Topic: Four days in a row!
madisonman's photo
Sat 03/14/09 07:25 PM
"It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something."
-- Franklin Delano Roosevelt


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Sat 03/14/09 07:26 PM


AND, damnit
Tax-cuts to the Oil Companies.
Did that stop them from raising the price of a gal of gas?
Did that tax-cut encourage them to build more refineries in this country?







Let me answer for you.



NO!


Exxon contributed almost 40 billion in 2007 amd 2008 to the Us Treasury through income taxes. 2009, maybe 10 billion or 20. Are you going to maker up the difference for the oil companies? Obama isn't either.


So after paying 40 billion, they still increased gas pricces at one point this summer to $5 a gal?

What would increasing that to 40.10 billion hurt?

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Sat 03/14/09 08:20 PM
HUME: It's kind of a bear market within a bear market. The market was already down tremendously over the previous year, and I think most people entered this period of the new Obama administration thinking that it probably was bottoming out and that he would give by his very presence and by what he would offer real hope and that it would at least change the psychology a bit. It has changed the psychology, it seems, for the worse and I think he does bear responsibility for that, and the impression that he has managed to leave is that he's too busy with massive new spending and a scatter shot stimulus bill which was reckless and breathless new initiatives. On top of that you have this budget with all these breathtaking new initiatives to reorder our lives in a multitude of ways.

In the meantime, first order of business, the unfinished business of the previous administration. First order of business for the new administration, the financial crisis, the credit crisis. And, so far, no plan of any discernible shape of dealing with that. A couple of pieces in place as Governor Kaine pointed out. But that's what the market is looking for. It hasn't come. It's very hard. But, that's the big problem.

Britt Hume ABC news. It's the Obama bear market now.

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Sat 03/14/09 08:43 PM
http://www.newser.com/story/53043/obama-cant-blame-bush-for-his-economic-recklessness.html

Obama Can't Blame Bush for His Economic Recklessness
Posted Mar 11, 09 3:54 PM CDT in US, Politics, Business, Opinion

(Newser) – Everyone loves a scapegoat. The American people have Wall Street fat cats, and President Obama has George W. Bush, writes David Harsanyi for the Denver Post. While Obama, "in a superbly eloquent and inspirational pitch, always reminds us that nothing is his fault," Harsanyi gripes, "nearly every initiative enacted in the first 50 days of the Obama administration has exacerbated what Bush started."

Is it too early to make that claim? Maybe, if not for the extraordinary actions the president has taken. He’s delivered a “partisan, trillion-dollar project masquerading as a stimulus bill,” Harsanyi writes, and a “deficit-busting budget.” Rather than ease the burden on business, Obama is raising $1 trillion in taxes from investors and entrepreneurs. His choices are his own, but one thing is clear: having put ideology before economics, “He owns this mess.”

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Sun 03/15/09 01:42 AM
Edited by madisonman on Sun 03/15/09 01:42 AM

HUME: It's kind of a bear market within a bear market. The market was already down tremendously over the previous year, and I think most people entered this period of the new Obama administration thinking that it probably was bottoming out and that he would give by his very presence and by what he would offer real hope and that it would at least change the psychology a bit. It has changed the psychology, it seems, for the worse and I think he does bear responsibility for that, and the impression that he has managed to leave is that he's too busy with massive new spending and a scatter shot stimulus bill which was reckless and breathless new initiatives. On top of that you have this budget with all these breathtaking new initiatives to reorder our lives in a multitude of ways.

In the meantime, first order of business, the unfinished business of the previous administration. First order of business for the new administration, the financial crisis, the credit crisis. And, so far, no plan of any discernible shape of dealing with that. A couple of pieces in place as Governor Kaine pointed out. But that's what the market is looking for. It hasn't come. It's very hard. But, that's the big problem.

Britt Hume ABC news. It's the Obama bear market now.
Brit Hume works for Fox news.no big suprise here

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Mon 03/16/09 02:50 PM
Five days.......... way to go Obama........and team! He may just save capitalism from itself

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Mon 03/16/09 02:59 PM
Frankly, in my opinion, it's a sucker play. What do you think is going to happen when those hundreds of billions of printed up dollars finally filters its way into the market?

Myanmar anyone?

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Mon 03/16/09 03:02 PM

Frankly, in my opinion, it's a sucker play. What do you think is going to happen when those hundreds of billions of printed up dollars finally filters its way into the market?

Myanmar anyone?
Lets just hope it dont I do not wish to see bread lines and soup kitchens. I would rather see this house of cards stand than the alternative.

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Mon 03/16/09 03:20 PM


Frankly, in my opinion, it's a sucker play. What do you think is going to happen when those hundreds of billions of printed up dollars finally filters its way into the market?

Myanmar anyone?
Lets just hope it dont I do not wish to see bread lines and soup kitchens. I would rather see this house of cards stand than the alternative.


sometimes hopes and wishes are just thoughts to help soften the blow for when the reality actually kicks in hard.

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Mon 03/16/09 03:23 PM

Five days.......... way to go Obama........and team! He may just save capitalism from itself


Think you had better check that one. The Dow was going up till about 2 pm then there was a big downturn and it finished down for today.

Too bad Obama let it fall so far before realizing that his comments were destroying confidence. Let me know when the Treasury Department is fully staffed and when Geitner releases the bank plan. Everyone who has to make business decisions is stuck twiddling their thumbs until Sir Geitner speaks.

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Mon 03/16/09 03:26 PM


Five days.......... way to go Obama........and team! He may just save capitalism from itself


Think you had better check that one. The Dow was going up till about 2 pm then there was a big downturn and it finished down for today.

Too bad Obama let it fall so far before realizing that his comments were destroying confidence. Let me know when the Treasury Department is fully staffed and when Geitner releases the bank plan. Everyone who has to make business decisions is stuck twiddling their thumbs until Sir Geitner speaks.


speaking of the devil himself, Sir Geitner used to be the president of the federal reserve how does that hit ya?

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Tue 03/17/09 02:43 PM
6 days thank you Obama despite the republican stonewalling you saved capitalism. drinker

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Tue 03/17/09 03:03 PM
Edited by crickstergo on Tue 03/17/09 03:13 PM

6 days thank you Obama despite the republican stonewalling you saved capitalism. drinker


your info appears wrong. The Dow was down yesterday. And remember, the market at its low was down almost 2000 points since jan 20 so when it gets back up to that you can start to argue your point.

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Tue 03/17/09 03:09 PM
Edited by madisonman on Tue 03/17/09 03:17 PM


6 days thank you Obama despite the republican stonewalling you saved capitalism. drinker


your info appears wrong. The Dow was down yesterday. And remember, the market at its low was down almost 3000 points since jan 20 so when it gets back up to that you can start to argue your point.
ouch what a crash this was.
On Monday, the Dow slipped 7.01, or 0.1 percent, to 7,216.97
at least it held the gainsfrom the previouse 4 days eh? and then ANOTHER SURGE. laugh

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Tue 03/17/09 03:53 PM

Bush gave a 1.6 trillion dollar tax-cut to the wealthiest Americans.

This just brings them back to where they were before that,
and "THAT" did't work!noway



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Tue 03/17/09 04:19 PM
rofl i forgot what this thread was about

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Tue 03/17/09 04:20 PM

rofl i forgot what this thread was about
meow

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Tue 03/17/09 04:22 PM


rofl i forgot what this thread was about
meow


don't start with me madman explode :wink:

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Tue 03/17/09 04:55 PM



rofl i forgot what this thread was about
meow


don't start with me madman explode :wink:
I know a secret na na na boo boo:wink:

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Tue 03/17/09 04:58 PM




rofl i forgot what this thread was about
meow


don't start with me madman explode :wink:
I know a secret na na na boo boo:wink:


you know NUTTIN!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE LIES....ALL LIES