Topic: i think im going to enlist
ashley_renee's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:44 PM



Renee'....if I was to join today....Air Force....for sure. That is still no guarantee that I wouldn't be put in the middle of a sh*t Storm but, it definitely drops the odds.


Please Krupa, call me Ashley. :smile:
Renee is my middle name, haha.




Alright, I made your decision for you ... you're going to enlist in the AirForce if you're going to enlist. :thumbsup: laugh


haha. thanks for that! i suck at making decisions.


Most of the time I just close my eyes and pick.
That won't work for this, though. Haha.

I also close my eyes when swiping my credit card if the amount of my purchase is a lot. slaphead

ashley_renee's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:45 PM


Renee'....if I was to join today....Air Force....for sure. That is still no guarantee that I wouldn't be put in the middle of a sh*t Storm but, it definitely drops the odds.

That's what I thought 38 years ago.


But it had to have SOME level of safeness .. you're here now.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:45 PM



I think im going to join the military. any advice? Stories? Anecdotes? Suggestions? anyone wanna beg me not to go? lol. im kinda nervous but its money and free emt training...


drinker It was one of the best decisions I ever madedrinker


thats what im thinking. i think i would really get my **** together for once and walk out with a good chunk of change and the paramedic training i need!

plus i think it might be a little fun as well. i know. its nuts, but im serious. i have never been a big school guy and loved the physical aspects of my jobs. its just the time commitment that scares me but hey, im done second guessing. i think im gonna do this... but i will need a good pen pal...


bigsmile excellentbigsmile

Snugglesbyfire's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:46 PM
I agree with the air force. From everything that I learned when my son was going to enlist he was told to go into the air force because it was the best if you were going to make it a career

krupa's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:47 PM


Renee'....if I was to join today....Air Force....for sure. That is still no guarantee that I wouldn't be put in the middle of a sh*t Storm but, it definitely drops the odds.


Please Krupa, call me Ashley. :smile:
Renee is my middle name, haha.




Alright, I made your decision for you ... you're going to enlist in the AirForce if you're going to enlist. :thumbsup: laugh


It's cool Ashley.....(My sister's name is Renee' so I just went with that one)

Like I said guys...just check your options...recruitment is down and the recruiters are desperate.....

Take your time. Use your head. This can work out nicely for you. Just focus on trying to keep your @ss out of the line of fire.

7z3r05's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:47 PM




I think im going to join the military. any advice? Stories? Anecdotes? Suggestions? anyone wanna beg me not to go? lol. im kinda nervous but its money and free emt training...


drinker It was one of the best decisions I ever madedrinker


thats what im thinking. i think i would really get my **** together for once and walk out with a good chunk of change and the paramedic training i need!

plus i think it might be a little fun as well. i know. its nuts, but im serious. i have never been a big school guy and loved the physical aspects of my jobs. its just the time commitment that scares me but hey, im done second guessing. i think im gonna do this... but i will need a good pen pal...


bigsmile excellentbigsmile


you gonna be my pen pal mirror? lol.

motowndowntown's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:49 PM



Renee'....if I was to join today....Air Force....for sure. That is still no guarantee that I wouldn't be put in the middle of a sh*t Storm but, it definitely drops the odds.

That's what I thought 38 years ago.


But it had to have SOME level of safeness .. you're here now.

I was lucky.

Seakolony's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:49 PM
Good luck in your decision, and will definitely want updates you spunky thing you~~

ashley_renee's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:49 PM



Renee'....if I was to join today....Air Force....for sure. That is still no guarantee that I wouldn't be put in the middle of a sh*t Storm but, it definitely drops the odds.


Please Krupa, call me Ashley. :smile:
Renee is my middle name, haha.




Alright, I made your decision for you ... you're going to enlist in the AirForce if you're going to enlist. :thumbsup: laugh


It's cool Ashley.....(My sister's name is Renee' so I just went with that one)

Like I said guys...just check your options...recruitment is down and the recruiters are desperate.....

Take your time. Use your head. This can work out nicely for you. Just focus on trying to keep your @ss out of the line of fire.


Yeah, keep your @ss out of the line of fire.
Got it, boy? =P

ashley_renee's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:50 PM




Renee'....if I was to join today....Air Force....for sure. That is still no guarantee that I wouldn't be put in the middle of a sh*t Storm but, it definitely drops the odds.

That's what I thought 38 years ago.


But it had to have SOME level of safeness .. you're here now.

I was lucky.


There are so many fields once you get into a branch, though.
This guy I know joined the AirForce but he's a mechanic ... no danger whatsoever.

PacificStar48's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:51 PM
From the little that you have revealed about yourself in this thread I would not recommend you going to military service.
The one absolute is you have to have the personality that you can totally submit to command authority no matter how senseless you might think it is. If you have a low frusteration tolerance you will be in melt down and then add being put out as yet another strike against you.
What the recruiter tells you is about as close to the truth as a whore telling you she is a virgin. The facts are once you sign the dotted line you are GI Government Issue (Property) and you cease to exist for any other purpose. They will use you as they please. Say what you want about a contract; you can't sue the military. All they will tell you when you want the training you sign up for is either you have washed out in that program or they will offer it later. You will STILL have to go through a civilian training and certification to qualify for outside employment and if you are over 34 when they finally let go of you You can forget it. That many municipalities do not want to hld your job open when you are repeatedly called back up it can actually be harder to find that kind of employment.
If you are extreamly smart, have excellent focus, and can work chroniclly sleep deprived, and don't mind your personal dreams being put on hold for maybe the next twenty years you can advance in rank and pay but the only way you will break even is if you remain single and live in the barracks. With more and more military houseing being sold off or condemed you may not have a choice in paying HUGE houseing costs to live within the restricted distance that is allowed.
If you have drug or alcohol problems they are most likely going to get a LOT worse because they are readily available night and day. Sometimes more so than running water. However when you crash and burn as a GI that means prison where ever you get busted and career over. If you have a mental breakdown you can count on courtmartial being more likely than treatment. Treatment modalities are nortoriously out of date. When they chapter you out they will stick you in a local state mental hospital and they will turn you to the street. The number of Homeless vets is a national disgrace but the public is totally unsympathetic toward spending more money to "fix" you. The lines for treatment at a VA facility are long and they are not going to give you a disability check for anything drug or alcohol related or amplified.
What few people talk about is the number of military members that end up severly injured in training or assaults from other military members. If you are not a "people" person and can not build alliances quickly and repeatedly you can count on being on the bottom of the pecking order.
It is nearly impossible to maintain friendships and family ties as a service member. You will not get home for holidays, birthdays, marriages, births, or deaths. They will make a big hoo-do about telling you how you can read to your kid over the computer but the reality is you won't see them but they will take child support out of your check and any other debt you run up regardless if you are left penniless. The divorce rate is very high as spouses get tired of the problems and absences and readily available substitutes.
If you are extreamly mentally tough, in excellent physical health, and don't need a lot of external validation go for it but don't go because you think it is romantic because it isn't.



7z3r05's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:52 PM

Good luck in your decision, and will definitely want updates you spunky thing you~~


hahaha flowerforyou i gotta vent some of this violent agression somewhere, right? ill definitely keep you posted.

beachbum069's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:52 PM
My dad was a mechanic in the army and his best friend was a mechanic in the air force. Both ended up in Vietnam and only my dad made it out.

7z3r05's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:53 PM




Renee'....if I was to join today....Air Force....for sure. That is still no guarantee that I wouldn't be put in the middle of a sh*t Storm but, it definitely drops the odds.


Please Krupa, call me Ashley. :smile:
Renee is my middle name, haha.




Alright, I made your decision for you ... you're going to enlist in the AirForce if you're going to enlist. :thumbsup: laugh


It's cool Ashley.....(My sister's name is Renee' so I just went with that one)

Like I said guys...just check your options...recruitment is down and the recruiters are desperate.....

Take your time. Use your head. This can work out nicely for you. Just focus on trying to keep your @ss out of the line of fire.


Yeah, keep your @ss out of the line of fire.
Got it, boy? =P



i know i know... i got ya. reading you loud and clear.

motowndowntown's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:54 PM





Renee'....if I was to join today....Air Force....for sure. That is still no guarantee that I wouldn't be put in the middle of a sh*t Storm but, it definitely drops the odds.

That's what I thought 38 years ago.


But it had to have SOME level of safeness .. you're here now.

I was lucky.


There are so many fields once you get into a branch, though.
This guy I know joined the AirForce but he's a mechanic ... no danger whatsoever.

You'd like to think so. But one of the first things they aim the rockets and mortars at is the airplanes.

krupa's photo
Mon 03/02/09 05:55 PM
Slowly and carefully read what Pacific posted......

that sh*t is the Gospel TRUTH!

motowndowntown's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:03 PM

From the little that you have revealed about yourself in this thread I would not recommend you going to military service.
The one absolute is you have to have the personality that you can totally submit to command authority no matter how senseless you might think it is. If you have a low frusteration tolerance you will be in melt down and then add being put out as yet another strike against you.
What the recruiter tells you is about as close to the truth as a whore telling you she is a virgin. The facts are once you sign the dotted line you are GI Government Issue (Property) and you cease to exist for any other purpose. They will use you as they please. Say what you want about a contract; you can't sue the military. All they will tell you when you want the training you sign up for is either you have washed out in that program or they will offer it later. You will STILL have to go through a civilian training and certification to qualify for outside employment and if you are over 34 when they finally let go of you You can forget it. That many municipalities do not want to hld your job open when you are repeatedly called back up it can actually be harder to find that kind of employment.
If you are extreamly smart, have excellent focus, and can work chroniclly sleep deprived, and don't mind your personal dreams being put on hold for maybe the next twenty years you can advance in rank and pay but the only way you will break even is if you remain single and live in the barracks. With more and more military houseing being sold off or condemed you may not have a choice in paying HUGE houseing costs to live within the restricted distance that is allowed.
If you have drug or alcohol problems they are most likely going to get a LOT worse because they are readily available night and day. Sometimes more so than running water. However when you crash and burn as a GI that means prison where ever you get busted and career over. If you have a mental breakdown you can count on courtmartial being more likely than treatment. Treatment modalities are nortoriously out of date. When they chapter you out they will stick you in a local state mental hospital and they will turn you to the street. The number of Homeless vets is a national disgrace but the public is totally unsympathetic toward spending more money to "fix" you. The lines for treatment at a VA facility are long and they are not going to give you a disability check for anything drug or alcohol related or amplified.
What few people talk about is the number of military members that end up severly injured in training or assaults from other military members. If you are not a "people" person and can not build alliances quickly and repeatedly you can count on being on the bottom of the pecking order.
It is nearly impossible to maintain friendships and family ties as a service member. You will not get home for holidays, birthdays, marriages, births, or deaths. They will make a big hoo-do about telling you how you can read to your kid over the computer but the reality is you won't see them but they will take child support out of your check and any other debt you run up regardless if you are left penniless. The divorce rate is very high as spouses get tired of the problems and absences and readily available substitutes.
If you are extreamly mentally tough, in excellent physical health, and don't need a lot of external validation go for it but don't go because you think it is romantic because it isn't.




so, how long were you in the service?

ashley_renee's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:05 PM






Renee'....if I was to join today....Air Force....for sure. That is still no guarantee that I wouldn't be put in the middle of a sh*t Storm but, it definitely drops the odds.

That's what I thought 38 years ago.


But it had to have SOME level of safeness .. you're here now.

I was lucky.


There are so many fields once you get into a branch, though.
This guy I know joined the AirForce but he's a mechanic ... no danger whatsoever.

You'd like to think so. But one of the first things they aim the rockets and mortars at is the airplanes.


But being a mechanic .. you're not IN the airplane.
You're back on the base in your safe little building.

scttrbrain's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:05 PM

From the little that you have revealed about yourself in this thread I would not recommend you going to military service.
The one absolute is you have to have the personality that you can totally submit to command authority no matter how senseless you might think it is. If you have a low frusteration tolerance you will be in melt down and then add being put out as yet another strike against you.
What the recruiter tells you is about as close to the truth as a whore telling you she is a virgin. The facts are once you sign the dotted line you are GI Government Issue (Property) and you cease to exist for any other purpose. They will use you as they please. Say what you want about a contract; you can't sue the military. All they will tell you when you want the training you sign up for is either you have washed out in that program or they will offer it later. You will STILL have to go through a civilian training and certification to qualify for outside employment and if you are over 34 when they finally let go of you You can forget it. That many municipalities do not want to hld your job open when you are repeatedly called back up it can actually be harder to find that kind of employment.
If you are extreamly smart, have excellent focus, and can work chroniclly sleep deprived, and don't mind your personal dreams being put on hold for maybe the next twenty years you can advance in rank and pay but the only way you will break even is if you remain single and live in the barracks. With more and more military houseing being sold off or condemed you may not have a choice in paying HUGE houseing costs to live within the restricted distance that is allowed.
If you have drug or alcohol problems they are most likely going to get a LOT worse because they are readily available night and day. Sometimes more so than running water. However when you crash and burn as a GI that means prison where ever you get busted and career over. If you have a mental breakdown you can count on courtmartial being more likely than treatment. Treatment modalities are nortoriously out of date. When they chapter you out they will stick you in a local state mental hospital and they will turn you to the street. The number of Homeless vets is a national disgrace but the public is totally unsympathetic toward spending more money to "fix" you. The lines for treatment at a VA facility are long and they are not going to give you a disability check for anything drug or alcohol related or amplified.
What few people talk about is the number of military members that end up severly injured in training or assaults from other military members. If you are not a "people" person and can not build alliances quickly and repeatedly you can count on being on the bottom of the pecking order.
It is nearly impossible to maintain friendships and family ties as a service member. You will not get home for holidays, birthdays, marriages, births, or deaths. They will make a big hoo-do about telling you how you can read to your kid over the computer but the reality is you won't see them but they will take child support out of your check and any other debt you run up regardless if you are left penniless. The divorce rate is very high as spouses get tired of the problems and absences and readily available substitutes.
If you are extreamly mentally tough, in excellent physical health, and don't need a lot of external validation go for it but don't go because you think it is romantic because it isn't.





This is not all necessarily true. My son just went through a thing with the army where he is at. He refused to hand to hand combat due to medical reasons of giant sores on the arms of the other guys. He read his stuff and knows what he wasn't supposed to do. Well, he had to write a letter explaining why and see a comander a few days later. He was ready to face whatever was coming. Also in the same time frame he was making his way up to the inspector general or someone like that to complain about being on bases two months with no training going on. He was pissed and worried about that.

It was about a week later he was called along with another to join another unit....it turns out to be a good thing. He may not have to stay in combat positions, except he has also been chosen as(if this one doesn't work out) secondary as a sort of special unit to a special convoy to protect someone important which is very scarey.

The job he has been told is his.... is radio communication for a higher up.???I don't get it. But.....if it keeps him safer...then YYYYEEEEEAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

( I may not be telling this right) He will fill me in later.

Kat

ashley_renee's photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:05 PM

My dad was a mechanic in the army and his best friend was a mechanic in the air force. Both ended up in Vietnam and only my dad made it out.


Even though that didn't help my point .. I'm sorry about your dad's best friend. flowers