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Topic: Arizona to Secede from Union, if Martial Law is Declared!
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Mon 03/02/09 01:58 PM
If you wish your State, if it has not already done so, to follow with Arizona, copy this form and send it to your State Reps and your Governor. Ask them to protect the citizens from the Federal Government in the event of Martial Law.

Arizona to Secede from Union, if Martial Law is Declared!

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REFERENCE TITLE: abolish federal government; state sovereignty

State of Arizona
House of Representatives
Forty-fourth Legislature
Second Regular Session
2000

HCR 2034
Introduced by
Representatives Johnson, Cooley

A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

PROPOSING THE DISSOLUTION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IF CERTAIN CONDITIONS OCCUR.

(TEXT OF BILL BEGINS ON NEX More..T PAGE)

Whereas, on July 4, 1776, our founding fathers proclaimed that the people had the right to alter or abolish their government and declared thirteen British colonies to be free and independent, or sovereign, states; and

Whereas, on March 1, 1781, the thirteen states formed a central government they called the United States of America under a charter known as the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union, which stated that "each state retains its sovereignty, freedom and independence"; and

Whereas, on September 17, 1787, the leaders of the Continental Congress signed the present Constitution of the United States, which was then transmitted to the thirteen states for ratification and the formation of a new central government; and

Whereas, several of the states delayed ratification of the Constitution and three states made clear their position regarding sovereignty by stating that "the powers of government may be resumed by the people whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness"; and

Whereas, eventually all thirteen of the independent states ratified the Constitution of the United States and joined the new Union, while retaining their sovereignty as states. The states made the new central government sovereign only to the extent that the states delegated to it limited and specific powers; and

Whereas, the Constitution of the United States is merely a treaty among sovereigns, and under treaty law when one party violates the treaty the other parties are automatically released from further adherence to it unless they wish to continue; and

Whereas, the fifty current principals, or signatories, to the treaty have done well in honoring and obeying it, yet the federal agent has, for decades, violated it in both word and spirit. The many violations of the Constitution of the United States by the federal government include disposing of federal property without the approval of Congress, usurping jurisdiction from the states in such matters as abortion and firearms rights and seeking control of public lands within state borders; and

Whereas, under Article V, Constitution of the United States, three-fourths of the states may abolish the federal government. In the alternative, if the states choose to exercise their inherent right as sovereigns, fewer than thirty-eight states may lawfully choose to ignore Article V, Constitution of the United States, and establish a new federal government for themselves by following the precedent established by Article VII, Constitution of the United States, in which nine of the existing thirteen states dissolved the existing Union under the Articles of Confederation and automatically superceded the Articles.

Therefore.....<a href=""http://www.azleg.state.az.us/legtext/44leg/2r/bills/hcr2034p.htm"" target="_blank">Click here for the rest of the bill.</a>

Dragoness's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:00 PM
I wrote to my representatives but you can bet it was not even close to this letter.....lol

raiderfan_32's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:01 PM
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/legtext/44leg/2r/bills/hcr2034p.htm

ljcc1964's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:03 PM
smokin

Winx's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:03 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 03/02/09 02:10 PM
Willing2,

How is that going to make things better?

We're supposed to be working together to try to fix this mess.




boredinaz06's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:09 PM



I Believe there's about a Dozen States that on Board to Do this!

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:16 PM

Willing2,

How is that going to make things better?

We're supposed to be working together to try to fix this mess.






hopefully we will be seceding together to fix this mess.

Winx's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:22 PM


Willing2,

How is that going to make things better?

We're supposed to be working together to try to fix this mess.






hopefully we will be seceding together to fix this mess.


I hope not.

Free2Bahappy1's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:22 PM
that's the dumbest idea.
Arizona ... making it on their own...
PLEASE!!~!
Any state for that matter ... even TEXAS - the best state of all couldn't pull that one off!

Hambone1's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:23 PM
do you really want to go there again???

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:24 PM
yeah, i do want to go there again. we don't need the federal government to tell us what to do, they have already made a fine mess of things, maybe you guys have forgotten in this short amount of time.

willing2's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:25 PM
Martial Law isn't a viable fix.
Foreclosures. These foreclosures started several years ago. So far there are only a million or so, displaced families. Every day, the numbers grow.
How many of those displaced are living in the streets?
How many have lost their jobs?
How many of those are getting desperate to feed their families? Desperate people who will do desperate things just to survive.
I don't know when the riots and angry protests will begin because of people, who used to be dignified are now, yes now, starving or dying from exposure.
All the Feds need for Martial Law is that Million plus, cold, starving, angry crowd to riot or protest.
I keep hearing, in time. They need to eat every day. How much time? A body can go a week or so without food. How many will have to die before they are fed, clothed, housed? Picture someone you know. Lost their job, house, unemployment ran out, and the news reports the Family Found Frozen to Death Living in a Tent.

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:30 PM
when our forefathers founded this great nation we started out as seperate states. when the bankers from england decided that this separation was not good for them, they funded a war to abolish the separation of states. what's good for the bankers is not good for the people. go figure.

Hambone1's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:30 PM
i think you have forgoten how many americans died in the most horific war we have ever been in.when we war with our selfs,there is no winner!!!

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:31 PM
no one is asking for us to war with ourselves, we are asking to war with the bankers.

Hambone1's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:31 PM
and where did you go to school.

Hambone1's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:33 PM
if any state threatens that you know what will hapen,right?

Winx's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:34 PM

if any state threatens that you know what will hapen,right?


Yes.:cry:

willing2's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:35 PM

when our forefathers founded this great nation we started out as seperate states. when the bankers from england decided that this separation was not good for them, they funded a war to abolish the separation of states. what's good for the bankers is not good for the people. go figure.

The thirteen original States have to stay the way they are.
50-13=37
I think 37 United States could whoop 13 colonies. Hawaii and Alaska could be the cheerleader sections.

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/02/09 02:37 PM
ask abraham lincoln where he went to school if you don't believe him either. here it is from the horses mouth:

"I have two great enemies, the southern army in front of me and the financial institutions, in the rear. Of the two, the one in the rear is the greatest enemy..... I see in the future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of the war." - Abraham Lincoln

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