Topic: 2012 cataclysmic changes from a polar shift
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Tue 04/21/09 03:22 PM

There are strange things happening in this solar system that have been documented. Something is happening. I don't know what but something.

But I believe the earth and this solar system will get through it and changes will happen gradually. There may be casualties, but there will also be survivors.

Anything could happen. The mega volcano in the Yellowstone National park could erupt.... it is due. That would destroy the United States.

I don't think that will happen though although it could. The earth's magnetic poles are also due to shift any time now. I don't know that that entails.

When the earth reaches the galactic equator of the Milky way perhaps the "magnetic" forces will tilt the earth or the entire solar system.

I think things are getting warmer not because of anything mankind is doing, but because of where our solar system his headed. On December 21, 2012 the sun will be at the galactic equator and will pass through to the other side of the galaxy. This will not happen all of a sudden. It will take years to get through this area.

There is a place called "the dark road" where there are no stars and no stars can be seen through this blackness. Nobody knows what is there or why no stars can be seen. That is where we are headed.




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Tue 04/21/09 04:37 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 04/21/09 04:38 PM


There are strange things happening in this solar system that have been documented. Something is happening. I don't know what but something.
So its documented, but you don't know what it is . . . .


But I believe the earth and this solar system will get through it and changes will happen gradually. There may be casualties, but there will also be survivors.
just wishful thinking or more documented stuff that isn't known?


Anything could happen. The mega volcano in the Yellowstone National park could erupt.... it is due. That would destroy the United States.
ANYTHING? Like purple glue could spout from my nose and cover the earth for all eternity?

As far as a volcano destroying the entire US, lol well no recorded volcano has EVER destroyed that much land mass, so that would be impressive indeed. Hope I get lots of time to watch it from here in Florida.


I don't think that will happen though although it could. The earth's magnetic poles are also due to shift any time now. I don't know that that entails.
It means magnetic north would now be magnetic south . . . . and thats it.


When the earth reaches the galactic equator of the Milky way perhaps the "magnetic" forces will tilt the earth or the entire solar system.
magnetic forces of what? It takes two opposing magnetic fields to create a force, perhaps even three to make a rotational force . . . sounds like more sci-fi to me.


I think things are getting warmer not because of anything mankind is doing, but because of where our solar system his headed. On December 21, 2012 the sun will be at the galactic equator and will pass through to the other side of the galaxy. This will not happen all of a sudden. It will take years to get through this area.
We have instruments that measure the amounts of radiation we receive . . . its not going up . . . warming is occurring due to a greenhouse effect, this is well studied at this point and deniers are just that, in denial.


There is a place called "the dark road" where there are no stars and no stars can be seen through this blackness. Nobody knows what is there or why no stars can be seen. That is where we are headed.
Id love a link, never heard of it. Unless its a black hole, and someone just decided they liked that spooky name . . . we have some pretty good, and interesting data on the supermassive black hole at our galaxies center, but again, that is the center . . . ie, not a region we will ever travel through on our solar system galactic rotation, that is of course becuase like every other solar system in the Milky way we are rotating around this super massive center of the galaxy.





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Tue 04/21/09 04:56 PM

It was only called the "dark road" by ancient astrologists or Myans. Its probably not a widely used term.

But scientists know about the area and some say it could be what they call "dark matter" but in any case you can't see any stars there. Maybe its just a place with no stars.... laugh But you would think you could see stars through it.... like on the other side. Anyway, our solar system is headed strait in that direction.

I said I don't think the mega volcano will do anything, I think the earth has enough of a balance of pressure and flow and heat to prevent that... but if it does happen and you are in florida, there will not be much left of you. That kind of thing could take out more than half of the United States.

I don't buy the stuff about global warming but who knows. If they are so sure about it then they should stop cutting down the rain forests.




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Tue 04/21/09 05:04 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 04/21/09 05:05 PM
When the earth reaches the galactic equator of the Milky way perhaps the "magnetic" forces will tilt the earth or the entire solar system.



magnetic forces of what? It takes two opposing magnetic fields to create a force, perhaps even three to make a rotational force . . . sounds like more sci-fi to me.



The milky way spins and is shaped sort of like a plate. (Like all spinning galaxies) On the outer edges of where it spins, that is where our solar system is traveling diagonally across that spinning equator. I don't know if you would call that "magnetic," forces... perhaps the word is "gravity." Something keeps the stars and planets and solar systems spinning around the center of the galaxy.

Our solar system is spinning at a different angle than the Milky way is spinning. That is because we are not originally part of the Mikly way galaxy. Our system was captured from another galaxy that collided with the Milky way.

These two different spinning angles (or directions?) might not be all that compatible on the outer edge of the galaxy as we pass through to the other side.






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Tue 04/21/09 05:27 PM
Hmmmm....2012....

Is it a date? A time? A pre-ordained happening?

Or an exponential 'shift' in mindset?

I find the date thing, the set in stone thing, a little too limiting...

I feel the 'shift' already....in the natural world I exist in...I don't have concrete walkways, I don't have concrete yards, and walls and compacted living.

I have an expansive 'natural earth based existence'...as in surrounded by the organic world...I walk barefoot everywhere, 'connected', so to speak...

and the natural world has changed, in the 23 years I have been consciously aware of it...

Every February we have blue butterflies hatch, en masse, that's EVERY february...it coincides with the mackeral, and blue fin tuna 'running'...the bait fish schools 'swarming'...the dolphins and their pups, 'schooling'...I have checked in with Indigenous Australians, true 'natives' of this area, who have a history older than my own...and EVERY February the butterflies have hatched...in their 'history', it's an indicator of good hunting..

It's almost May, and the blue butterflies have just hatched...

this has been just one example, and a tiny one at that, that I have observed, when you put all the other 'observable' shifts, in the natural order of here into a bigger picture...something is shifting..

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Tue 04/21/09 05:45 PM

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Tue 04/21/09 06:34 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 04/21/09 06:46 PM


There are strange things happening in this solar system that have been documented. Something is happening. I don't know what but something.

But I believe the earth and this solar system will get through it and changes will happen gradually. There may be casualties, but there will also be survivors.

Anything could happen. The mega volcano in the Yellowstone National park could erupt.... it is due. That would destroy the United States.

I don't think that will happen though although it could. The earth's magnetic poles are also due to shift any time now. I don't know that that entails.

When the earth reaches the galactic equator of the Milky way perhaps the "magnetic" forces will tilt the earth or the entire solar system.

I think things are getting warmer not because of anything mankind is doing, but because of where our solar system his headed. On December 21, 2012 the sun will be at the galactic equator and will pass through to the other side of the galaxy. This will not happen all of a sudden. It will take years to get through this area.

There is a place called "the dark road" where there are no stars and no stars can be seen through this blackness. Nobody knows what is there or why no stars can be seen. That is where we are headed.








bigsmile I have been studying the wavelength spectrum in Astronomy and the unexplained readings in space in and around our solar system.bigsmile Lot of theories but no one knows what to make of a lot of these reading (gamma wave bursts etc.).flowerforyouThe U.S. and Soviet Union started picking these readings up when they put sattelites into geosynchrynous orbit around the equator to monitor nuclear testing and it(the wavelength readings they picked up in space) were kept classified until the late 60/early 70s.bigsmileThey (the gammawave bursts they picked up in space)were totally unexpected.flowerforyou

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Tue 04/21/09 06:40 PM
flowerforyou You better hope this planet doesn't undergo a magnetic field reversal, or enviromental conditions here are going to be a lot like Venus.flowerforyou Not a very pleasant place for human (or any other) life.flowerforyouActually everything would be wiped out if that happened.laugh

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Tue 04/21/09 08:47 PM
listen man, not seriously like you better, but all the same, one thing that is a FACT, nothing, nothing, nothing, make it thru to A AFTER 2012, THAT HOLD DISTAIN IN IT'S HEART FOR OTHER'S???

do i expect you to believe me???

no???

but then if i deem it as such, WOULD I NOT BE JUDGING YOU???

THE ONLY THING THAT MAKE IT THRU, IS NO PERSONAL DISTAIN FOR OTHER'S???

why do i say this???

only because I KNOW IT TO BE TRUE, as it match the universe itself, in all ways, and WANT ALL TO MAKE IT THRU TO BLISS???

what is bliss???

all things that hate, will destroy itself???

but those who love unconditionaly, will be CARRIED OVER, to begin a new cycle, to repopulate the earth???

far fetched???

well, how could one deny it???

but all the same, ANYTHING THAT HEAR ALL WORDS AS TRUE, WILL SEE HOW AND WHY SUCH IS TRUE???

see, each cycle, only teach SO MANY TOTAL LOVE, NO SELF BIAS, THINKING THE INSANE LOGIC, THAT WHAT TWO EYE'S SEE, AND BELIEVE, IS SOMEHOW AS THE ONLY SANITY, THE ONLY REALITY, TNAT EXIST???

these, teach a new beginning, all that was learned the "last cycle"???

this began all the stories in the beginning of the "cycle" of the "blond haired", blue eye'd "gods", the "angel's" that lived and walked the earth for a "thousand years", the myths of the "greek gods", and all such things???

the "next cycle", will DO ALL THIS SAME CYCLE DID, OEVER AGAIN???

ALL HISTORY REPEATING???

another person, acting out "hitler" again, another person acting out "president clinton again", another person acting out "little big foot", over and over again, the wheels of CREATING PERFECT LOVE, keep churning out NEW LIFE, ULTIMATE LIFE BEING WHAT LOVE PAST PERSONAL BIAS???

just because somebody HURT you, DOES THAT MEAN THEY ARE EVIL???

that is what the brain say???

but, that is like saying, nothing needed to fall of the bike, and get a few scratchs to learn???

what it is to "infinity", or "perfect love", is not how human man base all things???

man base things on, if it hurt me, it is evil???

BUT NIGHT HURT SOME, WINTER HURT SOME, SUMMER HURT SOME, SNOW HURT SOME, DROUGHT HURT SOME, SO THIS LOGIC DOES NOT MATCH THE UNIVERSE ITSELF???

ok man, take it for what it is worth.

all data is equal, AS IF SELF COME UP WITH A 'REASON', TO NOT BELIEVE SOMETHING, THEN IT THINK ITSELF IS A DIETY???

all are speaking half truth, half self bias???

does that mean ALL THAT ALL FOUND OUT DURING THEIR LIFE IS NOT TRUE???

SO THE ONLY OPTION IS TO BELIEVE ALL, OR THERE IS 'BIASED' INFORMATION TAKEN IN???

information taken in, TO ONLY MATCH WHAT SELF WANTED OR THOUGTH MOST TRUE ITSELF ALONE???

just thoughts man...

i can tell you one thing for sure???

not one word of this post will EVER, EVER, EVER, be found to be not true???

so all the words written here all just bull****???

well, WRITE DOWN SOME WORDS YOURSELF, AND SEE JUST HOW HARD IT REALLY IS, TO SAY THEY WILL NEVER, NEVER, NEVER BE PROVEN UNTRUE???

it is not as easy as one might think, lol???

IF THESE WORDS DO NOT COME TRUE, THERE IS NO GOD???

CAN YOU WRITE THE SAME???

your heart will flutter, before you write such???

unless it is totally true, with no dount in your heart???

what does it take to have NO DOUBT AT ALL???

hearing all words as equal for some time, then, one see and never think again someone else is stupid, or an idiot, or a moron, or credulous, as who the hell is self, that it can come to deny even all words as ignorance that is simply does not WISH TO BE TRUE???

peace out

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Tue 04/21/09 08:58 PM

flowerforyou You better hope this planet doesn't undergo a magnetic field reversal, or enviromental conditions here are going to be a lot like Venus.flowerforyou Not a very pleasant place for human (or any other) life.flowerforyouActually everything would be wiped out if that happened.laugh



The people who live on Venus are of a different material structure. The structure of matter is different. They also live under domes. bigsmile

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Tue 04/21/09 09:03 PM
David, yes, truth is information, information is truth. All is information, all is truth.


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Tue 04/21/09 09:14 PM

David, yes, truth is information, information is truth. All is information, all is truth.




yea girl, i see you taking it all in, not discounting other's data as less, as all the resistence in the world shall be against doing such???

it is easy to naysay, AS IS THE HUMAN CONDITION, and but much more difficult to believe, in what "believe in ALL" and hear naysayer for what it is, but two eye's deeming all other's as less and ignorant, and THIS alone catch "loose electicity" as it walk down the road.

it is to purify gold in the fire dear sweet precious infinite one.

peace to peace to peace may it be for all


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Wed 04/22/09 08:34 AM


flowerforyou You better hope this planet doesn't undergo a magnetic field reversal, or enviromental conditions here are going to be a lot like Venus.flowerforyou Not a very pleasant place for human (or any other) life.flowerforyouActually everything would be wiped out if that happened.laugh



The people who live on Venus are of a different material structure. The structure of matter is different. They also live under domes. bigsmile
bigsmile There are dome like formations on the surface of Venus.bigsmile

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Wed 04/22/09 09:06 AM



flowerforyou You better hope this planet doesn't undergo a magnetic field reversal, or enviromental conditions here are going to be a lot like Venus.flowerforyou Not a very pleasant place for human (or any other) life.flowerforyouActually everything would be wiped out if that happened.laugh



The people who live on Venus are of a different material structure. The structure of matter is different. They also live under domes. bigsmile
bigsmile There are dome like formations on the surface of Venus.bigsmile


Are you saying that they have been actually seen? I was not aware of that.


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Wed 04/22/09 10:31 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 04/22/09 10:34 AM




flowerforyou You better hope this planet doesn't undergo a magnetic field reversal, or enviromental conditions here are going to be a lot like Venus.flowerforyou Not a very pleasant place for human (or any other) life.flowerforyouActually everything would be wiped out if that happened.laugh



The people who live on Venus are of a different material structure. The structure of matter is different. They also live under domes. bigsmile
bigsmile There are dome like formations on the surface of Venus.bigsmile


Are you saying that they have been actually seen? I was not aware of that.


bigsmile Yes, indeed.bigsmileI have seen them myself (the pictures).bigsmileThe dome-like formations at the eastern edge of the Alpha Regio Highlands on Venus.flowerforyouEach one averages about 20 km (12 miles) in diameter.flowerforyou Current theory is that they are formations of congealed lava.flowerforyou

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Wed 04/22/09 12:28 PM
Edited by Eddiemma on Wed 04/22/09 12:31 PM
I'm looking forward to 2013... Just like I was looking forward to the year 2001...
But, as we know it's not really the year 2013 at all.. It's another day where things may transpire and certainly will.

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Wed 04/22/09 12:34 PM

bigsmile If Nostradamus and the Mayans said it, then it must be true!bigsmile


noway

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Wed 04/22/09 12:38 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 04/22/09 12:40 PM


bigsmile If Nostradamus and the Mayans said it, then it must be true!bigsmile


noway
laugh Of course I am just kidding:tongue:


flowerforyouThe Mayans actually believed in the cycle of Eternal Return,just as many of the worlds ancient societies.flowerforyou


bigsmile We(Most of us) believe in Linear Timebigsmile

bigsmile But according to the law of cause and effect,the concept of Eternal Return is more likely to be an accurate way of understanding time.bigsmile

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Wed 04/22/09 12:40 PM

I'm looking forward to 2013... Just like I was looking forward to the year 2001...
But, as we know it's not really the year 2013 at all.. It's another day where things may transpire and certainly will.


Living in fear of everything is no way to live. If I have to live that way kill me now.

Any slew of things CAN happen, a FEW will happen. The question comes to how much control do we have? Should we know that the world is going to be exloding competely in 24 hours? Why? So we can live our last hours in extreme fear and chaos?

Life is kinda like that you know. We were never guarenteed tomorrow from the day we were born. So live each day like it is your last and you will be covered on the day of your demise.

Or at least that is how I see it and how I live it.

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Wed 04/22/09 12:44 PM



bigsmile If Nostradamus and the Mayans said it, then it must be true!bigsmile


noway
laugh Of course I am just kidding:tongue:


flowerforyouThe Mayans actually believed in the cycle of Eternal Return,just as many of the worlds ancient societies.flowerforyou


bigsmile We(Most of us) believe in Linear Timebigsmile

bigsmile But according to the law of cause and effect,the concept of Eternal Return is more likely to be an accurate way of understanding time.bigsmile


I understood you Mirrorflowerforyou

My reaction was feigned shock and denial...lol

No one person or people have the answers, it is a collective of all that may be the closest to the "truth". True truth doesn't exist except in your own mind.