Topic: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Officially Launches
think2deep's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:14 AM




i'm not threatened by your lack of knowledge on the subject. because that's what it is.


Then it should be pretty easy to move on to another subject... right?


no, because i'm still being entertained by this one. i don't try to give any information anymore, it's not worth my time. but just arguing with them is just plain entertainment because all that will be accomplished with them is arguing about how arrogant i am lol. there is no substance to their methods, they just hate me and want to see me fall no matter what. because they are such sweethearts lol.


seriously..move on with your life. i don't hate you at all and never have. remember i defended you before (even though i didn't agree) i even apologized for hijacking the putin thread because it was getting to heated in there. that isn't someone that wants you to fall or hates you. you came at me first because i dared to disagee with you.




You do hate me, just admit it. when i even stop to say anything , it is just for entertainment purposes. i could sit here for hours and give you the information i have on the subject that would probably at the least make you realize that something is wrong with the official 9/11 story. i can give you credible sources, but to me it is wasted . therefor the only thing you get from me is laughter and entertainment. i'm sorry if that is unacceptable to you but it is acceptable to me. the funny part is that you guys think that you are getting under my skin. you're not. if someone truly wants to know what i know about the subject, then i will tell them and not feel i've wasted my time. explaining all that i know on the subject of 9/11 would fill up this whole forum. you guys wouldn't appreciate any info i tell you anyways because even if a well known architect has done his homework and shares it with people and i shared that info with you, you would automatically put it down because the info came through me. that would be a waste of my time. so yes i'm entertained and i will not waste my time giving you information anymore.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:15 AM
T2...if you want to have this childish debate....then we can do it in email like before. other than that...i'm not going to hijack this thread with your childishness.

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:16 AM



War,

There are alot of questions to be answered. Hopefully the investigative group that you showed on a thread can get to the bottom of it.


I sure hope so, even though there have been groups like Architects and Engineers for 9/11 that have far more credibility to me, because what they're doing to based on science. The political leaders site is important, because hopefully they can use their clout to kick the door open on this subject.

I firmly believe that no hijackers could have defeated our air defense system without help. When golfer Payne Stewart died, his plane had went off course and they had jets scrambled and on him within 10-20 minutes. Where were the Jets on 9/11? Especially after the first plane hit?

I could just keep this up all day, so i should stop!


I've learned a lot about it from you, War.


Now thats what I like to hear! :tongue:

Everything I post in here is about educating. I have my opinions and I promise I'm not afraid to post them, but I genuinely fear that a day is coming where I'm not going to have the ability to do this type of educational dissent.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:17 AM
everyone has their opinions. asking questions about other opinions help educate

wiley's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:18 AM



war....why should these theories be dismissed?

theories for 9/11:
1. US cover up - whether someone in power in the US had an agenda or they were covering up a mistake
2. the ones responsible for crashing the planes may have had someone in the Pentagon to let them know about the drill
3. it could be a weird coincidence.



A little devils advocate then...

Dismissing begins
1) If I were to try to dismiss this theory, I would start with the idea that Bush wouldn't be smart enough to pull this off on his own and that by invovling a cabal of people, there would be far too much risk that someone would blow the whistle. I would also go with the risk/reward. While the event could be used as a pretext for war and the erosion of civil liberties, to get caught would probably mean execution for treason.

2) The concept of spies inside the pentagon and other places of power isn't a new idea. In fact there has been ample proof that there have been spies operating in this country, one person, not all that long ago was arrested for passing on classified intel to the Chinese and there were quite a few Israelis who had been detained for spying. To dismiss it is quite easy though, because Norad was told to stand down, no spy would have that kind of authority.

3) what are the odds that on the very day that they are running drills involving flying hijacked planes into buildings in NY, that some terrorist jack offs would be flying planes into buildings in NY? Awful dang slim I would guess, in fact, if you could have guessed that would happen, then you should play the lotto... and fast! Also, true coincidence happens to be an extremely rare creature indeed.

"War doesn't go through my thought processes. He has better things to do with his time. He answers questions when people have them. He is not rude or condescending about it. He accepts the fact that people have different opinions. "



I have found it's better to attract bees with honey, than to bang the hive with a stick!







laugh ty war for answering me. but all of theories (regardless of how remote) are possible. we will never know without the evidence what is correct. we may never know but i do think it should be investigated


Truth be told, the evidence may never be available. And so what? People are still speculating about the JFK assassination.

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Mon 03/09/09 09:18 AM
** Please stay on topic and find a way to state your opinions without personal attacks or this thread will be locked.**

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:19 AM




War,

There are alot of questions to be answered. Hopefully the investigative group that you showed on a thread can get to the bottom of it.


I sure hope so, even though there have been groups like Architects and Engineers for 9/11 that have far more credibility to me, because what they're doing to based on science. The political leaders site is important, because hopefully they can use their clout to kick the door open on this subject.

I firmly believe that no hijackers could have defeated our air defense system without help. When golfer Payne Stewart died, his plane had went off course and they had jets scrambled and on him within 10-20 minutes. Where were the Jets on 9/11? Especially after the first plane hit?

I could just keep this up all day, so i should stop!


I've learned a lot about it from you, War.


Now thats what I like to hear! :tongue:

Everything I post in here is about educating. I have my opinions and I promise I'm not afraid to post them, but I genuinely fear that a day is coming where I'm not going to have the ability to do this type of educational dissent.


i'm glad you ladies have found someone you will believe.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:19 AM




war....why should these theories be dismissed?

theories for 9/11:
1. US cover up - whether someone in power in the US had an agenda or they were covering up a mistake
2. the ones responsible for crashing the planes may have had someone in the Pentagon to let them know about the drill
3. it could be a weird coincidence.



A little devils advocate then...

Dismissing begins
1) If I were to try to dismiss this theory, I would start with the idea that Bush wouldn't be smart enough to pull this off on his own and that by invovling a cabal of people, there would be far too much risk that someone would blow the whistle. I would also go with the risk/reward. While the event could be used as a pretext for war and the erosion of civil liberties, to get caught would probably mean execution for treason.

2) The concept of spies inside the pentagon and other places of power isn't a new idea. In fact there has been ample proof that there have been spies operating in this country, one person, not all that long ago was arrested for passing on classified intel to the Chinese and there were quite a few Israelis who had been detained for spying. To dismiss it is quite easy though, because Norad was told to stand down, no spy would have that kind of authority.

3) what are the odds that on the very day that they are running drills involving flying hijacked planes into buildings in NY, that some terrorist jack offs would be flying planes into buildings in NY? Awful dang slim I would guess, in fact, if you could have guessed that would happen, then you should play the lotto... and fast! Also, true coincidence happens to be an extremely rare creature indeed.

"War doesn't go through my thought processes. He has better things to do with his time. He answers questions when people have them. He is not rude or condescending about it. He accepts the fact that people have different opinions. "



I have found it's better to attract bees with honey, than to bang the hive with a stick!







laugh ty war for answering me. but all of theories (regardless of how remote) are possible. we will never know without the evidence what is correct. we may never know but i do think it should be investigated


Truth be told, the evidence may never be available. And so what? People are still speculating about the JFK assassination.


i don't think all the evidence will ever be available. and yes....many speculations about JFK. tourists here still take pictures of where he was shot with them standing on the site

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:21 AM



war....why should these theories be dismissed?

theories for 9/11:
1. US cover up - whether someone in power in the US had an agenda or they were covering up a mistake
2. the ones responsible for crashing the planes may have had someone in the Pentagon to let them know about the drill
3. it could be a weird coincidence.



A little devils advocate then...

Dismissing begins
1) If I were to try to dismiss this theory, I would start with the idea that Bush wouldn't be smart enough to pull this off on his own and that by invovling a cabal of people, there would be far too much risk that someone would blow the whistle. I would also go with the risk/reward. While the event could be used as a pretext for war and the erosion of civil liberties, to get caught would probably mean execution for treason.

2) The concept of spies inside the pentagon and other places of power isn't a new idea. In fact there has been ample proof that there have been spies operating in this country, one person, not all that long ago was arrested for passing on classified intel to the Chinese and there were quite a few Israelis who had been detained for spying. To dismiss it is quite easy though, because Norad was told to stand down, no spy would have that kind of authority.

3) what are the odds that on the very day that they are running drills involving flying hijacked planes into buildings in NY, that some terrorist jack offs would be flying planes into buildings in NY? Awful dang slim I would guess, in fact, if you could have guessed that would happen, then you should play the lotto... and fast! Also, true coincidence happens to be an extremely rare creature indeed.

"War doesn't go through my thought processes. He has better things to do with his time. He answers questions when people have them. He is not rude or condescending about it. He accepts the fact that people have different opinions. "



I have found it's better to attract bees with honey, than to bang the hive with a stick!







laugh ty war for answering me. but all of theories (regardless of how remote) are possible. we will never know without the evidence what is correct. we may never know but i do think it should be investigated

Thats why I do my very best to only post what's provable and when i post whats provable, is why I get so hot around the collar about the label "conspiracy theorist". I think that terms been used to discredit people, without checking into their claims first.

Thanks for the props though, i appreciate them, sometimes I wonder if I'm makine any impact at all!

wiley's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:22 AM

Thats why I do my very best to only post what's provable and when i post whats provable, is why I get so hot around the collar about the label "conspiracy theorist". I think that terms been used to discredit people, without checking into their claims first.

Thanks for the props though, i appreciate them, sometimes I wonder if I'm makine any impact at all!


We definitely have a place for conspiracy theorists. (not saying you are one lol) Without somebody asking questions we wouldn't know half of what our government has done over the years.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:24 AM
war...i don't consider you that at all.

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:24 AM
Dissent is Patriotism.


drinker

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Mon 03/09/09 09:26 AM

i'm glad you ladies have found someone you will believe.


I'm afraid you might never understand why we prefer to stick with War for this information. He doesn't see us as entertainment but people who might be interested in the other side, and not threatened that we might disagree on some of his topics. Your information is mixed with insults, not just for the women viewers but for the men who might also question your research or you for that matter. You might actually learn something from men who don't need to be condescending to get a point across.

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:27 AM

war...i don't consider you that at all.


I don't buy into Vatican assasins operating within the orders of the zionist alien anitchrist have moved to take us into a matrix grid.

I do buy that our government has feel victim to an unpublicized, mostly silent coup by transnationalists who want to carve this planet up for themselves.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:28 AM


war...i don't consider you that at all.


I don't buy into Vatican assasins operating within the orders of the zionist alien anitchrist have moved to take us into a matrix grid.

I do buy that our government has feel victim to an unpublicized, mostly silent coup by transnationalists who want to carve this planet up for themselves.


oh i know there are greedy people out there that would do anything to take over the world (my pinky and the brain theory lol)

but i do try to see all theories before i make an opinion


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Mon 03/09/09 09:28 AM



War,

There are alot of questions to be answered. Hopefully the investigative group that you showed on a thread can get to the bottom of it.


I sure hope so, even though there have been groups like Architects and Engineers for 9/11 that have far more credibility to me, because what they're doing to based on science. The political leaders site is important, because hopefully they can use their clout to kick the door open on this subject.

I firmly believe that no hijackers could have defeated our air defense system without help. When golfer Payne Stewart died, his plane had went off course and they had jets scrambled and on him within 10-20 minutes. Where were the Jets on 9/11? Especially after the first plane hit?

I could just keep this up all day, so i should stop!


I've learned a lot about it from you, War.


I have too! Thanks :smile:.

wiley's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:29 AM


war...i don't consider you that at all.


I don't buy into Vatican assasins operating within the orders of the zionist alien anitchrist have moved to take us into a matrix grid.

I do buy that our government has feel victim to an unpublicized, mostly silent coup by transnationalists who want to carve this planet up for themselves.


That I'll believe. Follow the money.

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/09/09 09:35 AM
Well the first thing you have to understand about these people is: They've already got tons of money, but to them power is what turns their crank and if you read some of their writings, like Brzezinskis "Grand Chessboard" you'd find out that they've been on the crank for awhile!

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Mon 03/09/09 09:40 AM
War, there are so many many groups that want power, which do you think want the most power.

America is made up of just about every nationality on earth rigth now, are you saying that we should fear that? I don't pretend to understand all this, but what I worry about the most is one group over all, wanting to divide everyone else.. Not sure I said that right.

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Mon 03/09/09 09:53 AM

War, there are so many many groups that want power, which do you think want the most power.

America is made up of just about every nationality on earth rigth now, are you saying that we should fear that? I don't pretend to understand all this, but what I worry about the most is one group over all, wanting to divide everyone else.. Not sure I said that right.


First, when you look at the power grabbers, they all seem to interlock at one level or another.

As far as America being made up of every Nationality, I don't have an issue with that, nor do I have an issue with people celebrating their heritage, but we have a Government that has stopped encouraging people to assimilate, when you can look at schools that have stopped teaching in english only, thats an issue. My example is: I took my buddy to get his GED. while he was taking the tests, i went to read what all the requirements were. The first thing I saw was that you can get your test in about a dozen languages. Now one of the tests is: English equivalency... what part of getting the English test in spanish/korean/japanese or portugeuse shows English equivalency?

Culture is good, but not when it's being used to keep us divided and at each others throats.

This is done, as it is with nonissues, like gay marriage, abortion, the right to choose medical treatments or drug use vs. Alcohol use, to keep us focused on each other and not paying attention to those who would like to see the planet under their thumb. We're so close to this "one world" system now that I'm truly frightened for our future. Obama had Gordon Brown, in the white house, talking about a "New Global Monetary Order" a "Global New Deal". I only hope that the American people can see that Globalism is one of the primary offenders that created this crisis and it's a no sale.