Topic: Immigration Law. Let's Follow the Example of Mexico
wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:28 PM







Missouri TANF requirements:

General Program Requirements
In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of Missouri, either pregnant or responsible for a child under 19 years of age, a US national, citizen, legal alien, or permanent resident, have low or very low income, and be either under-employed (working for very low wages), unemployed or about to become unemployed.

http://www.govbenefits.gov/govbenefits_en.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=gbcc_page_category&_nfls=false&bid=1668&mode=report

Illegals do NOT receive welfare.




Why do they need welfare? They have their own programs. whoa


My mother worked for the company that is in charge of WIC, heat grants, electric grants, and Head Start for our city.

The illegals are not able to receive anything from WIC, heat grants, electric grants, or Head Start.


Who's talking about WIC? whoa

Most of these programs fall under DHHS.


I'm naming some things that they don't receive. WIC doesn't fall under Family Services here. My mom's company does WIC.


So what? They're eligible for other programs. Have been for quite some time now.


No they are not. It is all lies. Made up to incite anger in others.


And you can speak for all 50 states to this? I think not.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:31 PM
wiley - where was that last site?

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:32 PM
Edited by wiley on Thu 03/26/09 10:33 PM


Yes. Because only government sites are legitimate when speaking to illegal immigration. whoa

The National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA) is a nonprofit, nonpartisan public policy research organization, established in 1983. The NCPA's goal is to develop and promote private alternatives to government regulation and control, solving problems by relying on the strength of the competitive, entrepreneurial private sector. Topics include reforms in health care, taxes, Social Security, welfare, criminal justice, education and environmental regulation.

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:32 PM
http://elecpress.monash.edu/pnp/free/pnpv4n2/simcox.htm

Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:33 PM


What programs?

They can't receive State Health Insurance, TANF, food stamps, heat grants, electric grants, WIC, and Head Start.

What other programs are you thinking that they receive?




It varies by state, but these are some of the bigger ones.

1. Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance (OASDI)

This is America's largest social security program, providing basic retirement income and protection against disability or covered workers and their survivors. Federally administered, OASDI is financed by payroll taxes on workers and their employers; in 1993 it paid out $302 billion in retirement and disability benefits.3 In addition, payroll tax finances basic health insurance (Medicare) for covered persons who are 65 or older, at a cost of $143 billion in 1993.

Participation in OASDI and the accompanying Medicare is mandatory for virtually all persons authorised to work in the United States. Because they are not eligible to work, illegal aliens have, since 1972, theoretically, not been able to enrol for this form of social security. However, many who have concealed their illegality now receive benefits in the U.S. or in their countries of origin. Estimates of total OASDI outlays for immigrants in 1993 range from $1.3 billion to $18.9 billion.4

2. Free public education from kindergarten through high school

All resident school-age immigrants, regardless of their immigration status, are entitled to free public education under a 1982 Supreme Court decision. Non-im- migrant aliens may also use the public schools in some circumstances. Total public outlays for public education in 1993 were $253.8 billion, 90 per cent of which came from state and local taxes. Estimates of the cost of educating immigrant children in 1993 range from $13.0 billion to $18.0 billion.

3. Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

This program is financed by Washington and the states; it provides $16 billion a year in cash welfare payments for the families of needy dependent children. Legal immigrants (including refugees and asylees) are eligible for AFDC, though sponsored legal immigrants are subject to a deeming' requirement which is a form of means testing. Under deeming', if a sponsored immigrant applies for AFDC, the income and resources of the sponsor are deemed' to be available for the immigrant's support for five years. The non-enforceability of affidavits of support and the limited use by state administrators of the deeming' provision have weakened cost controls. (Refugees and asylees are not subject to any deeming test.)


5. Medicaid

Medicaid is a $108 billion a year program of medical assistance for low-income persons who are aged, blind or disabled, or for members of families with needy dependent children. People eligible for AFDC and SSI are normally also entitled to Medicaid. The program is means-tested for all, but deeming' is not applied to immigrants. Legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are eligible for Medicaid. Illegal aliens receive only emergency medical care, including assistance for pregnancy. Costs of Medicaid for immigrants in 1993 ranged from an estimated $8.2 billion to $9.1 billion.


8. Housing assistance

Federal housing assistance, comprising public housing, rent supplements, and subsidised housing for low-income families, cost $21.8 billion in 1993. Legal and PRUCOL aliens are eligible. In principle, illegal aliens and non-immigrants are barred. But the Department of Housing and Urban Development has been blocked from implementing this ban since 1980. Estimates of federal housing assistance to immigrants in 1993 run from $940 million to $1.8 billion.

9. Earned Income Tax Credit

The Federal Earned Income Tax Credit scheme uses the income tax system to distribute grants of up to $3000 a year to low-income working families with children. Until 1994, anyone who worked, filed a tax return and met family and income requirements, was eligible. Illegal aliens and non-immigrants are now ineligible, though systems for screening them out are lacking. Grants under this program totalled $16.5 billion in 1993. The share distributed to immigrants was estimated at $1.8 billion.

Other sizeable federal and state assistance programs open to legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are: public higher education and student loans; general relief (a state welfare program); and an array of health and family services provided by county and city governments. In many states and communities, no attempt is made to exclude illegal aliens from public universities and from local health and family services. The cost of providing these programs to immigrants was estimated at $13.2 billion in 1992.


None of these are available for illegals and this is old because AFDC is now called TANF.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:34 PM



Yes. Because only government sites are legitimate when speaking to illegal immigration. whoa

The National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA) is a nonprofit, nonpartisan public policy research organization, established in 1983. The NCPA's goal is to develop and promote private alternatives to government regulation and control, solving problems by relying on the strength of the competitive, entrepreneurial private sector. Topics include reforms in health care, taxes, Social Security, welfare, criminal justice, education and environmental regulation.


Not a government site.

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:35 PM



What programs?

They can't receive State Health Insurance, TANF, food stamps, heat grants, electric grants, WIC, and Head Start.

What other programs are you thinking that they receive?




It varies by state, but these are some of the bigger ones.

1. Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance (OASDI)

This is America's largest social security program, providing basic retirement income and protection against disability or covered workers and their survivors. Federally administered, OASDI is financed by payroll taxes on workers and their employers; in 1993 it paid out $302 billion in retirement and disability benefits.3 In addition, payroll tax finances basic health insurance (Medicare) for covered persons who are 65 or older, at a cost of $143 billion in 1993.

Participation in OASDI and the accompanying Medicare is mandatory for virtually all persons authorised to work in the United States. Because they are not eligible to work, illegal aliens have, since 1972, theoretically, not been able to enrol for this form of social security. However, many who have concealed their illegality now receive benefits in the U.S. or in their countries of origin. Estimates of total OASDI outlays for immigrants in 1993 range from $1.3 billion to $18.9 billion.4

2. Free public education from kindergarten through high school

All resident school-age immigrants, regardless of their immigration status, are entitled to free public education under a 1982 Supreme Court decision. Non-im- migrant aliens may also use the public schools in some circumstances. Total public outlays for public education in 1993 were $253.8 billion, 90 per cent of which came from state and local taxes. Estimates of the cost of educating immigrant children in 1993 range from $13.0 billion to $18.0 billion.

3. Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

This program is financed by Washington and the states; it provides $16 billion a year in cash welfare payments for the families of needy dependent children. Legal immigrants (including refugees and asylees) are eligible for AFDC, though sponsored legal immigrants are subject to a deeming' requirement which is a form of means testing. Under deeming', if a sponsored immigrant applies for AFDC, the income and resources of the sponsor are deemed' to be available for the immigrant's support for five years. The non-enforceability of affidavits of support and the limited use by state administrators of the deeming' provision have weakened cost controls. (Refugees and asylees are not subject to any deeming test.)


5. Medicaid

Medicaid is a $108 billion a year program of medical assistance for low-income persons who are aged, blind or disabled, or for members of families with needy dependent children. People eligible for AFDC and SSI are normally also entitled to Medicaid. The program is means-tested for all, but deeming' is not applied to immigrants. Legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are eligible for Medicaid. Illegal aliens receive only emergency medical care, including assistance for pregnancy. Costs of Medicaid for immigrants in 1993 ranged from an estimated $8.2 billion to $9.1 billion.


8. Housing assistance

Federal housing assistance, comprising public housing, rent supplements, and subsidised housing for low-income families, cost $21.8 billion in 1993. Legal and PRUCOL aliens are eligible. In principle, illegal aliens and non-immigrants are barred. But the Department of Housing and Urban Development has been blocked from implementing this ban since 1980. Estimates of federal housing assistance to immigrants in 1993 run from $940 million to $1.8 billion.

9. Earned Income Tax Credit

The Federal Earned Income Tax Credit scheme uses the income tax system to distribute grants of up to $3000 a year to low-income working families with children. Until 1994, anyone who worked, filed a tax return and met family and income requirements, was eligible. Illegal aliens and non-immigrants are now ineligible, though systems for screening them out are lacking. Grants under this program totalled $16.5 billion in 1993. The share distributed to immigrants was estimated at $1.8 billion.

Other sizeable federal and state assistance programs open to legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are: public higher education and student loans; general relief (a state welfare program); and an array of health and family services provided by county and city governments. In many states and communities, no attempt is made to exclude illegal aliens from public universities and from local health and family services. The cost of providing these programs to immigrants was estimated at $13.2 billion in 1992.


None of these are available for illegals and this is old because AFDC is now called TANF.


No. TANF and AFDC are seperate programs. I specifically removed TANF from the list because illegals are excluded from it. AFDC ended in 1997 after Clinton instituted the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act. Still doesn't change the fact that many illegals benefited from the program.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:36 PM








Missouri TANF requirements:

General Program Requirements
In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of Missouri, either pregnant or responsible for a child under 19 years of age, a US national, citizen, legal alien, or permanent resident, have low or very low income, and be either under-employed (working for very low wages), unemployed or about to become unemployed.

http://www.govbenefits.gov/govbenefits_en.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=gbcc_page_category&_nfls=false&bid=1668&mode=report

Illegals do NOT receive welfare.




Why do they need welfare? They have their own programs. whoa


My mother worked for the company that is in charge of WIC, heat grants, electric grants, and Head Start for our city.

The illegals are not able to receive anything from WIC, heat grants, electric grants, or Head Start.


Who's talking about WIC? whoa

Most of these programs fall under DHHS.


I'm naming some things that they don't receive. WIC doesn't fall under Family Services here. My mom's company does WIC.


So what? They're eligible for other programs. Have been for quite some time now.


No they are not. It is all lies. Made up to incite anger in others.


And you can speak for all 50 states to this? I think not.


Federal rules are Nation wide so it doesn't matter state to state. If the state is deciding to fund the programs it is not funded by tax payers nation wide so it is their personal problem. Federal government gives nothing to illegals.

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:36 PM




Yes. Because only government sites are legitimate when speaking to illegal immigration. whoa

The National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA) is a nonprofit, nonpartisan public policy research organization, established in 1983. The NCPA's goal is to develop and promote private alternatives to government regulation and control, solving problems by relying on the strength of the competitive, entrepreneurial private sector. Topics include reforms in health care, taxes, Social Security, welfare, criminal justice, education and environmental regulation.


Not a government site.


We know. whoa

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:36 PM
funny how when it doesn't support your beliefs...they aren't good enough sites, but when they do....you don't say a word about it.

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:37 PM









Missouri TANF requirements:

General Program Requirements
In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of Missouri, either pregnant or responsible for a child under 19 years of age, a US national, citizen, legal alien, or permanent resident, have low or very low income, and be either under-employed (working for very low wages), unemployed or about to become unemployed.

http://www.govbenefits.gov/govbenefits_en.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=gbcc_page_category&_nfls=false&bid=1668&mode=report

Illegals do NOT receive welfare.




Why do they need welfare? They have their own programs. whoa


My mother worked for the company that is in charge of WIC, heat grants, electric grants, and Head Start for our city.

The illegals are not able to receive anything from WIC, heat grants, electric grants, or Head Start.


Who's talking about WIC? whoa

Most of these programs fall under DHHS.


I'm naming some things that they don't receive. WIC doesn't fall under Family Services here. My mom's company does WIC.


So what? They're eligible for other programs. Have been for quite some time now.


No they are not. It is all lies. Made up to incite anger in others.


And you can speak for all 50 states to this? I think not.


Federal rules are Nation wide so it doesn't matter state to state. If the state is deciding to fund the programs it is not funded by tax payers nation wide so it is their personal problem. Federal government gives nothing to illegals.


And again, you assume incorrectly that the same rules are in place for every program the States draw funds from. That isn't the case.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:37 PM

http://elecpress.monash.edu/pnp/free/pnpv4n2/simcox.htm


This is Australia

Winx's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:37 PM
Edited by Winx on Thu 03/26/09 10:42 PM


What programs?

They can't receive State Health Insurance, TANF, food stamps, heat grants, electric grants, WIC, and Head Start.

What other programs are you thinking that they receive?




It varies by state, but these are some of the bigger ones.

1. Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance (OASDI)

This is America's largest social security program, providing basic retirement income and protection against disability or covered workers and their survivors. Federally administered, OASDI is financed by payroll taxes on workers and their employers; in 1993 it paid out $302 billion in retirement and disability benefits.3 In addition, payroll tax finances basic health insurance (Medicare) for covered persons who are 65 or older, at a cost of $143 billion in 1993.

Participation in OASDI and the accompanying Medicare is mandatory for virtually all persons authorised to work in the United States. Because they are not eligible to work, illegal aliens have, since 1972, theoretically, not been able to enrol for this form of social security. However, many who have concealed their illegality now receive benefits in the U.S. or in their countries of origin. Estimates of total OASDI outlays for immigrants in 1993 range from $1.3 billion to $18.9 billion.4

***If they falsified documents with fake social security cards, that means that they were paying into the system.

2. Free public education from kindergarten through high school

All resident school-age immigrants, regardless of their immigration status, are entitled to free public education under a 1982 Supreme Court decision. Non-im- migrant aliens may also use the public schools in some circumstances. Total public outlays for public education in 1993 were $253.8 billion, 90 per cent of which came from state and local taxes. Estimates of the cost of educating immigrant children in 1993 range from $13.0 billion to $18.0 billion.

***Yes, they can attend public schools here.

3. Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

This program is financed by Washington and the states; it provides $16 billion a year in cash welfare payments for the families of needy dependent children. Legal immigrants (including refugees and asylees) are eligible for AFDC, though sponsored legal immigrants are subject to a deeming' requirement which is a form of means testing. Under deeming', if a sponsored immigrant applies for AFDC, the income and resources of the sponsor are deemed' to be available for the immigrant's support for five years. The non-enforceability of affidavits of support and the limited use by state administrators of the deeming' provision have weakened cost controls. (Refugees and asylees are not subject to any deeming test.)

***This is about legal immigrants.

Illegals can NOT collect that in my state.

5. Medicaid

Medicaid is a $108 billion a year program of medical assistance for low-income persons who are aged, blind or disabled, or for members of families with needy dependent children. People eligible for AFDC and SSI are normally also entitled to Medicaid. The program is means-tested for all, but deeming' is not applied to immigrants. Legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are eligible for Medicaid. Illegal aliens receive only emergency medical care, including assistance for pregnancy. Costs of Medicaid for immigrants in 1993 ranged from an estimated $8.2 billion to $9.1 billion.

***They are talking about legal immigrants.

Illegals cannot get Medicaid in my state. I think an illegal pregnant woman can deliver her baby under Medicaid though. When the baby is born, she is taken off of the Medicaid.


8. Housing assistance

Federal housing assistance, comprising public housing, rent supplements, and subsidised housing for low-income families, cost $21.8 billion in 1993. Legal and PRUCOL aliens are eligible. In principle, illegal aliens and non-immigrants are barred. But the Department of Housing and Urban Development has been blocked from implementing this ban since 1980. Estimates of federal housing assistance to immigrants in 1993 run from $940 million to $1.8 billion.

***This is talking about legal immigrants.

***Illegals cannot get Section 8 in my city.

9. Earned Income Tax Credit

The Federal Earned Income Tax Credit scheme uses the income tax system to distribute grants of up to $3000 a year to low-income working families with children. Until 1994, anyone who worked, filed a tax return and met family and income requirements, was eligible. Illegal aliens and non-immigrants are now ineligible, though systems for screening them out are lacking. Grants under this program totalled $16.5 billion in 1993. The share distributed to immigrants was estimated at $1.8 billion.

***Again, talking about legal immigrants.

Other sizeable federal and state assistance programs open to legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are: public higher education and student loans; general relief (a state welfare program); and an array of health and family services provided by county and city governments. In many states and communities, no attempt is made to exclude illegal aliens from public universities and from local health and family services. The cost of providing these programs to immigrants was estimated at $13.2 billion in 1992.

***Illegals cannot receive general relief here - no welfare. I don't know about student loans. That doesn't make sense to me. Loans are to be paid back though.


Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:38 PM




What programs?

They can't receive State Health Insurance, TANF, food stamps, heat grants, electric grants, WIC, and Head Start.

What other programs are you thinking that they receive?




It varies by state, but these are some of the bigger ones.

1. Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance (OASDI)

This is America's largest social security program, providing basic retirement income and protection against disability or covered workers and their survivors. Federally administered, OASDI is financed by payroll taxes on workers and their employers; in 1993 it paid out $302 billion in retirement and disability benefits.3 In addition, payroll tax finances basic health insurance (Medicare) for covered persons who are 65 or older, at a cost of $143 billion in 1993.

Participation in OASDI and the accompanying Medicare is mandatory for virtually all persons authorised to work in the United States. Because they are not eligible to work, illegal aliens have, since 1972, theoretically, not been able to enrol for this form of social security. However, many who have concealed their illegality now receive benefits in the U.S. or in their countries of origin. Estimates of total OASDI outlays for immigrants in 1993 range from $1.3 billion to $18.9 billion.4

2. Free public education from kindergarten through high school

All resident school-age immigrants, regardless of their immigration status, are entitled to free public education under a 1982 Supreme Court decision. Non-im- migrant aliens may also use the public schools in some circumstances. Total public outlays for public education in 1993 were $253.8 billion, 90 per cent of which came from state and local taxes. Estimates of the cost of educating immigrant children in 1993 range from $13.0 billion to $18.0 billion.

3. Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

This program is financed by Washington and the states; it provides $16 billion a year in cash welfare payments for the families of needy dependent children. Legal immigrants (including refugees and asylees) are eligible for AFDC, though sponsored legal immigrants are subject to a deeming' requirement which is a form of means testing. Under deeming', if a sponsored immigrant applies for AFDC, the income and resources of the sponsor are deemed' to be available for the immigrant's support for five years. The non-enforceability of affidavits of support and the limited use by state administrators of the deeming' provision have weakened cost controls. (Refugees and asylees are not subject to any deeming test.)


5. Medicaid

Medicaid is a $108 billion a year program of medical assistance for low-income persons who are aged, blind or disabled, or for members of families with needy dependent children. People eligible for AFDC and SSI are normally also entitled to Medicaid. The program is means-tested for all, but deeming' is not applied to immigrants. Legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are eligible for Medicaid. Illegal aliens receive only emergency medical care, including assistance for pregnancy. Costs of Medicaid for immigrants in 1993 ranged from an estimated $8.2 billion to $9.1 billion.


8. Housing assistance

Federal housing assistance, comprising public housing, rent supplements, and subsidised housing for low-income families, cost $21.8 billion in 1993. Legal and PRUCOL aliens are eligible. In principle, illegal aliens and non-immigrants are barred. But the Department of Housing and Urban Development has been blocked from implementing this ban since 1980. Estimates of federal housing assistance to immigrants in 1993 run from $940 million to $1.8 billion.

9. Earned Income Tax Credit

The Federal Earned Income Tax Credit scheme uses the income tax system to distribute grants of up to $3000 a year to low-income working families with children. Until 1994, anyone who worked, filed a tax return and met family and income requirements, was eligible. Illegal aliens and non-immigrants are now ineligible, though systems for screening them out are lacking. Grants under this program totalled $16.5 billion in 1993. The share distributed to immigrants was estimated at $1.8 billion.

Other sizeable federal and state assistance programs open to legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are: public higher education and student loans; general relief (a state welfare program); and an array of health and family services provided by county and city governments. In many states and communities, no attempt is made to exclude illegal aliens from public universities and from local health and family services. The cost of providing these programs to immigrants was estimated at $13.2 billion in 1992.


None of these are available for illegals and this is old because AFDC is now called TANF.


No. TANF and AFDC are seperate programs. I specifically removed TANF from the list because illegals are excluded from it. AFDC ended in 1997 after Clinton instituted the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act. Still doesn't change the fact that many illegals benefited from the program.


I ran both programs and they weren't eligible at any time for either one.

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:38 PM

Illegals cannot receive general relief here - no welfare. I don't know about student loans. That doesn't make sense to me. Loans are to be paid back though.


Good to hear. Sadly that isn't the case in all 50 states. As somebody else is trying to argue.

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:40 PM





What programs?

They can't receive State Health Insurance, TANF, food stamps, heat grants, electric grants, WIC, and Head Start.

What other programs are you thinking that they receive?




It varies by state, but these are some of the bigger ones.

1. Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance (OASDI)

This is America's largest social security program, providing basic retirement income and protection against disability or covered workers and their survivors. Federally administered, OASDI is financed by payroll taxes on workers and their employers; in 1993 it paid out $302 billion in retirement and disability benefits.3 In addition, payroll tax finances basic health insurance (Medicare) for covered persons who are 65 or older, at a cost of $143 billion in 1993.

Participation in OASDI and the accompanying Medicare is mandatory for virtually all persons authorised to work in the United States. Because they are not eligible to work, illegal aliens have, since 1972, theoretically, not been able to enrol for this form of social security. However, many who have concealed their illegality now receive benefits in the U.S. or in their countries of origin. Estimates of total OASDI outlays for immigrants in 1993 range from $1.3 billion to $18.9 billion.4

2. Free public education from kindergarten through high school

All resident school-age immigrants, regardless of their immigration status, are entitled to free public education under a 1982 Supreme Court decision. Non-im- migrant aliens may also use the public schools in some circumstances. Total public outlays for public education in 1993 were $253.8 billion, 90 per cent of which came from state and local taxes. Estimates of the cost of educating immigrant children in 1993 range from $13.0 billion to $18.0 billion.

3. Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

This program is financed by Washington and the states; it provides $16 billion a year in cash welfare payments for the families of needy dependent children. Legal immigrants (including refugees and asylees) are eligible for AFDC, though sponsored legal immigrants are subject to a deeming' requirement which is a form of means testing. Under deeming', if a sponsored immigrant applies for AFDC, the income and resources of the sponsor are deemed' to be available for the immigrant's support for five years. The non-enforceability of affidavits of support and the limited use by state administrators of the deeming' provision have weakened cost controls. (Refugees and asylees are not subject to any deeming test.)


5. Medicaid

Medicaid is a $108 billion a year program of medical assistance for low-income persons who are aged, blind or disabled, or for members of families with needy dependent children. People eligible for AFDC and SSI are normally also entitled to Medicaid. The program is means-tested for all, but deeming' is not applied to immigrants. Legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are eligible for Medicaid. Illegal aliens receive only emergency medical care, including assistance for pregnancy. Costs of Medicaid for immigrants in 1993 ranged from an estimated $8.2 billion to $9.1 billion.


8. Housing assistance

Federal housing assistance, comprising public housing, rent supplements, and subsidised housing for low-income families, cost $21.8 billion in 1993. Legal and PRUCOL aliens are eligible. In principle, illegal aliens and non-immigrants are barred. But the Department of Housing and Urban Development has been blocked from implementing this ban since 1980. Estimates of federal housing assistance to immigrants in 1993 run from $940 million to $1.8 billion.

9. Earned Income Tax Credit

The Federal Earned Income Tax Credit scheme uses the income tax system to distribute grants of up to $3000 a year to low-income working families with children. Until 1994, anyone who worked, filed a tax return and met family and income requirements, was eligible. Illegal aliens and non-immigrants are now ineligible, though systems for screening them out are lacking. Grants under this program totalled $16.5 billion in 1993. The share distributed to immigrants was estimated at $1.8 billion.

Other sizeable federal and state assistance programs open to legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are: public higher education and student loans; general relief (a state welfare program); and an array of health and family services provided by county and city governments. In many states and communities, no attempt is made to exclude illegal aliens from public universities and from local health and family services. The cost of providing these programs to immigrants was estimated at $13.2 billion in 1992.


None of these are available for illegals and this is old because AFDC is now called TANF.


No. TANF and AFDC are seperate programs. I specifically removed TANF from the list because illegals are excluded from it. AFDC ended in 1997 after Clinton instituted the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act. Still doesn't change the fact that many illegals benefited from the program.


I ran both programs and they weren't eligible at any time for either one.


Feel free to provide a government site that backs that claim. And remember, you're talking Federal requirements, not State. whoa

Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:40 PM










Missouri TANF requirements:

General Program Requirements
In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of Missouri, either pregnant or responsible for a child under 19 years of age, a US national, citizen, legal alien, or permanent resident, have low or very low income, and be either under-employed (working for very low wages), unemployed or about to become unemployed.

http://www.govbenefits.gov/govbenefits_en.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=gbcc_page_category&_nfls=false&bid=1668&mode=report

Illegals do NOT receive welfare.




Why do they need welfare? They have their own programs. whoa


My mother worked for the company that is in charge of WIC, heat grants, electric grants, and Head Start for our city.

The illegals are not able to receive anything from WIC, heat grants, electric grants, or Head Start.


Who's talking about WIC? whoa

Most of these programs fall under DHHS.


I'm naming some things that they don't receive. WIC doesn't fall under Family Services here. My mom's company does WIC.


So what? They're eligible for other programs. Have been for quite some time now.


No they are not. It is all lies. Made up to incite anger in others.


And you can speak for all 50 states to this? I think not.


Federal rules are Nation wide so it doesn't matter state to state. If the state is deciding to fund the programs it is not funded by tax payers nation wide so it is their personal problem. Federal government gives nothing to illegals.


And again, you assume incorrectly that the same rules are in place for every program the States draw funds from. That isn't the case.


Federal rules are federal they are nationwide. If the states choose to supplement the monies to include illegals then they can only use their own state money for the subsidy and that is their personal state issue not paid for by the tax payers nationwide.

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:41 PM











Missouri TANF requirements:

General Program Requirements
In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of Missouri, either pregnant or responsible for a child under 19 years of age, a US national, citizen, legal alien, or permanent resident, have low or very low income, and be either under-employed (working for very low wages), unemployed or about to become unemployed.

http://www.govbenefits.gov/govbenefits_en.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=gbcc_page_category&_nfls=false&bid=1668&mode=report

Illegals do NOT receive welfare.




Why do they need welfare? They have their own programs. whoa


My mother worked for the company that is in charge of WIC, heat grants, electric grants, and Head Start for our city.

The illegals are not able to receive anything from WIC, heat grants, electric grants, or Head Start.


Who's talking about WIC? whoa

Most of these programs fall under DHHS.


I'm naming some things that they don't receive. WIC doesn't fall under Family Services here. My mom's company does WIC.


So what? They're eligible for other programs. Have been for quite some time now.


No they are not. It is all lies. Made up to incite anger in others.


And you can speak for all 50 states to this? I think not.


Federal rules are Nation wide so it doesn't matter state to state. If the state is deciding to fund the programs it is not funded by tax payers nation wide so it is their personal problem. Federal government gives nothing to illegals.


And again, you assume incorrectly that the same rules are in place for every program the States draw funds from. That isn't the case.


Federal rules are federal they are nationwide. If the states choose to supplement the monies to include illegals then they can only use their own state money for the subsidy and that is their personal state issue not paid for by the tax payers nationwide.


And again, you assume incorrectly that the same rules are in place for every program the States draw funds from. That isn't the case.

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Thu 03/26/09 10:42 PM

funny how when it doesn't support your beliefs...they aren't good enough sites, but when they do....you don't say a word about it.


I think the government sites that claim the requirements for the welfare, etc. are the best sites to use.

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Thu 03/26/09 10:48 PM

5. Medicaid

Medicaid is a $108 billion a year program of medical assistance for low-income persons who are aged, blind or disabled, or for members of families with needy dependent children. People eligible for AFDC and SSI are normally also entitled to Medicaid. The program is means-tested for all, but deeming' is not applied to immigrants. Legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are eligible for Medicaid. Illegal aliens receive only emergency medical care, including assistance for pregnancy. Costs of Medicaid for immigrants in 1993 ranged from an estimated $8.2 billion to $9.1 billion.

***They are talking about legal immigrants.


Except the part where illegals are eligible for emergency medical care, including assistance for pregnancy under Medicaid. It's called an exception.


Illegals cannot get Medicaid in my state. I think an illegal pregnant woman can deliver her baby under Medicaid though.


That would be the exception.



8. Housing assistance

Federal housing assistance, comprising public housing, rent supplements, and subsidised housing for low-income families, cost $21.8 billion in 1993. Legal and PRUCOL aliens are eligible. In principle, illegal aliens and non-immigrants are barred. But the Department of Housing and Urban Development has been blocked from implementing this ban since 1980. Estimates of federal housing assistance to immigrants in 1993 run from $940 million to $1.8 billion.

***This is talking about legal immigrants.

***Illegals cannot get Section 8 in my city.

In your city. They can and do in California. Because the Department of Housing and Urban Development has been blocked from implementing this ban since 1980.


9. Earned Income Tax Credit

The Federal Earned Income Tax Credit scheme uses the income tax system to distribute grants of up to $3000 a year to low-income working families with children. Until 1994, anyone who worked, filed a tax return and met family and income requirements, was eligible. Illegal aliens and non-immigrants are now ineligible, though systems for screening them out are lacking. Grants under this program totalled $16.5 billion in 1993. The share distributed to immigrants was estimated at $1.8 billion.

***Again, talking about legal immigrants.


Yes. And the illegals who aren't screened who also claim them.



Other sizeable federal and state assistance programs open to legal immigrants and PRUCOL aliens are: public higher education and student loans; general relief (a state welfare program); and an array of health and family services provided by county and city governments. In many states and communities, no attempt is made to exclude illegal aliens from public universities and from local health and family services. The cost of providing these programs to immigrants was estimated at $13.2 billion in 1992.

***Illegals cannot receive general relief here - no welfare. I don't know about student loans. That doesn't make sense to me. Loans are to be paid back though.




This isn't merely referring to college tuition. There are also free lunch programs in the public schools. They aren't excluded from those either.