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Topic: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Officially Launches
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Mon 03/09/09 10:28 AM


War, there are so many many groups that want power, which do you think want the most power.

America is made up of just about every nationality on earth rigth now, are you saying that we should fear that? I don't pretend to understand all this, but what I worry about the most is one group over all, wanting to divide everyone else.. Not sure I said that right.


First, when you look at the power grabbers, they all seem to interlock at one level or another.

As far as America being made up of every Nationality, I don't have an issue with that, nor do I have an issue with people celebrating their heritage, but we have a Government that has stopped encouraging people to assimilate, when you can look at schools that have stopped teaching in english only, thats an issue. My example is: I took my buddy to get his GED. while he was taking the tests, i went to read what all the requirements were. The first thing I saw was that you can get your test in about a dozen languages. Now one of the tests is: English equivalency... what part of getting the English test in spanish/korean/japanese or portugeuse shows English equivalency?

Culture is good, but not when it's being used to keep us divided and at each others throats.

This is done, as it is with nonissues, like gay marriage, abortion, the right to choose medical treatments or drug use vs. Alcohol use, to keep us focused on each other and not paying attention to those who would like to see the planet under their thumb. We're so close to this "one world" system now that I'm truly frightened for our future. Obama had Gordon Brown, in the white house, talking about a "New Global Monetary Order" a "Global New Deal". I only hope that the American people can see that Globalism is one of the primary offenders that created this crisis and it's a no sale.


Thank you, that clears up that question. I do believe that the nonissues like gay marriage and abortion have been used just as you say, and have for a long time now.

I just never saw globalism as all that much of a threat. I assumed maybe wrongly that it would be good for everyone in the world. It's almost sad to me that it wouldn't be, but then I have yet to get why it's so dangerous. I am still trying desperately to understand why we have to make things in this world so damn complicated...

I was paniced when I heard the first Bush use new world order, then Home land security reminded me of something from Hitler, but I though geez, I must be missing something, I'm just paranoid.


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Mon 03/09/09 10:42 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Mon 03/09/09 10:56 AM
the very "tell" of anything in power, that does not want exposure nor scrutiny, is anything in power that discredit such a word as conspiracy???

conspiracy???

where one or more conspire, to perpetrate, what it does not wish to be made known???

a 7-11 thief conspire, a child molester conspire, a rapist conspire, a murderer conspire, a lier conspire, a home invader conspire, to NOT GET CAUGHT, and for "world power" to discredit the word conspire, perpetrate and allow much worse than all these things.

for the word "conspiracy" to be effectively turned to a word of distain, even able to envoke distain one to another from speaking it, takes a incremental removing of credibility of the very word itself, which remove credibility of anything called an accuser, and if there is NO ACCUSER ALLOWED, the greatest propaganda of any self interest, no accountability wished, self feeding power machine, has indeed become as effective.

does a man not that does not lie, say to accuse of a lie is evil???

does a father ridicule his child, if the child come and ask his father about a fear or question, from things it has heard???

does a wise and honest father, tell his son, any that accuse are idiot's, evil's, lunatic's, unpatriotic???

only when unpatriotic has become as anythying which question self.

the human nature eat this up by any power speaking it, as nothing naturally like's it's own motive's to be questioned, unless itself has nothing to hide, nor protect, nor preserve of itself most.

only those that care more about other's, more than it's own self, can embrace such things as truth and integrity, not for self pride sake, but for other's, as what more is true integrity, than willing to lay down one's life for a friend, for the truth, which be the only thing that can preserve all.

agenda machine's weave intricate tale's with ridicule of accuser's, that is only missed by those self absorbed in the small world of self, comfort creating complaceny, allowing the fogetting that peace, and freedom, was secured by great loss of life, of it's own brother's and sister's, and to not question is to allow every partiot who ever died, to have fallen in vain.

many a truth loving patriot has fallen prey to utopian dreams, that freedom and peace can come from the unrestricted nature of human man, as the unrestricted and unquestioned motive's of human man, in all of history, has destroyed, mamed, murdered, chopped up, minced, ground to dust, and reduced to powder, billions upon billions of live's of people, just as self.

there can be neither truth nor freedom, in a world where there is no freedom of truth.

the shackles of every fallen nation, were installed with words discediting voice's of disent.

anything that govern, and hold the live's of childrens, mother's, father's, ALL IN THE PALM OF IT'S HANDS, and does not welcome the hearing of questions of it's brother's and sister's, show it see not people's as equal to itself, but rather as object's to be manipulated and controlled, to maintain it's own power.

anything that retract itself into a veil of secrecy, show it despise any knowing of it's deeds, and if such practice could create a jeffery dahmer, then a insideous precedent is created indeed, where tyranny is fostered and let to go free, while victims were told what to believe, minus proof.

wishes do not equate freedom and equality, and only allow victim's to be carried off into dungeons and prisons with no scrutiny.

for a government to speak of those it govern, as the American people, show it identify itself as seperate, not of the people, nor as the people, and show it's root thinking before all, that it feel not as one, nor as the same, of the very people's it is purtorted to represent.

there is no government in the mind of well intentioned power, just people helping people, be strong, and not fall prey to natural human weakness, that reside in all, to see, to make strong, and leader's lead the way by embracing the scrutiny of itself.

it shall not be a mound, nor a hill, nor a foothill, nor a plateau, but rather a mountain, and nothing short of reaching the summit, will suffice, to undo the subversion of truth, that has rotten the very foundation's from under a soverign people's, once called America the proud, of freedom, which is truth.

peace


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Mon 03/09/09 11:30 AM
http://fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/zbig.html

I just read this article about The Grand Chessboard. Brzezinski

I am not sure if I even understand it all, or believe the parts I do understand. Ugh. So sick of having to watch the whole damn world to see how wants what. Too bad we can't just live our lives and focus on that.

It's a real drag that we can't depend on our government to do what is right for everyone.

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Mon 03/09/09 11:34 AM
Excuse me, I don't want them to do what's right for me. That, I'll do myself. I just want them to go and die off.

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Mon 03/09/09 11:42 AM

Excuse me, I don't want them to do what's right for me. That, I'll do myself. I just want them to go and die off.


What I mean is that whatever they are responsible for I would like them to do their job so that we who do ours don't have to be watching them to see that they are doing it. We all have a job to do, and time off hopefully. It's a damn shame that we have to watch those who are supposed to be doing a job, in our spare time. Maybe that doesnt' make any sense.


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Mon 03/09/09 12:14 PM
Well, it does. But you see, their job is very narrowly defined. They refuse to do what they must, what we asked them to do. They don't do that. Instead, they do everything else that they have no permission to do.

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Mon 03/09/09 01:31 PM

Well, it does. But you see, their job is very narrowly defined. They refuse to do what they must, what we asked them to do. They don't do that. Instead, they do everything else that they have no permission to do.


Well someone must have given the permission at some point, no?

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Mon 03/09/09 01:44 PM


Well, it does. But you see, their job is very narrowly defined. They refuse to do what they must, what we asked them to do. They don't do that. Instead, they do everything else that they have no permission to do.


Well someone must have given the permission at some point, no?


You'd think!

However, there is another way, and that was the way they went. Instead of getting a permission to violate the constitution, they have created the department of education. This, is to brainwash our children, in order that they no longer posses a knowledge that is equal or greater to that of our founding fathers. They have also created an "Universal Suffrage", in order to allow those who do not create to vote on how the created would be spent.

Two plus two, the "de-education" and the universal suffrage, then allowed them to muddle the waters and to turn our democracy into a mob rule.

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Mon 03/09/09 02:07 PM
Lets not forget that they gave power over our money to a private banking cartel, created an unconstitutional and immoral IRS system and handed off the count of our vote to corporate entities that refuse to allow anyone to see the source code, even though their machines have proven to be easily hackable that they have counted votes backwards or not counted the votes at all, let alone all the times they've added them. These same Corporate entities who have been granted the same rights as a person under the Constitution.

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