Topic: Pelosi calls Immigration Enforcement Un-American
franshade's photo
Wed 03/25/09 06:46 AM

12 to 18 million Illegals. They are working in many fields.
Produce ain't just picking in the fields. there are some dang good paying jobs in the processing plants. The Employer doesn't have to pay tax,ss, workman's comp, nada.
They are taking jobs in;
Construction
Roofing
Road repair and building
Landscaping
Many other fields.
Check and see if you could be replaced by cheaper labor.

Go ahead and defend Illegal activity and the destroy America attitude. I refuse to be Obamanated.

It's all about the money and power.



Start reporting those employers, take a stand but don't sit back and blame those assumed are illegal immigrants. Start taking those jobs in construction, roofing, road repair and building, landscaping etc.

We can all be replaced in our jobs unless we are the owners, report those whom you think are breaking the law. Please have some sort of proof and not just because they look like they are illegal, as filing false claims is also against the law.

nogames39's photo
Wed 03/25/09 06:47 AM

Pelosi calls Immigration Enforcement Un-American


When she is right, - she is right.

Define American, and you will define why anti-immigration laws are null and void.

Promote anti-immigration, and what you are doing is you are defining yourself as someone here just accidentally.

franshade's photo
Wed 03/25/09 06:47 AM


12 to 18 million Illegals. They are working in many fields.
Produce ain't just picking in the fields. there are some dang good paying jobs in the processing plants. The Employer doesn't have to pay tax,ss, workman's comp, nada.
They are taking jobs in;
Construction
Roofing
Road repair and building
Landscaping
Many other fields.
Check and see if you could be replaced by cheaper labor.

Go ahead and defend Illegal activity and the destroy America attitude. I refuse to be Obamanated.

It's all about the money and power.



Then go after the employer.




:thumbsup: ya beat me to it :thumbsup:

nogames39's photo
Wed 03/25/09 06:51 AM

Then go after the employer.


Totally fascist view.

An employer is not an INS agent. Same view already had created an IRS agent out of every employer.

Winx's photo
Wed 03/25/09 06:53 AM


Then go after the employer.


Totally fascist view.

An employer is not an INS agent. Same view already had created an IRS agent out of every employer.


Facist view? That's funny.laugh

An employer knows when they are hiring somebody illegal. You don't have to be an INS agent to know.

willing2's photo
Wed 03/25/09 06:54 AM
Pelosi is attempting to find ways to block ICE from doing their job.
Since Obama took office, there has only been one major ICE raid. Go figure.

Winx's photo
Wed 03/25/09 06:54 AM



12 to 18 million Illegals. They are working in many fields.
Produce ain't just picking in the fields. there are some dang good paying jobs in the processing plants. The Employer doesn't have to pay tax,ss, workman's comp, nada.
They are taking jobs in;
Construction
Roofing
Road repair and building
Landscaping
Many other fields.
Check and see if you could be replaced by cheaper labor.

Go ahead and defend Illegal activity and the destroy America attitude. I refuse to be Obamanated.

It's all about the money and power.



Then go after the employer.




:thumbsup: ya beat me to it :thumbsup:


Does that mean that you'll get me a new pair of shoes this time?happy laugh

franshade's photo
Wed 03/25/09 06:58 AM


Then go after the employer.


Totally fascist view.

An employer is not an INS agent. Same view already had created an IRS agent out of every employer.


Like everywhere else, an employer has rules and guidelines he must follow to ensure he is not doing anything illegal. Documentation and proof is required of all employees.

If 'you or anyone' knows for a fact that this employer is hiring illegal immigrants, report him/her. That will provide a job opportunity for those currently unemployed that are not illegals.

franshade's photo
Wed 03/25/09 06:59 AM


Then go after the employer.




:thumbsup: ya beat me to it :thumbsup:


Does that mean that you'll get me a new pair of shoes this time?happy laugh

definitely - domestic or imported? :wink:

nogames39's photo
Wed 03/25/09 07:02 AM

If 'you or anyone' knows for a fact that this employer is hiring illegal immigrants, report him/her. That will provide a job opportunity for those currently unemployed that are not illegals.


Report him to your friendly SS.

It is you duty as a subject to rat someone out.bigsmile

no photo
Wed 03/25/09 07:03 AM

Go ahead and defend Illegal activity and the destroy America attitude. I refuse to be Obamanated.

It's all about the money and power.



I don't defend illegal activity whether it be mexicans or americans. And destroy the American Attitude. You don't live in this country by yourself, Willing. Maybe the word Attitude is part of the problem, we certainly have an attitude lately. I don't see anyone condoning illegal activity. Obamanated. Please!

no photo
Wed 03/25/09 07:03 AM


If 'you or anyone' knows for a fact that this employer is hiring illegal immigrants, report him/her. That will provide a job opportunity for those currently unemployed that are not illegals.


Report him to your friendly SS.

It is you duty as a subject to rat someone out.bigsmile


and I take my duty serious

you have papers?

Winx's photo
Wed 03/25/09 07:05 AM



Then go after the employer.




:thumbsup: ya beat me to it :thumbsup:


Does that mean that you'll get me a new pair of shoes this time?happy laugh

definitely - domestic or imported? :wink:


Why domestic, of course. Domestic, Italian looking ones.laugh flowerforyou

franshade's photo
Wed 03/25/09 07:15 AM


If 'you or anyone' knows for a fact that this employer is hiring illegal immigrants, report him/her. That will provide a job opportunity for those currently unemployed that are not illegals.


Report him to your friendly SS.

It is you duty as a subject to rat someone out.bigsmile


Just saying either take action or stand by, I see a choice there. But do something besides complain and assume. JMO flowerforyou

franshade's photo
Wed 03/25/09 07:16 AM

Why domestic, of course. Domestic, Italian looking ones.laugh flowerforyou
laugh :thumbsup:

no photo
Wed 03/25/09 07:17 AM


If 'you or anyone' knows for a fact that this employer is hiring illegal immigrants, report him/her. That will provide a job opportunity for those currently unemployed that are not illegals.


Report him to your friendly SS.

It is you duty as a subject to rat someone out.bigsmile


You must have come up in the old school thought that you just don't rat people out, Nogames. I know that I did, so I am extremely uncomfortable with the idea of doing that to anyone except maybe when harm is being done to someone. But is this not harm to not only Americans but to legals? I also did not know that immigration was not part of the Constitution, funny what we grow up assuming.

I hate this damn subject but it's also fascinating at the same time that we as Americans can't come to some agreement or solution and keep revisiting this issue.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 03/25/09 07:46 AM
I haven't noticed Pelosi being much of an AMERICAN herself.

Although she would make a fit companion for Benidict Arnold.

franshade's photo
Wed 03/25/09 07:48 AM



If 'you or anyone' knows for a fact that this employer is hiring illegal immigrants, report him/her. That will provide a job opportunity for those currently unemployed that are not illegals.


Report him to your friendly SS.

It is you duty as a subject to rat someone out.bigsmile


You must have come up in the old school thought that you just don't rat people out, Nogames. I know that I did, so I am extremely uncomfortable with the idea of doing that to anyone except maybe when harm is being done to someone. But is this not harm to not only Americans but to legals? I also did not know that immigration was not part of the Constitution, funny what we grow up assuming.

I hate this damn subject but it's also fascinating at the same time that we as Americans can't come to some agreement or solution and keep revisiting this issue.


Would we ever come to an agreement or solution - I think the closest we will ever come to this is to agree to disagree (jmo)

I guess it's a touchier subject for me as I know of many legal immigrants who are assumed illegal as they have accents, by how they look, so yes I am more sensitive than another may be.

Another subject I am sensitive to, is the subject of (assumed) illegals taking the jobs from Americans. If anyone wants the job, compete for it. Anyway just expanding my stance on subject.



AndyBgood's photo
Wed 03/25/09 08:51 AM




Typical liberal thinking.Lets reward those who break our laws and scold the ones who try to enforce it.Someone needs to throw that prune faced Pelosi out into the gutter where she belongs.I think Ms Pelosi needs to speak to the victims of families killed by illegal immigrants many of them who have been arrested many times in this country and let free.Doesn't she realize how many murders,rapists,drug dealers,and others who are fleeing from the law in Mexico to cross the border illegally into America?Does she really think it is just Mexicans coming over?One border patrol officer was asked what is the scariest thing he see's out there?He said "prayer rugs".

A subject nobody brings up is how is this fair to the other immigrants who came here legally?They filled out the paperwork,paid the money,went through the process,did what is right and now they can't get a job because of some illegal immigrant took theirs.

I am getting very tired of hearing that they are doing jobs that nobody else wants to do.That is utter BS!I know for a fact there isn't a job that any American won't do.A large number of illegal's do very well opening their own farms,body and repair shops,mobile lunch trucks,restaurants,gardening and landscaping services,house construction,and many others.Working the blue collar industry my whole life I have worked with a great deal of both legal and illegal immigrants and none of them were working for minimum wage.Many times they were making the same amount or close to what I was making which was in the $15.00hr range.If you got the skills to make that company money nobody cares where you came from.





You are not being truthful in this statement. You have stretched a few things. MOOC


Please enlighten me.


Pelosi is not saying that immigration is not a problem that needs to be addressed for one.
Nobody wants to reward those who do illegal stuff, the punishment needs to fit the crime and in this case just crossing the border is not a serious crime. Second not all illegals are serious criminals as you implied.

Third, illegals are not making a killing from the employers who hire them. Fourth the only way you do not know of illegals that are making less then minimum wage is if you are not paying attention to the ones you think might be illegal. Fifth, how do you know they are illegal because they have an accent? They speak spanish? Come on now.

Right wing hate propaganda is where most of what you wrote comes from and I suggest you get more truthful information. My opinion of course.


No, illegal aliens take up money from our social programs and amnesty. Illegal aliens are bleeding our economy and jobs! The reason why the people who employ them are profiting from them so much is all the taxes they DON'T have to pay using them and the fines are a slap on the back of the hand!

If one thing Pelosi is good at is blowing smoke out her ass to act as a smoke screen baffling us with her BS!

no photo
Wed 03/25/09 09:12 AM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 03/25/09 09:14 AM





Typical liberal thinking.Lets reward those who break our laws and scold the ones who try to enforce it.Someone needs to throw that prune faced Pelosi out into the gutter where she belongs.I think Ms Pelosi needs to speak to the victims of families killed by illegal immigrants many of them who have been arrested many times in this country and let free.Doesn't she realize how many murders,rapists,drug dealers,and others who are fleeing from the law in Mexico to cross the border illegally into America?Does she really think it is just Mexicans coming over?One border patrol officer was asked what is the scariest thing he see's out there?He said "prayer rugs".

A subject nobody brings up is how is this fair to the other immigrants who came here legally?They filled out the paperwork,paid the money,went through the process,did what is right and now they can't get a job because of some illegal immigrant took theirs.

I am getting very tired of hearing that they are doing jobs that nobody else wants to do.That is utter BS!I know for a fact there isn't a job that any American won't do.A large number of illegal's do very well opening their own farms,body and repair shops,mobile lunch trucks,restaurants,gardening and landscaping services,house construction,and many others.Working the blue collar industry my whole life I have worked with a great deal of both legal and illegal immigrants and none of them were working for minimum wage.Many times they were making the same amount or close to what I was making which was in the $15.00hr range.If you got the skills to make that company money nobody cares where you came from.





You are not being truthful in this statement. You have stretched a few things. MOOC


Please enlighten me.


Pelosi is not saying that immigration is not a problem that needs to be addressed for one.
Nobody wants to reward those who do illegal stuff, the punishment needs to fit the crime and in this case just crossing the border is not a serious crime. Second not all illegals are serious criminals as you implied.

Third, illegals are not making a killing from the employers who hire them. Fourth the only way you do not know of illegals that are making less then minimum wage is if you are not paying attention to the ones you think might be illegal. Fifth, how do you know they are illegal because they have an accent? They speak spanish? Come on now.

Right wing hate propaganda is where most of what you wrote comes from and I suggest you get more truthful information. My opinion of course.


No, illegal aliens take up money from our social programs and amnesty. Illegal aliens are bleeding our economy and jobs! The reason why the people who employ them are profiting from them so much is all the taxes they DON'T have to pay using them and the fines are a slap on the back of the hand!

If one thing Pelosi is good at is blowing smoke out her ass to act as a smoke screen baffling us with her BS!
WELL VOTE HER THE F.....OUT.....All of us non-cali people are unable to...SHES FROM YOUR STATE!!!!!! DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT and QUIT CRYINY TO ALL OF US WHO CANT!!!