Topic: Help Meet
RainbowTrout's photo
Sat 03/28/09 11:49 AM
Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Adam had God and animals but still didn't have a help meet.:smile:


PropheticServant's photo
Sun 03/29/09 09:22 AM
Continue reading on through Gen 2: 21-23. Adam finds his true help meet (aka "helper") in verse 23. :wink:

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Sun 03/29/09 09:37 AM
Edited by MichaelATL44 on Sun 03/29/09 09:39 AM
Recently I have been meditating, speaking, and believing the following verses which go along with what you have posted:

Proverbs 18:22
"Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD."

There is no doubt in my mind that having a Godly wife most definitely is a good thing. And together, we can recieve not just favor "from" the Lord, but favor "of" the Lord. In others words The same favor that the Lord has, so shall we have also.

And then:

Psalm 84:11
"For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly."

God is not going to withhold any good thing from us when we are walking uprightly. Or you could say when we are walking through the power of His grace, allowing His power to work through us. So a wife, he shall not withhold.

But before He brings to us our wife, we need to be certain that we are:

Matthew 6:33
"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."

God will bring our wife and present her to us when He knows for certain that we are seeking first His kingdom and His righteousness. Then and only then shall He add her unto us.

And as Prohpetic Servant points out:

Genesis 2:21-23
"And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

Our wife, and the favor "of" the Lord shall come out of us. Or better stated, out of the Christ that is within us.





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Sun 03/29/09 12:26 PM
My mother being a widow herself and me being a widower she was telling me that Paul was okay being alone. She was telling me that I was just like my younger sister and just couldn't handle being alone. My mom told me she was okay with being alone. Of course, she goes to church a lot, too.:smile:

1 Corinthians 7:8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
1 Corinthians 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

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Sun 03/29/09 01:44 PM
waving

I have been meditating on this subject as well. I am getting use to being alone and plan to use this time to minister to other hurting ladies going through this pain in the church. What the enemy intended for harm, God will turn around and use for good (Gen.50:20). This is a chapter that has helped me a lot during this time. (I love the book of Isaiah, I even named my middle child after him!)

Isaiah 54 NIV

1 "Sing, O barren woman,
you who never bore a child;
burst into song, shout for joy,
you who were never in labor;
because more are the children of the desolate woman
than of her who has a husband,"
says the LORD.

2 "Enlarge the place of your tent,
stretch your tent curtains wide,
do not hold back;
lengthen your cords,
strengthen your stakes.

3 For you will spread out to the right and to the left;
your descendants will dispossess nations
and settle in their desolate cities.

4 "Do not be afraid; you will not suffer shame.
Do not fear disgrace; you will not be humiliated.
You will forget the shame of your youth
and remember no more the reproach of your widowhood.

5 For your Maker is your husband—
the LORD Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.

6 The LORD will call you back
as if you were a wife deserted and distressed in spirit—
a wife who married young,
only to be rejected," says your God.


7 "For a brief moment I abandoned you,
but with deep compassion I will bring you back.

8 In a surge of anger
I hid my face from you for a moment,
but with everlasting kindness
I will have compassion on you,"
says the LORD your Redeemer.


He want us to lean, trust in, and rely on Him as He binds our wounds and take care of our needs. He doesn't want us to look to others during this time, but allow Him to refine, prune, purify and heal our broken hearts.

Isaiah 62:5b

...as a bridegroom rejoices over his bride,
so will your God rejoice over you.

God loves each one of us with an everlasting love. He will never leave us nor abandon us. He longs to be gracious to us and rises to show us compassion. His mercies are new every morning. He loves us so much that he numbers every hair on our head and knows when we sit, rise, are in the dark or in the light. He knows our every thought before we speak it and every petition of our heart.

God loves you and is rejoicing over you!

And I believe that as Michael said, that as we seek God's kingdom and his righteousness and make it our aim and goal to know Him and power of his resurrection and serve Him, He promises to give us the desires of our hearts.


Psalm 37:4 (New International Version)

4 Delight yourself in the LORD
and he will give you the desires of your heart.

So we can wait and trust in Him because He knows what is best for us and He has someone for each one of us if that is a desire of our heart. We just need to be patient and allow Him to work in us and in them and bring us together in His time. His time is always the RIGHT time. I don't want to get ahead or behind Him!

Isaiah 40:29-31 (New King James Version)

29 He gives power to the weak,
And to those who have no might He increases strength.

30 Even the youths shall faint and be weary,
And the young men shall utterly fall,

31 But those who wait on the LORD
Shall renew their strength;
They shall mount up with wings like eagles,
They shall run and not be weary,
They shall walk and not faint.



Psalm 27:13-14 (Amplified Bible)

13[What, what would have become of me] had I not believed that I would see the Lord's goodness in the land of the living!

14Wait and hope for and expect the Lord; be brave and of good courage and let your heart be stout and enduring. Yes, wait for and hope for and expect the Lord.

Blessings!flowerforyou

flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou


RainbowTrout's photo
Sun 03/29/09 03:27 PM
You bring up a good point, Laura. In the opening verse you will notice that God said that it is not good that man should be alone. Then he went on to say that he will make a help meet for him. Before he made man God said after he made stuff he saw that it was good. From just reading Genesis 2:18 I can infer that God loved Adam because he didn't want him to be alone. God actually cared about Adam from my point of view. :smile:

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Wed 04/01/09 07:05 PM

You bring up a good point, Laura. In the opening verse you will notice that God said that it is not good that man should be alone. Then he went on to say that he will make a help meet for him. Before he made man God said after he made stuff he saw that it was good. From just reading Genesis 2:18 I can infer that God loved Adam because he didn't want him to be alone. God actually cared about Adam from my point of view. :smile:


flowerforyou Sorry RainbowTroutflowerforyou

I got a little off topic!blushing

I agree that God not only cares, but loves us with an everlasting love which is infinately more than we can imagine and always has His best in mind for us! I love to pray the prayer that Paul prayed in Ephesians 3 - that we would be able to grasp how high and wide and long and deep is the love of Christ.

This is a revelation that I know that I need to grow in and so I pray this prayer over myself and my children often.

Other than the gift of salvation, I believe that a godly marriage where the husband and wife put God first in their lives and love each other the way Christ loves the church would be one of the greatest gifts we can receive.



Psalm 128 (NIV)

A song of ascents.

1 Blessed are all who fear the LORD,
who walk in his ways.

2 You will eat the fruit of your labor;
blessings and prosperity will be yours.

3 Your wife will be like a fruitful vine
within your house;
your sons will be like olive shoots
around your table.

4 Thus is the man blessed
who fears the LORD.

5 May the LORD bless you from Zion
all the days of your life;
may you see the prosperity of Jerusalem,

6 and may you live to see your children's children.
Peace be upon Israel.


flowerforyou

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Fri 04/03/09 08:32 AM
Hello out there.I am glad to know are men out there that still believe in God

RainbowTrout's photo
Fri 04/03/09 09:50 AM
I am not sure if you were off topic, Laura. As PropheticServant points out in the next verses we do find a help meet for Adam.

Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Gen 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

From reading the prior verses and these verses we find that Adam chose Woman instead of an animal for a help meet. Between verses 2:22 and 2;25 Woman is changed to wife. It begs the question of who married Adam to Eve. Of course, she doesn't even have a name, yet. It looks to me in 2:23 that is Adam's vows. By verse 2:24 the help meet is wife and not just Woman. Makes you wonder why wife is not capitalized. Makes me wonder why they weren't ashamed. Could it be because they were married?:smile:

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Fri 04/03/09 04:28 PM

Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Adam had God and animals but still didn't have a help meet.:smile:




So what you are saying is that it was trial and error to find a help meet, going with the animals first. should have just made a dog right off the bat; i think the error was sticking with the woman! (BTW, I am kidding around here folks)

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Fri 04/03/09 05:51 PM
Edited by PropheticServant on Fri 04/03/09 05:53 PM
RainbowTrout,

No, Adam's wife has no name in chapter 2 of Genesis. But Adam will name her "Eve" in chapter 3 of Genesis. (*Eve sounds like a Hebrew term that means 'to give life' because she would be the mother of all people everywhere.:smile:)

Also, if you read Chapter 3 of Genesis, you will find out why they were not ashamed to be naked. They had no concept yet of what was good or evil. They did not know they were supposed to be modest. But their eyes were opened to all of this when they committed the sin of eating the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. God found out about it and verily, there were consequences for their actions.


Genesis 3 (NLT)


"Now the serpant was the shrewdest of all the creatures the Lord God had made.
"Really?" he asked the woman. "Did God really say you must not eat any of the fruit in the garden?"
"Of course we may eat it." the woman told him. "It's only the fruit from the tree at the center of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God says we must not eat it or even touch it, or we will die."
"You won't die!" the serpant hissed. "God knows that your eyes will be opened when you eat it. You will become just like God, knowing everything, both good and evil."
The woman was convinced. The fruit looked so fresh and delicious, and it would make her so wise! So she ate some of the fruit. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her. Then he ate it too. At that moment, their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they strung fig leaves together around their hips to cover themselves.

Toward evening they heard the Lord God walking about in the garden, so they hid themselves among the trees. The Lord called to Adam, "Where are you?"
He replied, "I heard you, so I hid. I was afraid because I was naked."
"Who told you that you were naked?" the Lord asked. "Have you eaten the fruit that I commanded you not to eat?"
"Yes." Adam admitted, "but it was the woman you gave me who brought me the fruit, and I ate it."
Then the Lord God asked the woman, "How could you do such a thing?"
"The serpant tricked me," she replied. "That's why I ate it."
So the Lord God said to the serpant, "Because you have done this, you will be punished. You are singled out from all the domestic and wild animals of the whole earth to be cursed. You will grovel in the dust as long as you live, crawling on your belly. From now on, you and the woman will be enemies, and your offspring and her offspring will be enemies. He will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
The he said to the woman, "You will bear children with intense pain and suffering. And though your desire will be for your husband, he will be your master."
And to Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate the fruit I told you not to eat, I have placed a curse on the ground. All your life you will struggle to scratch a living from it. It will grow thorns and thistles for you, though you will eat of its grains. All your life you will sweat to produce food, until your dying day. Then you will return to the ground from which you came. For you were made from dust, and to the dust you will return."
*Then Adam named his wife Eve, because she would be the mother of all people everywhere. And the Lord God made clothing from animal skins for Adam and his wife. Then the Lord God said, "The people have become as we are, knowing everything both good and evil. What if they eat the fruit of the tree of life? Then they will live forever!" So the Lord God banished Adam and his wife Eve from the Garden of Eden. And he sent Adam out to cultivate the ground from which he had been made. After banishng them from the garden, the Lord God stationed mighty angelic beings to the east of Eden. And a flaming sword flashed back and forth, guarding the way to the tree of life."




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Sun 04/05/09 01:58 PM
PropheticServant, You know Adam had a name for just about everything even Eve.:smile:

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Sun 04/05/09 05:21 PM
:smile: That he did!

RainbowTrout's photo
Sun 04/05/09 05:31 PM
Adam was probably a good help meet himself. It makes sense to me that Eve was Adam's help meet then Adam was Eve's help meet. I mean they left the garden together. Later we find out that they had kids together. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. I think God likes children.:smile: