Topic: i think im going to enlist
Seakolony's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:05 PM


Good luck in your decision, and will definitely want updates you spunky thing you~~


hahaha flowerforyou i gotta vent some of this violent agression somewhere, right? ill definitely keep you posted.

A healthy way to release it or martial arts LOL

7z3r05's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:06 PM


From the little that you have revealed about yourself in this thread I would not recommend you going to military service.
The one absolute is you have to have the personality that you can totally submit to command authority no matter how senseless you might think it is. If you have a low frusteration tolerance you will be in melt down and then add being put out as yet another strike against you.
What the recruiter tells you is about as close to the truth as a whore telling you she is a virgin. The facts are once you sign the dotted line you are GI Government Issue (Property) and you cease to exist for any other purpose. They will use you as they please. Say what you want about a contract; you can't sue the military. All they will tell you when you want the training you sign up for is either you have washed out in that program or they will offer it later. You will STILL have to go through a civilian training and certification to qualify for outside employment and if you are over 34 when they finally let go of you You can forget it. That many municipalities do not want to hld your job open when you are repeatedly called back up it can actually be harder to find that kind of employment.
If you are extreamly smart, have excellent focus, and can work chroniclly sleep deprived, and don't mind your personal dreams being put on hold for maybe the next twenty years you can advance in rank and pay but the only way you will break even is if you remain single and live in the barracks. With more and more military houseing being sold off or condemed you may not have a choice in paying HUGE houseing costs to live within the restricted distance that is allowed.
If you have drug or alcohol problems they are most likely going to get a LOT worse because they are readily available night and day. Sometimes more so than running water. However when you crash and burn as a GI that means prison where ever you get busted and career over. If you have a mental breakdown you can count on courtmartial being more likely than treatment. Treatment modalities are nortoriously out of date. When they chapter you out they will stick you in a local state mental hospital and they will turn you to the street. The number of Homeless vets is a national disgrace but the public is totally unsympathetic toward spending more money to "fix" you. The lines for treatment at a VA facility are long and they are not going to give you a disability check for anything drug or alcohol related or amplified.
What few people talk about is the number of military members that end up severly injured in training or assaults from other military members. If you are not a "people" person and can not build alliances quickly and repeatedly you can count on being on the bottom of the pecking order.
It is nearly impossible to maintain friendships and family ties as a service member. You will not get home for holidays, birthdays, marriages, births, or deaths. They will make a big hoo-do about telling you how you can read to your kid over the computer but the reality is you won't see them but they will take child support out of your check and any other debt you run up regardless if you are left penniless. The divorce rate is very high as spouses get tired of the problems and absences and readily available substitutes.
If you are extreamly mentally tough, in excellent physical health, and don't need a lot of external validation go for it but don't go because you think it is romantic because it isn't.




so, how long were you in the service?



scared scared scared

7z3r05's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:07 PM



Good luck in your decision, and will definitely want updates you spunky thing you~~


hahaha flowerforyou i gotta vent some of this violent agression somewhere, right? ill definitely keep you posted.

A healthy way to release it or martial arts LOL


i need the cash money!!! GAH!!!

ashley_renee's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:07 PM

Slowly and carefully read what Pacific posted......

that sh*t is the Gospel TRUTH!


I read it .. and I think he should look at other options .. like trying to win the lottery.

sensualsweet's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:07 PM
All I can advise is that you NOT believe everything the recruiter tells you... They blow a lot of smoke up your azz just to get you to sign up. Just remember that all of those cream of the crop jobs in the service are not as plentiful as the recruiters make them out to be. But at least you will have job security. But it comes at a price... you lay your life on the line. The benefits and perks can be great, but only if you stay in for the full 20 years. If you don't stay the 20 years, you still get decent benefits through GI Bill and VA benefits.

It has its pros and cons. Good luck in your decision.

beachbum069's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:07 PM


My dad was a mechanic in the army and his best friend was a mechanic in the air force. Both ended up in Vietnam and only my dad made it out.


Even though that didn't help my point .. I'm sorry about your dad's best friend. flowers

My dad became the base drinking champion in his memory. O the things my dad does for his friends.

motowndowntown's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:08 PM







Renee'....if I was to join today....Air Force....for sure. That is still no guarantee that I wouldn't be put in the middle of a sh*t Storm but, it definitely drops the odds.

That's what I thought 38 years ago.


But it had to have SOME level of safeness .. you're here now.

I was lucky.


There are so many fields once you get into a branch, though.
This guy I know joined the AirForce but he's a mechanic ... no danger whatsoever.

You'd like to think so. But one of the first things they aim the rockets and mortars at is the airplanes.


But being a mechanic .. you're not IN the airplane.
You're back on the base in your safe little building.

You're back at the base in a revetment working on the airplanes that they aim the rockets and mortars at.

no photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:09 PM

I think im going to join the military. any advice? Stories? Anecdotes? Suggestions? anyone wanna beg me not to go? lol. im kinda nervous but its money and free emt training...

I did.\, the first time in 1977, the latest was in 2006.
What branch (service) are you going for? What job?
I've got lots of anecdotes and opinions.

Seakolony's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:09 PM




Good luck in your decision, and will definitely want updates you spunky thing you~~


hahaha flowerforyou i gotta vent some of this violent agression somewhere, right? ill definitely keep you posted.

A healthy way to release it or martial arts LOL


i need the cash money!!! GAH!!!

Boxing?? UFC?? Wrestling?? street fighting for money?? JK I hope you do well in all your endeavors:smile:

ashley_renee's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:10 PM

You're back at the base in a revetment working on the airplanes that they aim the rockets and mortars at.


I don't know what a revetment is.. =/
But they don't aim the rockets when the plane is on the ground under a roof.
You can't see them there.

ashley_renee's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:11 PM





Good luck in your decision, and will definitely want updates you spunky thing you~~


hahaha flowerforyou i gotta vent some of this violent agression somewhere, right? ill definitely keep you posted.

A healthy way to release it or martial arts LOL


i need the cash money!!! GAH!!!

Boxing?? UFC?? Wrestling?? street fighting for money?? JK I hope you do well in all your endeavors:smile:


I heard prostituting makes good money.

motowndowntown's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:12 PM

Slowly and carefully read what Pacific posted......

that sh*t is the Gospel TRUTH!

The service will be what you make of it. Can it be dangerous? Yes.
Can you learn something? yes. Can it ruin families and turn you into a junkie or leave you homeless? Only if you let it. Some of what Star said may be, MAY BE, the truth, but it isn't "Gospel".

7z3r05's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:12 PM


I think im going to join the military. any advice? Stories? Anecdotes? Suggestions? anyone wanna beg me not to go? lol. im kinda nervous but its money and free emt training...

I did.\, the first time in 1977, the latest was in 2006.
What branch (service) are you going for? What job?
I've got lots of anecdotes and opinions.


heres the scoop my student loans arent going to happen for next semester... i need my emt paramedic training so i can become a firefighter. i think hey, army offers paramedic, looks good on a civil service resume, and pays as well.

so im kinda stuck here weighing out my options and trying to find a decent path.


7z3r05's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:13 PM





Good luck in your decision, and will definitely want updates you spunky thing you~~


hahaha flowerforyou i gotta vent some of this violent agression somewhere, right? ill definitely keep you posted.

A healthy way to release it or martial arts LOL


i need the cash money!!! GAH!!!

Boxing?? UFC?? Wrestling?? street fighting for money?? JK I hope you do well in all your endeavors:smile:


haha. i did boxing when i was a lot younger but my rents didnt like me getting hit in the head a lot. so they pulled me.

motowndowntown's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:19 PM


You're back at the base in a revetment working on the airplanes that they aim the rockets and mortars at.


I don't know what a revetment is.. =/
But they don't aim the rockets when the plane is on the ground under a roof.
You can't see them there.

A revetment is where they park the planes, a bunker, a reinforced hanger. And you bet they aim the rockets at the planes when they're on the ground. They are much easier to hit that way. And one of the first things they bomb????? the airfields.

wannacuddlewthme's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:20 PM
Quit talking about it and do it...You will be out of there in 2011

7z3r05's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:21 PM

Quit talking about it and do it...You will be out of there in 2011


sounds like my dad! lol. youre probably right.

no photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:24 PM

Like I said guys...just check your options...recruitment is down and the recruiters are desperate.....

Take your time. Use your head. This can work out nicely for you. Just focus on trying to keep your @ss out of the line of fire.


Recruitment numbers - that depends. MN National Guard is at 125& strength. That means we have too many soldiers, and a wait list to get in.


ashley_renee's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:25 PM



You're back at the base in a revetment working on the airplanes that they aim the rockets and mortars at.


I don't know what a revetment is.. =/
But they don't aim the rockets when the plane is on the ground under a roof.
You can't see them there.

A revetment is where they park the planes, a bunker, a reinforced hanger. And you bet they aim the rockets at the planes when they're on the ground. They are much easier to hit that way. And one of the first things they bomb????? the airfields.


But if they're under a roof .. how do they know they're in there?

motowndowntown's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:29 PM




You're back at the base in a revetment working on the airplanes that they aim the rockets and mortars at.


I don't know what a revetment is.. =/
But they don't aim the rockets when the plane is on the ground under a roof.
You can't see them there.

A revetment is where they park the planes, a bunker, a reinforced hanger. And you bet they aim the rockets at the planes when they're on the ground. They are much easier to hit that way. And one of the first things they bomb????? the airfields.


But if they're under a roof .. how do they know they're in there?

They watch them. Or they just randomly shoot a bunch of stuff at something and hope they hit something. And you know what? Sometimes they do.