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Topic: 150,000-Strong Nurses’ Union Pushes for Single-Payer Healt
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Wed 03/11/09 05:52 PM
Three of the country’s top organizations of direct care registered nurses have come together to form a new national nurses’ union that is advocating for a single-payer national health insurance program. The new union unifies the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee, United American Nurses, and the Massachusetts Nurses Association into a 150,000-member association, making it the largest registered nurses union in US history http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/11/newly_formed_150_000_strong_nurses

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Wed 03/11/09 05:54 PM

Three of the country’s top organizations of direct care registered nurses have come together to form a new national nurses’ union that is advocating for a single-payer national health insurance program. The new union unifies the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee, United American Nurses, and the Massachusetts Nurses Association into a 150,000-member association, making it the largest registered nurses union in US history http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/11/newly_formed_150_000_strong_nurses
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AndrewAV's photo
Wed 03/11/09 06:43 PM
This will not end well.

catwoman96's photo
Wed 03/11/09 07:08 PM
single payer nationalized healthcare.

great I wonder whose paying for this?



some would end up benefiting, some would end up suffering.
I do not think in the long term...we (and our children ) would benefit.

but heck when Im old...I already dont expect social security and meidcare.


increase jobs...(so more our offered insurance) and make them insurance companies compete more for us getting their coverage.



yellowrose10's photo
Wed 03/11/09 07:18 PM
good lord people

madisonman's photo
Thu 03/12/09 04:28 AM

single payer nationalized healthcare.

great I wonder whose paying for this?



some would end up benefiting, some would end up suffering.
I do not think in the long term...we (and our children ) would benefit.

but heck when Im old...I already dont expect social security and meidcare.


increase jobs...(so more our offered insurance) and make them insurance companies compete more for us getting their coverage.
america has the most expensive healthcare in the world yet we rank near the bottem in the western democracies in care. our health care system is as big a scam as the banking system.


madisonman's photo
Thu 03/12/09 04:28 AM

single payer nationalized healthcare.

great I wonder whose paying for this?



some would end up benefiting, some would end up suffering.
I do not think in the long term...we (and our children ) would benefit.

but heck when Im old...I already dont expect social security and meidcare.


increase jobs...(so more our offered insurance) and make them insurance companies compete more for us getting their coverage.
america has the most expensive healthcare in the world yet we rank near the bottem in the western democracies in care. our health care system is as big a scam as the banking system.


catwoman96's photo
Thu 03/12/09 04:39 AM
Edited by catwoman96 on Thu 03/12/09 04:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYC2DJWU41s



http://www.aarpmagazine.org/health/health_care_costs.html

madisonman's photo
Thu 03/12/09 05:47 AM
Edited by madisonman on Thu 03/12/09 05:50 AM
The World Health Organization's ranking
of the world's health systems.
France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei
41 New Zealand
42 Bahrain
43 Croatia
44 Qatar
45 Kuwait
46 Barbados
47 Thailand
48 Czech Republic
49 Malaysia
50 Poland
This is from 2000 imagine if they had done this lst year or t his year with the millions of americans with no health care at all we would probably be at the bottem

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

madisonman's photo
Thu 03/12/09 05:51 AM
Is America's Health Care System the best or just the most expensive in the world?


Health care costs continue to rise in the US
The United States spends more on health care than any other country in the world and the health care costs continue to rise. Government figures show that in 2004 health care spending reached 1.9 trillion dollars, equaling 16 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product.
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2006-02/2006-02-28-voa59.cfm?CFID=8308952&CFTOKEN=93774770

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 06:08 AM
i could use a nurse to make the pain in my toe go away :cry:

madisonman's photo
Thu 03/12/09 06:09 AM
Single-payer is the system that removes private insurance companies from the picture; the government pays all the bills, but health-care delivery remains private. People still get their choice of what doctor to go to and what hospital to use. Single-payer reduces the administrative costs and removes the profit that insurance companies add to health-care delivery
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/03/11-3

catwoman96's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:54 AM
i wonder how they rank that number??
I mean quality of healthcare seems like it would be hard to assess.

it what is it a ranking of? quality? money spent per individual? percent of patients treated? percent of people happy with their current healthcare?

Costa Rica vs AMerica...

hmm....lets compare



Lynann's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:56 AM
Hey Catwoman96!

"single payer nationalized healthcare.

great I wonder whose paying for this?"

I hate to tell you this but you are already paying for this.


catwoman96's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:00 AM
im paying for medicare/medicaid...

which Im quite certain at some point medicaid/medicare will go bankrupt.

there needs to be a change in the way we do healthcare..follow my links above..it tells you where/why the system sucks.


catwoman96's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:03 AM
Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW)--the 20-year-old watchdog group dedicated to eliminating waste, fraud, abuse, and mismanagement in government--on March 25 criticized national leaders for "overseeing the fiscal deterioration of the Medicare program over the last four decades."

CAGW's criticism came in response to a report issued a day earlier by the trustees who monitor the fiscal health of Medicare and Social Security. The trustees estimate the fund for hospital bills in the Medicare program will run dry by 2019, seven years sooner than predicted last year, largely thanks to the new Medicare bill. Medicare begins dipping into its trust fund for the first time this year.

"Politicians in Washington ignored this problem for several decades, and then they make it worse by adding a costly prescription drug benefit," CAGW President Tom Schatz said. "The retirement of the baby boomers will spell fiscal doom for older and younger generations alike."

http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/14901/Medicare_Will_Be_Bankrupt_by_2019.html

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 03/12/09 10:51 AM
If nurses want to get together and be charitable that is a positive thing. If they expect to be government funded, that turns into a negative thing.

In order to solve the healthcare crisis we must obviously ask "Why is healthcare so unaffordable?" There are many, many reasons for this. But they all must be addressed before throwing money at the situation. Makes sense?

madisonman's photo
Thu 03/12/09 02:10 PM

If nurses want to get together and be charitable that is a positive thing. If they expect to be government funded, that turns into a negative thing.

In order to solve the healthcare crisis we must obviously ask "Why is healthcare so unaffordable?" There are many, many reasons for this. But they all must be addressed before throwing money at the situation. Makes sense?
Not realy being we are allready throweing more and more money at it and getting less and less care.

Lynann's photo
Thu 03/12/09 02:13 PM
Every 30 seconds in the United states someone files for bankruptcy due to medical bills.

Tell me we aren't already paying for it.

catwoman96's photo
Thu 03/12/09 02:55 PM

Every 30 seconds in the United states someone files for bankruptcy due to medical bills.

Tell me we aren't already paying for it.


very true and a valid point.

if inflation continues to rise....so will the price of healthcare.

can we truly fix the healthcare system when the economy sux nutz??

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