draught in others - pull hundreds of thousands of gallons of water from the river a day ... Big corporations do not have the interest of the people or the interest of the environment factored in to their pocketbooks. Big business is notorious for its disregard for environment and regulations. I have friends who worked for Weyerhaeuser for years. They had tanks with fish in them to show the water was safe before it was released back into the river ... the fish ALWAYS died!!! And the inspectors always made appointments so fresh fish were ready to be inspected. In the river, mutations and cancers on fish were common...but that had nothing to do with Weyerhaeuser ...
Sorry, I don't see privatization as a benefit at all. Willing - Vancouver is a beautiful city - I live about 3.5 hours northeast of there ... it is a pretty part of the world! Very well said and I couldnt agree more! Privatization helps no one except the corp. It never keeps prices down and always results in a neglect for the environment! What can we do as Americans though? We have our own plates full here and no vote in Canada. 
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Quiet, Fanta, Adj - for gawdsakes men ... will you pull out an atlas Mirror would you please point it out to them ...
Nogames: I cannot see how privatizing power and giving away water rights to foreign companies is a positive thing regardless of the colour of glasses I try to look through. Energy is currently produced at $5 KwH ... under privatization it is expected to rise to $100. Profits are not currently being funnelled back into existing infrastructure so existing dams are only running at half capacity. So the privatization plan involves giving water rights away for every river that will support a dam in the lower half of the province. Price of power skyrockets to pay for all of this new development which destroys the local ecology. Adams River is the site of one of the largest salmon runs in the world - salmon have spawned here for centuries ... oh well... The white water tourism industry (kayaking and rafting) is huge here ... kiss it goodbye. Agreements with big corporations only last 10-20 years then what ... Then the corporations own the water rights and the infrastructure and can sell the power to whomever they want for whatever they want...FOREVER... So we could very well be sitting in a northern Canadian winter and not be able to afford power. I get the argument that left to our own devices some people will not do the right thing and mess it up for everyone, however, there are current government regulations and governing bodies in place. Why this current government is giving the rivers away under the cover of secrecy is quite telling. If this were a good thing then there would be no need for secrecy. It reminds me of the scenarios happening all over the world with drinking water. Large corporations get the water rights for next to nothing ... build a dam ... displace people and then charge them more for water than they can afford leaving them to drink from feces infested waters. This is happening in India and many other poorer countries ... but we are not immune here in North America. Nestle - bottlers of Nestle Pure Water has obtained the rights to the river a few hours away at Hope, BC ... they'll build a dam and flood areas and cause draught in others - pull hundreds of thousands of gallons of water from the river a day ... Big corporations do not have the interest of the people or the interest of the environment factored in to their pocketbooks. Big business is notorious for its disregard for environment and regulations. I have friends who worked for Weyerhaeuser for years. They had tanks with fish in them to show the water was safe before it was released back into the river ... the fish ALWAYS died!!! And the inspectors always made appointments so fresh fish were ready to be inspected. In the river, mutations and cancers on fish were common...but that had nothing to do with Weyerhaeuser ...
Sorry, I don't see privatization as a benefit at all. Willing - Vancouver is a beautiful city - I live about 3.5 hours northeast of there ... it is a pretty part of the world! Very well said and I couldnt agree more! Privatization helps no one except the corp. It never keeps prices down and always results in a neglect for the environment! What can we do as Americans though? We have our own plates full here and no vote in Canada. It was more a heads up to Canadians in BC ... I am pretty sure there is more than Gypsy, Seahawk and I on this site ... errrrr I think anyway ... somewhere in the land of the lurking
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