Topic: Texas mandates the silencing of students
yellowrose10's photo
Tue 03/17/09 08:21 PM
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/gen/ap/TX_Silence_Complaint.html

DALLAS — A federal appeals court on Monday upheld a Texas law that requires public school students to observe a daily minute of silence in order to pray, reflect or otherwise remain quiet.

BTW...my son has never had a moment of silence and he is now a senior in high school

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 03/17/09 08:22 PM
for a school or even a teacher to say it's for prayer is against the constitution and could be sued for that


Filmfreek's photo
Tue 03/17/09 08:29 PM

for a school or even a teacher to say it's for prayer is against the constitution and could be sued for that





What about the Texas High School football teams? Don't they usually say a prayer before every game?

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 03/17/09 08:31 PM


for a school or even a teacher to say it's for prayer is against the constitution and could be sued for that





What about the Texas High School football teams? Don't they usually say a prayer before every game?


around here....no. because of the same reasons. "organized" prayer isn't allowed and people could sue for it. that's why they have meeting clubs that might meet at lunch or whatever. if they want to pray as a group...those that want to pray do it away from the school

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 03/17/09 08:37 PM
there have been law suits in the past over this issue which is why the schools are very careful about it now.

which they should be because not all students pray or believe in the same religion. which is why a moment of silence....not prayer. it can be used for many things.

some small texas schools might still pray but as soon as someone complains....they will have to quit.

it's unconstitutional to impose the beliefs in public schools

Seamonster's photo
Wed 03/18/09 05:30 AM
moment of silence is just sneeking prayer threw the back door.
It's like the I.D. thing.
What kids need is a moment of science.

no photo
Wed 03/18/09 08:03 AM



“moment of silence” - does that really hurt anyone??? wow...it's not like it's an hour or anything.

if students want to pray....let them
if students want to take deep breaths....let them
if students want to think about if they did their homework or studied.....let them

no one is being forced to pray or anything. and again....it's not like it's a long time or anything

maybe the teacher needs a moment of silence to get her mind ready for the day ahead


This is true. I need MANY moments of silence just to get through the day. And....NO...I don't have ADD.laugh


i get to work early just to have quiet time to get ready for work. i don't really even have the time to pray before hand because i'm getting ready to start the work day.

i really don't see the big deal of a moment of silence...it's not like it's a mandatory prayer class that lasts an hour. and people can use that time to reflect on the day ahead, pray, get a moment of sleep....whatever
The students could do the same. THEY can choose to get to class early, and have there moment of silence.

Forcing ritual regardless of content or lack of content is not education, THAT is the point.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 03/18/09 10:59 AM
again...it's a FREAKING MINUTE. it is for relaxing before they start or whatever they want....geez...it's not like they are forcing kids to get on their knees and pray.

maybe it's just another thing for people to get riled up about. there are more things in life to worry about

ThomasJB's photo
Wed 03/18/09 11:10 AM

again...it's a FREAKING MINUTE. it is for relaxing before they start or whatever they want....geez...it's not like they are forcing kids to get on their knees and pray.

maybe it's just another thing for people to get riled up about. there are more things in life to worry about


It is not about a moment of silence; it is back door to school prayer. Do you really see anyone other than the christians fighting for this? Do you see any Taoists, Buddhists, Satanists, Wiccans, Muslims, Hindus or any other non christian based sects asking for or fighting for this? That makes the biggests statement of all. A minute of silence is only the beginning.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 03/18/09 11:13 AM


again...it's a FREAKING MINUTE. it is for relaxing before they start or whatever they want....geez...it's not like they are forcing kids to get on their knees and pray.

maybe it's just another thing for people to get riled up about. there are more things in life to worry about


It is not about a moment of silence; it is back door to school prayer. Do you really see anyone other than the christians fighting for this? Do you see any Taoists, Buddhists, Satanists, Wiccans, Muslims, Hindus or any other non christian based sects asking for or fighting for this? That makes the biggests statement of all. A minute of silence is only the beginning.


wow....you just want to complain about everything

kids can use the time to review their notes or whatever...NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO PRAY....GET OVER IT.

people will whine about the little things in life won't they?

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 03/18/09 11:35 AM
Taoists, Buddhists, Satanists, Wiccans, Muslims and Hindus can pray/meditate as well...and yes there are some that like it. no one is forcing anyone to pray...ever since I was a kid they changed that because of law suits.

ThomasJB's photo
Wed 03/18/09 11:46 AM



again...it's a FREAKING MINUTE. it is for relaxing before they start or whatever they want....geez...it's not like they are forcing kids to get on their knees and pray.

maybe it's just another thing for people to get riled up about. there are more things in life to worry about


It is not about a moment of silence; it is back door to school prayer. Do you really see anyone other than the christians fighting for this? Do you see any Taoists, Buddhists, Satanists, Wiccans, Muslims, Hindus or any other non christian based sects asking for or fighting for this? That makes the biggests statement of all. A minute of silence is only the beginning.


wow....you just want to complain about everything

kids can use the time to review their notes or whatever...NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO PRAY....GET OVER IT.

people will whine about the little things in life won't they?


All human situations have their inconveniences. We feel those of the present but neither see nor feel those of the future; and hence we often make troublesome changes without amendment, and frequently for the worse.
Benjamin Franklin

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 03/18/09 01:02 PM
well when and IF it happens....then do something....in the mean time just keep an eye out....but it is silly to argue about somehthing so little right now when it is for everyone to use in their own way.

it's not an entire class or anything....come on. there are more important things to complain about in the world....especially when it doesn't effect you. it's about texas and as far as i know...me, seamonster and txgal are the only ones in texas here. i was born and raised here and even when i didn't believe (during my son's younger upbringing) i wouldn't have seen anything to squawk about. it's A MOMENT to reflect, meditate, pray, sleep....whatever

ThomasJB's photo
Wed 03/18/09 01:07 PM

well when and IF it happens....then do something....in the mean time just keep an eye out....but it is silly to argue about somehthing so little right now when it is for everyone to use in their own way.

it's not an entire class or anything....come on. there are more important things to complain about in the world....especially when it doesn't effect you. it's about texas and as far as i know...me, seamonster and txgal are the only ones in texas here. i was born and raised here and even when i didn't believe (during my son's younger upbringing) i wouldn't have seen anything to squawk about. it's A MOMENT to reflect, meditate, pray, sleep....whatever


I enjoy debating and I don't have anything better to do today. So there! ftw :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 03/18/09 01:10 PM


well when and IF it happens....then do something....in the mean time just keep an eye out....but it is silly to argue about somehthing so little right now when it is for everyone to use in their own way.

it's not an entire class or anything....come on. there are more important things to complain about in the world....especially when it doesn't effect you. it's about texas and as far as i know...me, seamonster and txgal are the only ones in texas here. i was born and raised here and even when i didn't believe (during my son's younger upbringing) i wouldn't have seen anything to squawk about. it's A MOMENT to reflect, meditate, pray, sleep....whatever


I enjoy debating and I don't have anything better to do today. So there! ftw :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:


honestly....i don't mind a good debate....but i see too much childness from adults here and in real life to have filled me to the brim.

i personally would rather learn and ask questions about others and if i find something to point out i will. but i won't sit there and tell someone they are wrong because i don't agree with beliefs.

but i did think of a good saying earlier today for people that annoy me...wanna hear???? lol

ThomasJB's photo
Wed 03/18/09 01:16 PM



well when and IF it happens....then do something....in the mean time just keep an eye out....but it is silly to argue about somehthing so little right now when it is for everyone to use in their own way.

it's not an entire class or anything....come on. there are more important things to complain about in the world....especially when it doesn't effect you. it's about texas and as far as i know...me, seamonster and txgal are the only ones in texas here. i was born and raised here and even when i didn't believe (during my son's younger upbringing) i wouldn't have seen anything to squawk about. it's A MOMENT to reflect, meditate, pray, sleep....whatever


I enjoy debating and I don't have anything better to do today. So there! ftw :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:


honestly....i don't mind a good debate....but i see too much childness from adults here and in real life to have filled me to the brim.

i personally would rather learn and ask questions about others and if i find something to point out i will. but i won't sit there and tell someone they are wrong because i don't agree with beliefs.

but i did think of a good saying earlier today for people that annoy me...wanna hear???? lol

Gopher it.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 03/18/09 01:19 PM
i must be VERY holy now because you annoyed the hell out of me

rofl rofl rofl

come on....even my grandmother thought it was funny

ThomasJB's photo
Wed 03/18/09 01:23 PM

i must be VERY holy now because you annoyed the hell out of me

rofl rofl rofl

come on....even my grandmother thought it was funny

rofl bigsmile

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 03/18/09 01:24 PM
or as my grandmother likes to tease me....heaven doesn't want me and hell's afraid i'll take over lol

TBRich's photo
Wed 03/18/09 01:24 PM
What is wrong with our children today, when I was in school we forced them to let us stand silently instead of say the Pledge of Allegiance; where is testicular fortitude?

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