Every religion has its end-times prophecies and theories. Tom Brown, Jr., has some interesting info in his books about the end times. His teacher had visions (in the 1940's or 50's) of 4 possible futures, and 2 of those things have already happened as he said that they would. We do have a disease on our planet that comes from monkeys and spreads through sex and drugs, and we do have holes in the upper atmosphere. According to him, we could still change the over-all out-come by actually taking care of the planet and healing it. The fact of the matter is, the earth wasn't put here specifically for our use and abuse, adn we are really arrogant to believe that it was. We really are just a very small part of something much bigger, and we are not neccessary to the over-all well-being of the planet. The "end times" are nearing, but we won't know until they get here. All of the prophecies have foretold it, and given signs to watch for. We, as humans, have repeatedly misintrepretted the signs for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. We have created, through our collective ignorance, an attitude of indifference and disbelief, and we as a species may pay the price. The Earth adn the Universe go on, with or without us.

If every cause becomes an effect and every effect becomes a cause then there can be no first cause and no last effect,therefore, there is no begining and there is no end to the universe and time.

The Mayans (and many others)believed that all that has happened before ,will happen again ,and their calender is based upon this concept.

No, just the cultures that believe in linear time believe in a "begining" and an "endtime"

in a time on earth, where "gravity" is released from overt pressure, and atmoshperic conditions are TOTALLY BALANCED 100% of the time, no day, no night, as all things in a "mid day", things are as in "eternal time", so then all growth is "sped up"???

this indeed in past days, created "larger animals", and tremendous planetary growth of all plants and species???

such a "time and place" is "in between" all cycle's of earth's infinite constant rotation, and such tremendous growth of all things, caused and make it appear "after" such times, that it took millions of years for such things to become, which is quite deceptive???

what does one think created all the pre-historic wild life of immense size, lol...

remove "constant" gravity from a human body, and one would be quite surprised what happen???

did it not say, man was "for a time" weighted to the ground to crawl upon it's belly, lol...

all things ever spoken in the unniverse about such things, only need to be "extended" as "never ending" occurence's to know "exactely" what the history of this planet, and universe, and cosmos, has done in exact detail in all ways???

man has two feet that 'crawl' upon the ground.

it was not always so, lol...

where does one think all the "religions" and myths, and fable's, of all things 'mystic' came from???

human's down thru time just made em all up???

lol, this would be grave arrogance to say the least!!!???

indeed, man has not been on earth, near as long one might percieve, measuring all things at the "current growth rate"???

lineal time become eternal time when gravity is released from the planet, just as it has been "many times" before???

peace

Yes and it is a very interesting and insightful idealology.

I often wonder how much of it is "wishful" thinking though.

Also how much of it is based on the premise that we are the center of the universe as man likes to put into most of his idealology?

We are the beginning and the end of all, if you buy most of the religions, myths, etc... of the past.

For the most part I agree with you.. You can't live your life in a cloud of fear all the time...That was basically the tone I was trying to covey.. Even if you believe your demise will be the year 2012. (Which I don't) -It is a few years away... You can plan for your tomorrow but I believe you need to live in the moment and for today... as you said- We were never guaranteed tomorrow from the day we were born.

Linear Time places mankinds perceptions at the "center of the universe".Eternal Return is a much more humble paradigm. In eternal return,mankinds perceptions are just a part of the universe.

What is truth? What is reality?

Fear is paralyzing. That is why is a great tool in politics. Make the people fear and you can promise them you will not let the feared thing happen and shazam you are in control. Religion works on the same premise.

When we recognize we are working, acting, reacting, from fear and can identify and nullify what we fear, noone can control us.

Being facetious here.....either every truth and reality is real or no truth or reality is real because they all come from the individual mind.

So take your pick all or nothing....lol

I am so in love with your brain Mirror

You do have a pretty mind by the way...
or do you? Well in my perception you do..

I agree with you by the way which makes that statement fact in my mind.. What if we were the only two that would agree? Would it be real? Real to us right?

I know if I ask myself a question I will come up with an answer right or wrong to the masses..
My question is how can I learn when there are so many contradictions to truth?
I can see all the angles and adhere to the ones that best fit my programming and belief system and or in some instances fall in line...



...But how can I truly learn the truth dam it!!! Ha!

Aw thanks.....I think....lol

There is only your truth and reality in your mind. It can be no other way.

If you will notice in most of the political and religious threads, the argument is usually "my truth vs your truth", "my reality vs your reality" and real true...lol answer is that they are all right and/or all wrong...lol

I love the discussions of "truth and reality", they really throw people for a loop.

And like all others, I feel my truth and reality has a good base to being closest to the universal truth and reality but there are some on here .....bless them.... who will make sure I stop it when I get to far into it...lol

This is off topic so I will apologize to the OP.

Oh yeah, and why are we here? What's our purpose?

It's amazing how much I try and perceive in but a few strung together paragraphs..

I thank you for your courteous thoughts...

Can there truly be one? Other than to just live as all other creatures do?

Personally, I cannot see one.

Now by living day to day do we accomplish things? Yes. Can we contribute to our environment in good or bad ways? Yes. Will we leave an impression when we die? Yes, both good and bad, of course.


Is any of it a great scheme and plan that will culminate someday?

No, we as humans have always presumed, assumed and placed ourselves in a falsely important place in the great vast universe.

Now does that mean we are not important? No, we have as much importance as all other life in the universe. We are just not better than or more important than all others.

This is one iota of my truth...lol

life would only be wiped out if "life itself" did not undergo change "with the universe"???

what is there to fear, except one fear what is spoken in outside words, and for fear to remain, and guide, it but to deny to try to not allow fear to guide, but this alone make one subject to fear itself???

if one say, when you drive down the road, this is going to happen, if you let go of the steering wheel???

if one accept this as but good knowing, then it is not "controlled" by fear, so steer not for fear sake, but for wisdom and to maintain happiness and freedom???

but, if one fear each second of letting go of the sterring wheel, but defining such as a "horrible thing" to hear, it accept not outside data as good data and as carefree, and so easily wreck one' vehicle due to fear, and anxiety???

one can never "not fear" by turning an eye, or denying data, as this will always control self, and not the other way around???

indeed, science has proven such things have happened before, so if all life is wiped out during such cosmos change's, then how is it that man is still here, lol???

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science but need to accept "religion labeled" data, to see how science has and cannot ever explain the missing piece???

religion as well, must accept science as just "data" as well, to complete it's missing pieces???

it is in this way, that the very "comos system" is set up for each cycle???

this but propel human man to more greatness, have to lay down pride, and self bias, to become as "fearless" and accepting other's as equal, at the end of each cycle, creating "need" which propell all things in the universe unto all change of all things in ALL CASES???

this being instead of fear driven, by denying data, which create bias in it's root inception???

it is only not using all outside data outside, ignoring simple minded "labels" of data, seeing all as accurate, that paint the "true 100% complete portrait of the last cycle", as indeed, no ONE, or SOME theories, could be the WHOLE STORY???

but indeed, all theories combined are a true EXACT picture, the exact picture that was meant to be found, by erasing the "bulk" of evidence at the "end" of each last cycle, before staring another one, MEANT FOR MAN TO HAVE TO FIND ON IT'S OWN, MAKING HUMAN CIVILIZATION HAVE TO "GROW UP" TO GREATER INTELLIGENCE???

just the simple logical procedure of CREATING INTELLIGENCE FROM "FIRST NOTHINGNESS"???

something that knew nothing, primitive to now???

it is no different than a women that bear a child???

the very cycle of ALL LIFE IS EXACT IN ALL THINGS???

after a women has given birth, and a few months of recovery, how much can one tell what happened during childbirth???

believing a women could even bring forth a child, is only able to be believed because it was "seen"???

but, after the birth, there is no 'eyeful' evidence that could convince, UNLESS ONE HAS SEEN ITSELF???

IF ONE NEVER SEEN A HUMAN BIRTH, AND RELIGION SAID WAS POSSIBLE, WOULD ONE BELIEVE IT AS POSSIBLE???

as well, if science said a human could produce life, and one never seen it, would it be believed as possible???

in this way, to believe a human birth possible, having never seen it, it could only believed, SO THEN TRIED, if one removed the "labels" from data, as religion, or science???

all data is just what other's seen, just as self see many things in it's lifetime???

all humans have only EVER done or tried what it "FIRST", THOUGHT OR HAD REASON TO BELIEVE, IT "COULD OR MIGHT" BE ABLE TO DO???

it is only in this way, that many have said to be "all things are possible???

and to "believe"???

what does self LOSE if it believe something, AND IT IS NOT POSSIBLE???

NOTHING!!!???

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it only require removing "man given labels" that allow FREE WILL ACCESS to ANYTHING, anything offered with all free will to all humans, any that wish, as SELF WANT IS KING, NEVER INTERFERED WITH BY ANY DIVINE SOME MAY BELIEVE IN, and all things and knowing are as a buffet dinner, of all knowing in the universe, to "whomsoever" will???

as human's are indeed the center of the universe, but simply do not "see how" itself is as nature ITSELF, so see not how itself is the "true center of the universe", and how all mysteries of the outside world are solved by first deeming all things of the human itself as perfect FIRST???

if was only first mans bias, first from fear in innocence, but just the same, that began to define all human happenings of the body as negative, as less than desirable, and not as perfect, that created man defining itself this way, which made man believe it was as "defective", which created all effort to "change" and "control", and create "holy" perceptions of all data???

peace out sailor's on the sea's of infinity

People are always talking about the end of the world. It seems every religion, philosophy has something indicating end of the world.

Maybe it is only normal to think like this because nothing is forever some say.

Yet I find if the majority think in this attitude then the world will come to an end for the majority will believe it to be true.

Change your mindset and believe that the world has just begun. That mankind will endure to more positive discoveries.

The mind is powerful and the superstitions are even more powerful. Know the difference and change your mindset. Don't practice "fear" into other minds, but instead love and opportunies that there is a future and not a end to the world.

People also think the end is near when they cannot adapt to changes so they preach the end is near. Try to adapt to changes, think positive, resolve issues, and move forward.

There is no end to life unless it is a natural catastrophy like a meteor shower, or we as humans as the majority believe life ends and trigger it to happen.

Enjoy the wonders of this world and discover new things to share with us in a community.

Good luck on your adventures mingler and may the force be with you.

this might sound stupid but type in planet x on google its a big planet that might be heading our way, so they say, its going to be here in 2012 and where going to start seeing it in the sky may 9, its going to look like a star in the sky during the day time, I think they are all pot heads though :) but we'll see

damn Abra, that's funny