Topic: Immigration Law. Let's Follow the Example of Mexico
TJN's photo
Thu 03/26/09 08:20 PM
WTF so its ok for them to break the law?

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 08:22 PM
why is it ok for other countries to have tough immigration laws but not here?

Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/26/09 08:24 PM

WTF so its ok for them to break the law?


Did I say that?

Let the punishment fit the crime. Crossing the border is not a very serious crime so let it be punished accordingly.

To generalize them as bad people is not accurate nor is justifiably human to do so. They are humans just like us who are searching for a better life just like us.

TJN's photo
Thu 03/26/09 08:27 PM


WTF so its ok for them to break the law?


Did I say that?

Let the punishment fit the crime. Crossing the border is not a very serious crime so let it be punished accordingly.

To generalize them as bad people is not accurate nor is justifiably human to do so. They are humans just like us who are searching for a better life just like us.

They are still here illegally and if they didnt come here illegally then those companies couldnt hire them

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 08:34 PM
not all illegals pay for their health care. the state (tax payers) do for the most part. some may pay for it....but not all

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Thu 03/26/09 08:36 PM
Illegal immigrants are by definition criminals. Many studies have shown that on average illegal immigrants get more in taxpayer benefits than they pay into the system. Which makes sense, because the average illegal immigrant is a low wage worker.

I have had the same position on immigration since the late 1980's. We should streamline the process for legal immigration, and have much stricter enforcement of illegal immigration laws. Along with stronger border security, employers should face harsh penalties for hiring illegal immigrants.

This isn't a complicated issue, but as long as corrupt politicians and businessmen can benefit from lax enforcement of illegal immigration, the problems are only going to get worse.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/26/09 08:36 PM



WTF so its ok for them to break the law?


Did I say that?

Let the punishment fit the crime. Crossing the border is not a very serious crime so let it be punished accordingly.

To generalize them as bad people is not accurate nor is justifiably human to do so. They are humans just like us who are searching for a better life just like us.

They are still here illegally and if they didnt come here illegally then those companies couldnt hire them


That is what you think. If one illegal comes over here and reports home that he cannot get work and needs the money to return home or someone come get him, there would be none of the people he knows coming here. But if he comes here and an employer works the hell out of him and pays him cash, you can bet the word spreads that there is work.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/26/09 08:38 PM

Illegal immigrants are by definition criminals. Many studies have shown that on average illegal immigrants get more in taxpayer benefits than they pay into the system. Which makes sense, because the average illegal immigrant is a low wage worker.

I have had the same position on immigration since the late 1980's. We should streamline the process for legal immigration, and have much stricter enforcement of illegal immigration laws. Along with stronger border security, employers should face harsh penalties for hiring illegal immigrants.

This isn't a complicated issue, but as long as corrupt politicians and businessmen can benefit from lax enforcement of illegal immigration, the problems are only going to get worse.


Illegals do not get benefits from the governmet so that is not accurate.

If the employers here would stop hiring them they would not come here.

no photo
Thu 03/26/09 08:42 PM

WTF so its ok for them to break the law?
drinker drinker We put people in jail and take "Their rights away"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for less...."TAKE THEIR RIGHTS AWAY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TJN's photo
Thu 03/26/09 08:46 PM


Illegal immigrants are by definition criminals. Many studies have shown that on average illegal immigrants get more in taxpayer benefits than they pay into the system. Which makes sense, because the average illegal immigrant is a low wage worker.

I have had the same position on immigration since the late 1980's. We should streamline the process for legal immigration, and have much stricter enforcement of illegal immigration laws. Along with stronger border security, employers should face harsh penalties for hiring illegal immigrants.

This isn't a complicated issue, but as long as corrupt politicians and businessmen can benefit from lax enforcement of illegal immigration, the problems are only going to get worse.


Illegals do not get benefits from the governmet so that is not accurate.

If the employers here would stop hiring them they would not come here.

That was my point if they werent here in the first place the companies couldnt hire them

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:00 PM
question....if the illegals make SO little...how do they afford the hospital bills????

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:06 PM

question....if the illegals make SO little...how do they afford the hospital bills????


They don't. That's another myth of the pro illegal immigration crowd.

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Thu 03/26/09 09:06 PM

question....if the illegals make SO little...how do they afford the hospital bills????
They dont....Well I will give the benifit of doubt. The vast majority dont. Those costs are passed on....One of the many reasons my Ins premiums have skyrocketed.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:06 PM


question....if the illegals make SO little...how do they afford the hospital bills????


They don't. That's another myth of the pro illegal immigration crowd.


ding ding ding...you win

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:07 PM


question....if the illegals make SO little...how do they afford the hospital bills????
They dont....Well I will give the benifit of doubt. The vast majority dont. Those costs are passed on....One of the many reasons my Ins premiums have skyrocketed.


sorry hun...wiley beat you to it....but you get 2nd place

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:12 PM
Edited by wiley on Thu 03/26/09 09:14 PM

Illegals do not get benefits from the governmet


Of course they do. They have programs specially tailored for them. Programs that American citizens aren't eligible for. But that's ok. Places like California, Arizona, Texas, and several others are starting to finally feel the drain of the illegals and are reconsidering those programs very seriously. About damn time.


If the employers here would stop hiring them they would not come here.


And if immigration laws were enforced, like they are supposed to be, employers would face jail time for hiring them in addition to exorbitant fines. But they aren't, so the cycle continues. But hey, why punish the illegals for breaking the law? It's all the employers fault, right? whoa

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Thu 03/26/09 09:18 PM
Edited by monkey127z on Thu 03/26/09 09:19 PM
has anyone ever considered - that a long time ago, their family immigrated to this country, struggled, dealt with prejudice, and survived....all so you could get on here and post some really stupid / prejudice text on why immigration should be limited?

hmmmm frustrated

this isn't directed at anyone specifically - this is the sort of thing i think about myself when i post similar ideas

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:19 PM

has anyone ever considered - that a long time ago, their family immigrated to this country, struggled, dealt with prejudice, and survived....all so you could get on here and post some really stupid / prejudice text on why immigration should be limited?

hmmmm frustrated


what makes this stupid or even prejudice???? BTW...times have changed since our ancestors. Not to mention other countries have tough immigration laws

wiley's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:21 PM

has anyone ever considered - that a long time ago, their family immigrated to this country, struggled, dealt with prejudice, and survived....all so you could get on here and post some really stupid / prejudice text on why immigration should be limited?


Yes. And they immigrated here legally. Oops. There goes your whole tangent. Sorry.

TJN's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:21 PM

has anyone ever considered - that a long time ago, their family immigrated to this country, struggled, dealt with prejudice, and survived....all so you could get on here and post some really stupid / prejudice text on why immigration should be limited?

hmmmm frustrated

this isn't directed at anyone specifically - this is the sort of thing i think about myself when i post similar ideas

Yes but most of our families came over here legally