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Topic: how much gold
catwoman96's photo
Sun 03/15/09 09:26 PM
do you think the USA has.

that we will (our gov will)

just sit on. despite everything??



willing2's photo
Sun 03/15/09 09:31 PM

do you think the USA has.

that we will (our gov will)

just sit on. despite everything??




I'd almost bet the vault is empty.

Monier's photo
Sun 03/15/09 09:49 PM


do you think the USA has.

that we will (our gov will)

just sit on. despite everything??




I'd almost bet the vault is empty.


The rumor has been nothing for awhile. It's all based on paper

think2deep's photo
Sun 03/15/09 09:54 PM
it is empty, we've no gold left.

catwoman96's photo
Sun 03/15/09 10:01 PM

it is empty, we've no gold left.
not true. fort knox is loaded as are many other vaults. but how much do we actually have???

well the answer is, we dont know. its top secret and we may never find out what we really have or dont have.

Lionfish's photo
Sun 03/15/09 10:02 PM
It doesn't matter! The currency has been de-linked from gold for quite a bit.

catwoman96's photo
Sun 03/15/09 10:03 PM

It doesn't matter! The currency has been de-linked from gold for quite a bit.
i like cambells select soup.....thanks for asking

think2deep's photo
Sun 03/15/09 10:04 PM


it is empty, we've no gold left.
not true. fort knox is loaded as are many other vaults. but how much do we actually have???

well the answer is, we dont know. its top secret and we may never find out what we really have or dont have.


you don't know that fort knox is full of it. the same way you don't know if the other vaults are full of it. no one knows but i would expect that we have none left. i would think we gave it all away.

catwoman96's photo
Sun 03/15/09 10:06 PM



it is empty, we've no gold left.
not true. fort knox is loaded as are many other vaults. but how much do we actually have???

well the answer is, we dont know. its top secret and we may never find out what we really have or dont have.


you don't know that fort knox is full of it. the same way you don't know if the other vaults are full of it. no one knows but i would expect that we have none left. i would think we gave it all away.
thinking is not knowing......please give me the correct answer mr. think2deep

think2deep's photo
Sun 03/15/09 10:15 PM




it is empty, we've no gold left.
not true. fort knox is loaded as are many other vaults. but how much do we actually have???

well the answer is, we dont know. its top secret and we may never find out what we really have or dont have.


you don't know that fort knox is full of it. the same way you don't know if the other vaults are full of it. no one knows but i would expect that we have none left. i would think we gave it all away.
thinking is not knowing......please give me the correct answer mr. think2deep


lol, i can't give you the correct answer. i don't know. my opinion is that it's gone, that's all i can do for ya on that one.

catwoman96's photo
Sun 03/15/09 10:20 PM





it is empty, we've no gold left.
not true. fort knox is loaded as are many other vaults. but how much do we actually have???

well the answer is, we dont know. its top secret and we may never find out what we really have or dont have.


you don't know that fort knox is full of it. the same way you don't know if the other vaults are full of it. no one knows but i would expect that we have none left. i would think we gave it all away.
thinking is not knowing......please give me the correct answer mr. think2deep


lol, i can't give you the correct answer. i don't know. my opinion is that it's gone, that's all i can do for ya on that one.
well now im gonna sleep so horribly not knowing the darn truthfrustrated thanks alot mr.frustrated :wink:

nogames39's photo
Sun 03/15/09 11:55 PM
Edited by nogames39 on Mon 03/16/09 12:06 AM
We don't know. Government refuses to give us a number and does not allow a true audit. The last audit said "we have this much, minus what whatever we have sold.". So, it's a joke.

There can't be much, because they sell huge amounts daily, just to keep the gold bullion price capped at about 1000. This can't last forever. It will, has to break. Load up, and enjoy the government being stupid. Basically, by holding it's price, they achieve nothing but an easy gain by anyone that understands that a rubber band can't be pulled out forever.

They sell gold through corrupted institutions called bullion banks. They "loan" it to a bullion bank, which then immediately sells it at the market price. The idea is to give that bank an easy profit.

How?

Well, the lend at rates near zero. This is not a recent development (like other interest rates), it has been going on for years. It should properly be called a "theft" rate.

http://http://66.38.218.33/lease.chart.html

Say, you're connected enough, that you have a bullion bank license. You "borrow" a ton of gold for a year. When it will be the time to bring it back, you will owe the original quantity, plus one percent. In the mean time, the government is busy selling irregular huge chunks of gold on the market, plus, those same bullion banks are all selling, in order to destabilize the price and increase the volatility, and in general, push the price of gold down. What that allows them to do, is that the government sales affect a bullion price all the way to a degree of -20 percent. So, at those dips, you buy it back from the market, and there you have it, your easy money, minus puny 1 percent that you own contractually to the government.

If it wasn't only for the relatives of the government, everybody would be doing it. Why work? Up to 20 percent of profit guaranteed!

The bigger thing that is extremely evident is that all those bullion banks aren't even required to return the gold. The rate is set so low, so that they can keep it forever. It is only called "lease", it is really a give away. All those bullion banks that had loaned gold at $600 an ounce just a few years ago, are now locked out of the market and cannot return their gold. This is why there is no disclosure on what the bailouts really are spent on. Take a wild guess.

What are your feeling that Fort knox has some gold are based on? The TV program?

As far as our monetary system is based, yes, it is completely backed by military force only. If you don't think we can beat the sh!t out of anyone who wants to compete with us, there are plenty of examples.


catwoman96's photo
Mon 03/16/09 05:09 AM
1933: President Roosevelt outlawed private ownership of all gold bullion and all gold coins with the exception of rare coins.

Either turn in your gold and be paid the official price for it of, $20-66 an ounce, or you will be liable for a $10,000 fine and a ten year prison sentence. This confiscation order was so unpopular, it's author has never been discovered.
No Congressman ever claimed having written it, President Roosevelt stated he had not written it, nor had he even read it. Roosevelt's Secretary of the Treasury, William H. Woodin, claimed he'd never read it either, but that it was, he stated, "What the experts wanted."

1935: All the gold held by American citizens had finally been turned in. Without explanation the official price of gold was then raised to $35 per ounce. The only catch was that only foreigners could sell their gold at the new higher price.
Where is the world price of gold set? Since 1919, in the same room of private bank N. M. Rothschild & Sons in London, at 11:00 a.m., on a daily basis. (This stopped in 2004)

Therefore Warburg and his banking friends who put their money into gold at $20-66 before the stock market crash and shipped it to London, could now ship it back and sell it to the United States Government for the new higher price. The money changers have a golden rule,

"He who has the gold, makes the rules."
President Roosevelt orders the building of a new gold bullion depository to hold the vast amount of gold the United States government had illegally confiscated. That depository was Fort Knox.

1953 President Eisenhower orders the last audit of Fort Knox ever held.
Fort Knox is found to contain over 700 million ounces of gold, 70% of all the gold in the world. Although Federal Law requires an annual physical audit of Fort Knox's gold.

1971: All the pure gold had been secretly moved from Fort Knox, sold to international money changers for the $35 per ounce price, and is believed to now be kept in London. This is also when President Nixon repeals Roosevelt's Gold Reserve Act of 1934, allowing Americans to once again buy gold. As a result of this gold prices began to soar. In fact,
9 years later, in 1980, gold sold for $880 per ounce, a staggering 25 times what the gold in Fort Knox was sold to the international bankers for…

1974: A New York periodical publishes an article claiming that the Rockefeller family were manipulating the Federal Reserve for the purpose of selling off Fort Knox gold at bargain basement prices to anonymous European speculators.

The US government still did not undertake an audit of the gold in Fort Knox to quell this speculation.

1981: When President Ronald Reagan took office, his conservative friends suggested to him that he return to a gold standard. President Reagan appointed a group of men called the, "Gold Commission," to undertake a feasibility study. 1982 President Reagan's, "Gold Commission," reports back to Congress "The U. S. Treasury owned no gold at all. All the gold that was left in Fort Knox was now owned by the Federal Reserve, a group of private bankers, as collateral against the National Debt."

http://euro-med.dk/?p=3226

catwoman96's photo
Mon 03/16/09 05:24 AM
maybe lil ole me should right a letter to my congressman or to my president....and ask them my question.

i got such great faith in my government ya knowbigsmile

catwoman96's photo
Mon 03/16/09 06:56 AM
Something big happened to this country in the 1930s, though it is
rarely covered in standard so-called history. Your grandfather
had to turn in $20 of gold to Uncle Sam and got back $20 of paper
currency. Decades later, you were allowed to buy back that gold,
but at a cost of about $450 in paper currency. So what happened
between the $20 your grandfather turned in and the $450 you paid
to get it back? $450 minus $20 equals $430. Where did that $430
go? It went *somewhere*. Who got it? Somebody did.


catwoman96's photo
Mon 03/16/09 07:01 AM

What are your feeling that Fort knox has some gold are based on? The TV program?




huh i dont know if Ft knox has gold or not.


i was watching tv...and i saw this commerical asking people to sell their gold. bring your gold in for cash.
Ive been hearing the same advertisment on my local radio station also.

It got me curious. the gov is broke. people are broke as heck right now....and when your hungry that gold necklace (even if its your great grandmas or any gold collectibles) doesnt do your hunger pains any good.


hence I was thinking about gold. and its worth. and who want its. and what they use it for.

somewhere.......their IS gold

no photo
Mon 03/16/09 07:05 AM
those TV cash for gold outfits will give you about 30% pawn shop value for your gold. And pawn shops give about 30% of the appraised value for the gold

you'd be better off eating the gold

catwoman96's photo
Mon 03/16/09 07:16 AM
oooo...me i have no gold.
not even a trace of it

honestlybigsmile

catwoman96's photo
Mon 03/16/09 07:31 AM
Edited by catwoman96 on Mon 03/16/09 07:35 AM
the dollar is in trouble...........where is the gold??


think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 08:14 AM
i think people aren't realizing that the bankers that started the evil federal reserve were zionists and the ones who run it now are zionists. ben bernanke is a zionist. this is what the zionists say in the protocols.



THIS HATRED WILL BE STILL FURTHER MAGNIFIED BY THE EFFECTS of an ECONOMIC CRISES, which will stop dealing on the exchanges and bring industry to a standstill. We shall create by all the secret subterranean methods open to us and WITH THE AID OF GOLD, WHICH IS ALL IN OUR HANDS,
A UNIVERSAL ECONOMIC CRISES WHEREBY WE SHALL THROW UPON THE STREETS WHOLE MOBS OF WORKERS SIMULTANEOUSLY IN ALL THE COUNTRIES OF EUROPE. These mobs will rush delightedly to shed the blood of those whom, in the simplicity of their ignorance, they have envied from their cradles, and whose property they will then be able to loot.

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