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| Topic: 150,000-Strong Nurses’ Union Pushes for Single-Payer Healt | |
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lol...
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems. France 2 Italy 3 San Marino 4 Andorra 5 Malta 6 Singapore 7 Spain 8 Oman 9 Austria 10 Japan 11 Norway 12 Portugal 13 Monaco 14 Greece 15 Iceland 16 Luxembourg 17 Netherlands 18 United Kingdom 19 Ireland 20 Switzerland 21 Belgium 22 Colombia 23 Sweden 24 Cyprus 25 Germany 26 Saudi Arabia 27 United Arab Emirates 28 Israel 29 Morocco 30 Canada 31 Finland 32 Australia 33 Chile 34 Denmark 35 Dominica 36 Costa Rica 37 United States of America 38 Slovenia 39 Cuba 40 Brunei 41 New Zealand 42 Bahrain 43 Croatia 44 Qatar 45 Kuwait 46 Barbados 47 Thailand 48 Czech Republic 49 Malaysia 50 Poland This is from 2000 imagine if they had done this lst year or t his year with the millions of americans with no health care at all we would probably be at the bottem http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html But don't forget, they also pay more federal taxes. Are you ready for that? Also don't forget, are the people living there healthier than other nations who has lower health system rating? Is there a correlation between socialized health care vs. healthier people? |
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As per this nurses union, Using human life as a bargaining chip is as about despicable as it gets. The same tactics the Palestinians, using innocent human beings as shields. Just imagine if all healthcare providers were unionized and you or children had a life- threatening crisis whilst they were out on strike (wildcat or other). Unions are simply for the losers and truly selfish in my opinion... me, me, me. You are only wallowing in the middle class because you choose to and that's fine if it works for you. Insurance companies (non-government types) being a private "investment" business, has the right to do business with whomever they choose. It is your choice to do busines with whoever you choose as well. You're absolutely correct, "it's YOUR choice". Your choice to get more education, a better job/career, work harder, or hope to just get fiancially lucky (E.G. win the lotto or inheritance) as to be able to afford the best or better things in life. Nothing that hasn't been stated before... personal responsibility for ones actions or inactions. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Sat 03/14/09 01:02 PM
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why does everyone forget about the federal reserve and their part in this whole thing. if it weren't for this fake fiat money losing it's value, we wouldn't be in any of this mess!! who controls the value of the money? the federal reserve does. Isn't the topic about nurses and the union? |
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Every 30 seconds in the United States someone has to file for bankruptcy do to unforeseen medical costs.
Many of these people are working people. People with insurance that found themselves denied. Know what happens in bankruptcy? Creditors are payed pennies on the dollar if anything at all...so it isn't just that person and the company holding the medical debt that are injured. Companies unrelated to health care pay the price of bankruptcy too. But then...oh nm |
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Its pretty apparent to me that when our nurses cant afford insurance for themselves or children something is wrong with the system big time. One can assume the management has red carpet insurance for life. I see many many people that would benefit from a "single payer" government run program. Who will pay for it you ask? Think along the lines of " I pay x ammount now for insurance and co-pays and my company also pays x amount. We also pay into medicaid. If these funds are re applied to a single payer plan I am sure it will increase our costs verry little and in the long run drive down the cost of medical care and all will be able to see a Dr. when needed. The fact that america has the most expensive health care in the world are not in dispute by anyone. America also ranks near the bottem in care for the western democracies. We are being scammed on a massive scale and our health is held hostage to insurance companeis that only care for the bottom line. you dont seem to understand what Im saying. and really Im not gonna get on an online discussion regarding my personal finances. I could have insurance......if I wanted. I choose not to. so, no there is not one selling point that I could see that would make me want to be a part of a union. It has nothing to offer me. It was a good point that the state nurses associations has done a good job in establishing quality care guidelines. 
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Every 30 seconds in the United States someone has to file for bankruptcy do to unforeseen medical costs. Many of these people are working people. People with insurance that found themselves denied. Know what happens in bankruptcy? Creditors are payed pennies on the dollar if anything at all...so it isn't just that person and the company holding the medical debt that are injured. Companies unrelated to health care pay the price of bankruptcy too. But then...oh nm well healthcare isnt completly to blame for somebody filing bankruptcy...as long as you send people a small sum of money....then why the need to file bankruptcy?? high cost of living and the fact that AFTER they recieved the medical care...paying for it is back burner to paying mortgages, credit cards, and car payments |
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The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems. France 2 Italy 3 San Marino 4 Andorra 5 Malta 6 Singapore 7 Spain 8 Oman 9 Austria 10 Japan 11 Norway 12 Portugal 13 Monaco 14 Greece 15 Iceland 16 Luxembourg 17 Netherlands 18 United Kingdom 19 Ireland 20 Switzerland 21 Belgium 22 Colombia 23 Sweden 24 Cyprus 25 Germany 26 Saudi Arabia 27 United Arab Emirates 28 Israel 29 Morocco 30 Canada 31 Finland 32 Australia 33 Chile 34 Denmark 35 Dominica 36 Costa Rica 37 United States of America 38 Slovenia 39 Cuba 40 Brunei 41 New Zealand 42 Bahrain 43 Croatia 44 Qatar 45 Kuwait 46 Barbados 47 Thailand 48 Czech Republic 49 Malaysia 50 Poland This is from 2000 imagine if they had done this lst year or t his year with the millions of americans with no health care at all we would probably be at the bottem http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html But don't forget, they also pay more federal taxes. Are you ready for that? Also don't forget, are the people living there healthier than other nations who has lower health system rating? Is there a correlation between socialized health care vs. healthier people? If our goverment wasnt sending so much of our money to Israel and other countrys that dont do crap for us then maybe we could afford it.
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The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems. France 2 Italy 3 San Marino 4 Andorra 5 Malta 6 Singapore 7 Spain 8 Oman 9 Austria 10 Japan 11 Norway 12 Portugal 13 Monaco 14 Greece 15 Iceland 16 Luxembourg 17 Netherlands 18 United Kingdom 19 Ireland 20 Switzerland 21 Belgium 22 Colombia 23 Sweden 24 Cyprus 25 Germany 26 Saudi Arabia 27 United Arab Emirates 28 Israel 29 Morocco 30 Canada 31 Finland 32 Australia 33 Chile 34 Denmark 35 Dominica 36 Costa Rica 37 United States of America 38 Slovenia 39 Cuba 40 Brunei 41 New Zealand 42 Bahrain 43 Croatia 44 Qatar 45 Kuwait 46 Barbados 47 Thailand 48 Czech Republic 49 Malaysia 50 Poland This is from 2000 imagine if they had done this lst year or t his year with the millions of americans with no health care at all we would probably be at the bottem http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html But don't forget, they also pay more federal taxes. Are you ready for that? Also don't forget, are the people living there healthier than other nations who has lower health system rating? Is there a correlation between socialized health care vs. healthier people? If our goverment wasnt sending so much of our money to Israel and other countrys that dont do crap for us then maybe we could afford it.
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The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems. France 2 Italy 3 San Marino 4 Andorra 5 Malta 6 Singapore 7 Spain 8 Oman 9 Austria 10 Japan 11 Norway 12 Portugal 13 Monaco 14 Greece 15 Iceland 16 Luxembourg 17 Netherlands 18 United Kingdom 19 Ireland 20 Switzerland 21 Belgium 22 Colombia 23 Sweden 24 Cyprus 25 Germany 26 Saudi Arabia 27 United Arab Emirates 28 Israel 29 Morocco 30 Canada 31 Finland 32 Australia 33 Chile 34 Denmark 35 Dominica 36 Costa Rica 37 United States of America 38 Slovenia 39 Cuba 40 Brunei 41 New Zealand 42 Bahrain 43 Croatia 44 Qatar 45 Kuwait 46 Barbados 47 Thailand 48 Czech Republic 49 Malaysia 50 Poland This is from 2000 imagine if they had done this lst year or t his year with the millions of americans with no health care at all we would probably be at the bottem http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html But don't forget, they also pay more federal taxes. Are you ready for that? Also don't forget, are the people living there healthier than other nations who has lower health system rating? Is there a correlation between socialized health care vs. healthier people? If our goverment wasnt sending so much of our money to Israel and other countrys that dont do crap for us then maybe we could afford it.
 Sure you do
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The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems. France 2 Italy 3 San Marino 4 Andorra 5 Malta 6 Singapore 7 Spain 8 Oman 9 Austria 10 Japan 11 Norway 12 Portugal 13 Monaco 14 Greece 15 Iceland 16 Luxembourg 17 Netherlands 18 United Kingdom 19 Ireland 20 Switzerland 21 Belgium 22 Colombia 23 Sweden 24 Cyprus 25 Germany 26 Saudi Arabia 27 United Arab Emirates 28 Israel 29 Morocco 30 Canada 31 Finland 32 Australia 33 Chile 34 Denmark 35 Dominica 36 Costa Rica 37 United States of America 38 Slovenia 39 Cuba 40 Brunei 41 New Zealand 42 Bahrain 43 Croatia 44 Qatar 45 Kuwait 46 Barbados 47 Thailand 48 Czech Republic 49 Malaysia 50 Poland This is from 2000 imagine if they had done this lst year or t his year with the millions of americans with no health care at all we would probably be at the bottem http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html But don't forget, they also pay more federal taxes. Are you ready for that? Also don't forget, are the people living there healthier than other nations who has lower health system rating? Is there a correlation between socialized health care vs. healthier people? If our goverment wasnt sending so much of our money to Israel and other countrys that dont do crap for us then maybe we could afford it.
You think that would have been this administration's first order of business then. If you cut money from somewhere to spend somewhere else i have no problem with it. If we cut our 1.5 trillion dollars a year spending overseas we could afford this healthcare system AND put 500 billion towards the national debt... Sound good? |
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sounds like...............fantasy.
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