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Topic: You Get What you Are.....More on Law of Attraction
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Mon 04/27/09 03:19 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/27/09 03:22 PM
For example: I might want a house that costs a million dollars.

If I say to myself that I cannot afford it, this might logically make sense and be true but it does nothing towards getting the house. In fact, this limiting belief would cause me to give up the dream and not even try to acquire this house.

But if I say to myself, I can have that house, I can make it happen and if I intend to have that house, I will begin to take action that towards getting that house or getting the income to afford that house. If I keep my attention and intention on that I will get that house or even a better house. If I give up, I will have given in to the thought that "I can't" or "I can't afford that and never will be able to afford it."

But there are many people who have come from poverty to owning even more than one house worth millions each.

If they can do this, then so can anyone. They are not just "lucky" they believed and intended and took actions that brought to them what they wanted.


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Mon 04/27/09 03:28 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/27/09 03:29 PM
It's simply a recognition that life isn't the utopia that we would all like it to be.


That is a belief. Your beliefs perpetuate your reality. Life may not be a utopia for you. It may be for someone else who believes it so.

Clearly if she's divorced there must have been a time when she was less than pleased with her life's situation as well.


Of course, and I changed it. How many men and women have spent their lives in a miserable marriage? Many.

There is no reason to live in misery. If you don't like your life, change it. If you don't think you can change your life, then examine your beliefs about that and work on changing them.


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Mon 04/27/09 03:33 PM

For example: I might want a house that costs a million dollars.

If I say to myself that I cannot afford it, this might logically make sense and be true but it does nothing towards getting the house. In fact, this limiting belief would cause me to give up the dream and not even try to acquire this house.

But if I say to myself, I can have that house, I can make it happen and if I intend to have that house, I will begin to take action that towards getting that house or getting the income to afford that house. If I keep my attention and intention on that I will get that house or even a better house. If I give up, I will have given in to the thought that "I can't" or "I can't afford that and never will be able to afford it."

But there are many people who have come from poverty to owning even more than one house worth millions each.

If they can do this, then so can anyone. They are not just "lucky" they believed and intended and took actions that brought to them what they wanted.




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Mon 04/27/09 04:19 PM

There is no reason to live in misery. If you don't like your life, change it. If you don't think you can change your life, then examine your beliefs about that and work on changing them.


A agree with this 100%

But what does this have to do with the "Law of Attraction"?

You don't need a Law of Attraction to be in effect to change your life. ohwell

You act like if someone doesn't beleive in the Law of Attraction they must be completely helpless dust in the wind.

That's totally false.

A person doens't need to believe in any Law of Attaction to believe that they can take steps to change their life.

Also just because a person doesn't believe in the Law of Attraction doesn't imply that they believe they have NO CONTROL over anything at all.

Thats absurd.

You act like anyone who doesn't believe in the Law of Attraction is a compeltely helpless person who just sits around and whines about life.

You say about your divorce:

Of course, and I changed it. How many men and women have spent their lives in a miserable marriage? Many.


So?

There must be millions of women out there who took actions to change undesirable relationship. The vast majority of them probably never even heard of any Law of Attraction!

Moreover, I would suggest that if some Law of Attraction were actually in effect that cases LIKE to attract LIKE, there wouldn't be millions of women in that predicament in the FIRST PLACE!

The fact that so many people end up in bad relationships should be proof positive that there is no such things as LIKE attracting LIKE.

I think that vividly shows that no such Law of Attraction exists in this universe. For if it did more people would be attracting COMPATIBLE mates!

So the whole thing seems to prove that no Law of Attraction is operating in the unviverse. Otherwise people would need to be working HARD to OVERCOME IT and end up in miserable situations!

We'd actually need to WORK against any such LAW if it existed.

Clearly it's got to be a farce.

That's just where the overwhelming evidence points. :wink:

We'd have to be working HARD against it if any such law actually existed.


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Mon 04/27/09 04:38 PM
That is okay run right over me. Don't mind my questions I ask a few posts early at alllaugh laugh


will you at least pass the mashed potatoes or somethingdrinker

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Mon 04/27/09 04:43 PM

1.)But what does this have to do with the "Law of Attraction"?

You don't need a Law of Attraction to be in effect to change your life.

2.)You act like if someone doesn't beleive in the Law of Attraction they must be completely helpless dust in the wind.



1.)It has everything to do with it.. because thoughts and beliefs, create reality.

Thoughts are mind stuff and reality arises from the mind. The mind arises from the core of your being.


2.) You don't have to "believe" in the law of Attraction. It is in effect whether or not you "believe" it or not.

(And If you are completely helpless it is because you "believe" you are completely helpless.)

Perhaps you just don't like the term "LAW" laugh :wink:




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Mon 04/27/09 04:46 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/27/09 04:46 PM

The question is are there supernatural abilities that we can use or have to control our lives and destinies and maybe even other lives at will? Is this "law of attraction" an ability that we once had or something we can really use if we know its secrets, or is it nothing more then the figmentation of our imagination again?

Some say yes and some say no.

What is your opinion?


smiless

The abilities we have are Not "supernatural" they are natural.

I will say that the Law of Attraction is the natural order of creation. All creation arises from the core of being... consciousness. First the mind.... then thought and belief.

Each thinking center creates...itself and its own reality.


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Mon 04/27/09 04:47 PM


The question is are there supernatural abilities that we can use or have to control our lives and destinies and maybe even other lives at will? Is this "law of attraction" an ability that we once had or something we can really use if we know its secrets, or is it nothing more then the figmentation of our imagination again?

Some say yes and some say no.

What is your opinion?


smiless

The abilities we have are Not "supernatural" they are natural.

I will say that the Law of Attraction is the natural order of creation. All creation arises from the core of being... consciousness. First the mind.... then thought and belief.

Each thinking center creates...itself and its own reality.




Could the law of attraction be nothing more then Emotional Intelligence in the end?

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Mon 04/27/09 04:53 PM
The whole responsiblity issue that JB keeps throwing in everyone's face seems to me to totally be in denial of any so-called "Law of Attraction" anyway.

If there really was a "Law of Attraction" then we'd just get what we attract. Responsiblity wouldn't even be an issue!


On the other hand, if she wants to claim that we can only change things if we take the responsiblity to actively do something about it that seems to fly in the very face that there is some mysterious "Law of Attraction" at work.

Cleary if we are required to get off our butts and "Make things Happen" then why would we even need a "Law of Attraction"?

Why don't we just call it the "Law of Responsiblity to Take Control of Your Own Life".

And be done with it.

Why even bother with some mysterious "Law of Attraction" if the bottom line is that we must "Take Action to Do it Ourselves".

It doesn't make any sense.

In what way would any so-called "Law of Attraction" even be needed in that case? huh

What would responsiblity have to do with any belief in any "Law of Attraction".

If there is no Law of Attraction would we then not have any responisblity? huh

Why do we need a Law of Attraction to take responsibilty for our own actions?

And please keep in mind that JB has already confessed that we are not responsible for the actions of others.

Wouldn't we automatically be responsible for our own actions whether any Law of Attraction exists or not?

I just don't get these continuous unwarranted accusations that people who don't believe in the "Law of Attraction" are shirking responsiblity.

This sounds like the same kind of religious crap taht we get from the Christians who claim that anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible is rejecting God. laugh

If you don't believe in the Law of Attraction you're IRRESPONSIBLE!

So claims the Fire and Brimstone Preacher of the Law of Attraction!

laugh laugh laugh

This is truly too much like religious proselytizing. ohwell

Oh, by the way, here's the mash potatoes John, would you like some gravy too?


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Mon 04/27/09 04:53 PM

Perhaps Emotional Intelligence is the true key to success. To be able to adapt to changes quickly to survive the many different paths we take in our lifetimes.

Perhaps the laws of attraction is nothing more then the laws of emotional intelligence?

I almost picked up a book the last time I went to the bookstore on "Emotional Intelligence". I should have done it just to see what the term emotional intelligence really covers.



The key to "success" is to know and decide exactly what you want and then take the necessary steps within your means to achieve it.

The shortest distance between two point is a strait line. Focus on what you want, and not what you don't want.

Do not observe things that you do not want. Instead, use your will to direct your thoughts and attention to the thing or things that you want to create and believe that they are yours.

Envision the person you want to be, the life you want to live, the thing you want to have. Intend to have it. Make room for it in your life. Intend, don't just wish or hope or dream.

That is all the law of attraction is. It is not magic. It is the natural creative process from the quantum level to your known reality.






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Mon 04/27/09 04:57 PM

The whole responsiblity issue that JB keeps throwing in everyone's face seems to me to totally be in denial of any so-called "Law of Attraction" anyway.

If there really was a "Law of Attraction" then we'd just get what we attract. Responsiblity wouldn't even be an issue!


On the other hand, if she wants to claim that we can only change things if we take the responsiblity to actively do something about it that seems to fly in the very face that there is some mysterious "Law of Attraction" at work.

Cleary if we are required to get off our butts and "Make things Happen" then why would we even need a "Law of Attraction"?

Why don't we just call it the "Law of Responsiblity to Take Control of Your Own Life".

And be done with it.

Why even bother with some mysterious "Law of Attraction" if the bottom line is that we must "Take Action to Do it Ourselves".

It doesn't make any sense.

In what way would any so-called "Law of Attraction" even be needed in that case? huh

What would responsiblity have to do with any belief in any "Law of Attraction".

If there is no Law of Attraction would we then not have any responisblity? huh

Why do we need a Law of Attraction to take responsibilty for our own actions?

And please keep in mind that JB has already confessed that we are not responsible for the actions of others.

Wouldn't we automatically be responsible for our own actions whether any Law of Attraction exists or not?

I just don't get these continuous unwarranted accusations that people who don't believe in the "Law of Attraction" are shirking responsiblity.

This sounds like the same kind of religious crap taht we get from the Christians who claim that anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible is rejecting God. laugh

If you don't believe in the Law of Attraction you're IRRESPONSIBLE!

So claims the Fire and Brimstone Preacher of the Law of Attraction!

laugh laugh laugh

This is truly too much like religious proselytizing. ohwell

Oh, by the way, here's the mash potatoes John, would you like some gravy too?




I wonder if one can compare the law of attraction with just emotional intelligence. Could both be pretty much the same in th end?

Thanks I will take some gravy also thankyoulaugh

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Mon 04/27/09 04:58 PM


Perhaps Emotional Intelligence is the true key to success. To be able to adapt to changes quickly to survive the many different paths we take in our lifetimes.

Perhaps the laws of attraction is nothing more then the laws of emotional intelligence?

I almost picked up a book the last time I went to the bookstore on "Emotional Intelligence". I should have done it just to see what the term emotional intelligence really covers.



The key to "success" is to know and decide exactly what you want and then take the necessary steps within your means to achieve it.

The shortest distance between two point is a strait line. Focus on what you want, and not what you don't want.

Do not observe things that you do not want. Instead, use your will to direct your thoughts and attention to the thing or things that you want to create and believe that they are yours.

Envision the person you want to be, the life you want to live, the thing you want to have. Intend to have it. Make room for it in your life. Intend, don't just wish or hope or dream.

That is all the law of attraction is. It is not magic. It is the natural creative process from the quantum level to your known reality.








Sounds very logical Jeannie, but couldn't one say they are using emotional intelligence in the end. Afterall good street smarts seem to keep people afloat in today's society and the ones who have more of it gain more on it.

What say you?

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Mon 04/27/09 04:59 PM

1.)It has everything to do with it.. because thoughts and beliefs, create reality.

Thoughts are mind stuff and reality arises from the mind. The mind arises from the core of your being.


Well, I would personally LOVE to beleive that Jeannie. And in fact, I have tried VERY HARD to believe this a various times in my life. In fact, I even still continue to pretend that it might be true just to humor myself.

But in all honesty this universe just hasn't lived up to this ideal.

If my thoughts and beliefs truly created my reality I'd be living in a lush storybook forest with all sorts of wonderful fairies and leprechauns all around me.

The fact is that while such a world would be great. It's just not the world we live in. Unfortunately.

It's a great dream though! I will grant you that much! drinker



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Mon 04/27/09 05:07 PM

The key to "success" is to know and decide exactly what you want and then take the necessary steps within your means to achieve it.

The shortest distance between two point is a strait line. Focus on what you want, and not what you don't want.

Do not observe things that you do not want. Instead, use your will to direct your thoughts and attention to the thing or things that you want to create and believe that they are yours.

Envision the person you want to be, the life you want to live, the thing you want to have. Intend to have it. Make room for it in your life. Intend, don't just wish or hope or dream.

That is all the law of attraction is. It is not magic. It is the natural creative process from the quantum level to your known reality.


Well this is a far cry from claming that we attract EVERYTHING that happens to us into our lives!

I don't know why anyone would call this the "Law of Attraction".

Just call it a "Good Plan" and go for it. drinker

No need to invent a new philosophy over it. whoa

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Mon 04/27/09 05:09 PM
Definitions of Emotional intelligence on the Web:

Emotional Intelligence (EI), often measured as an Emotional Intelligence Quotient (EQ), describes an ability, capacity, skill or (in the case of the trait EI model) a self-perceived ability, to identify, assess, and manage the emotions of one's self, of others, and of groups. ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence

The awareness of and ability to manage one's emotions in a healthy and productive manner.

allpsych.com/dictionary/dictionary2.html

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Mon 04/27/09 05:13 PM
THATS the law of attraction? nah.. I dont believe that at all. We bring what we choose, sometimes it chooses us.. Everything in our lives is not based on attraction. I find that absurd. Sometimes we just want to learn about someone or something, sometimes, we want to experience something, same goes for others for us. I dont call that the "law of curiosity", it just is what it is.

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Mon 04/27/09 05:22 PM

THATS the law of attraction? nah.. I dont believe that at all. We bring what we choose, sometimes it chooses us.. Everything in our lives is not based on attraction. I find that absurd. Sometimes we just want to learn about someone or something, sometimes, we want to experience something, same goes for others for us. I dont call that the "law of curiosity", it just is what it is.


The "Law of Curiosity". laugh

Clever. bigsmile

I agree. It just is what it is. No need to turn it into a huge philosophical production about supposed "Laws of Reality".

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Mon 04/27/09 05:25 PM
Hilarious. Says something doesnt it? anyway, thanks Abracdabra.

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Mon 04/27/09 05:26 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/27/09 05:33 PM

The whole responsiblity issue that JB keeps throwing in everyone's face seems to me to totally be in denial of any so-called "Law of Attraction" anyway.

If there really was a "Law of Attraction" then we'd just get what we attract. Responsiblity wouldn't even be an issue!


Pardon me please but I do not throw anything in anyone's face. You chose to come into this thread and you insist on staying. Nobody is throwing anything in your face.:angry:




On the other hand, if she wants to claim that we can only change things if we take the responsiblity to actively do something about it that seems to fly in the very face that there is some mysterious "Law of Attraction" at work.


It is a good idea to take responsibility for your creations, because you can't change them if you don't know how you created them. If you don't have a clue how you create your current reality, you will have no clue how to create something that you want.



Cleary if we are required to get off our butts and "Make things Happen" then why would we even need a "Law of Attraction"?

Why don't we just call it the "Law of Responsiblity to Take Control of Your Own Life".

And be done with it.


Dear you can call it whatever you like and be done with it.



Why even bother with some mysterious "Law of Attraction" if the bottom line is that we must "Take Action to Do it Ourselves".

It doesn't make any sense.


That is not the bottom line. Many people do get off of their butts and attempt to create what they want but they fail. Others appear to do nothing much at all and they still succeed. The difference is the law of Attraction.



In what way would any so-called "Law of Attraction" even be needed in that case? huh

What would responsiblity have to do with any belief in any "Law of Attraction".

If there is no Law of Attraction would we then not have any responisblity? huh

Why do we need a Law of Attraction to take responsibilty for our own actions?


You don't need the law of attraction to take responsibility for your own actions and for your own creations and for your own experiences or circumstances. But when you claim that your are not responsible for your experiences or reality or circumstances, you are NOT taking responsibility for what you have created.

You cannot change what you have created until you realize how you created it in the first place so you will know how to stop creating it, and create something else.



And please keep in mind that JB has already confessed that we are not responsible for the actions of others.


You cannot create someone else's reality for them when they make use of their will to direct their own life. You cannot control what they think or do when they make use of their will to think and do as they choose.



Wouldn't we automatically be responsible for our own actions whether any Law of Attraction exists or not?


Yes you would and yes you are. But not everyone will take or claim that they are responsible. Instead, they say they are not, or that they have no control over the situation or circumstance or event, or it was an accident, or they are a victim, or they are just unlucky, or it was random chance.



I just don't get these continuous unwarranted accusations that people who don't believe in the "Law of Attraction" are shirking responsiblity.


It does not matter if you believe in the law of attraction or not, you can still deny responsibility for your lot in life no matter what you believe. You don't even have to know about the law of attraction.



This sounds like the same kind of religious crap taht we get from the Christians who claim that anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible is rejecting God. laugh

If you don't believe in the Law of Attraction you're IRRESPONSIBLE!



It has nothing to do with your belief in the Law of Attraction. You are irresponsible if you do not take responsibility for your life and your experiences and circumstances. Accept that you created or attracted it, learn how you did that, and then begin to create something you really want and stop creating what you don't want.

The Law of Attraction techniques are the creative techniques.

It is the Universal law of creation. It is how we create this holographic reality of light and sound.


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Mon 04/27/09 05:31 PM
This is all just some dude out there that wrote some book, or has a series of tapes perpetuating this vapid "infomercial" material at best.

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