Topic: SOVEREIGNTY??
InvictusV's photo
Sat 02/28/09 07:28 AM

Maryland....

It took 7 years to ratify the Constitution. The first President was elected by only 11 States.
Your State ratified the constitution without the Bill of Rights!
Two States held out until the Bill of Rights were added.
Do you even know which ones?

Article 10 was a requirement of these two States before they would ratify the Constitution. Not so Maryland. Maryland ratified the constitution without a single one.




I live in maryland, but I was born and raised in Pennsylvania. I am a member of The National Society Sons of the American Revolution, so don't lecture me on the founding of this country.

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Sat 02/28/09 07:42 AM
I started working at age 14,,,and then and before then WE ALL PAID TAXES,MEDICARE,SOCIAL SECURITY.....for our selves and FOR EVERYONE to SHARE FROM. If ALL OF THIS WAS FIRST DONE "RIGHT",,,we would ALL have still paid these monies into a trust that PAID MEDICAL for this NATION,,and GAVE us ALL, A REAL RETIREMENT POLICY,,,,that WE ALREADY have had to PAY FOR...just my thoughts...

Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/28/09 10:05 AM


Maryland....

It took 7 years to ratify the Constitution. The first President was elected by only 11 States.
Your State ratified the constitution without the Bill of Rights!
Two States held out until the Bill of Rights were added.
Do you even know which ones?

Article 10 was a requirement of these two States before they would ratify the Constitution. Not so Maryland. Maryland ratified the constitution without a single one.




I live in maryland, but I was born and raised in Pennsylvania. I am a member of The National Society Sons of the American Revolution, so don't lecture me on the founding of this country.


Penn ratified the Constitution without the Bill of Rights.
Next!

Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/28/09 10:07 AM
It took 7 years to ratify the Constitution. The first President was elected by only 11 States.
Your State ratified the constitution without the Bill of Rights!
Two States held out until the Bill of Rights were added.
Do you even know which ones?


Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/28/09 10:08 AM


Maryland....

It took 7 years to ratify the Constitution. The first President was elected by only 11 States.
Your State ratified the constitution without the Bill of Rights!
Two States held out until the Bill of Rights were added.
Do you even know which ones?

Article 10 was a requirement of these two States before they would ratify the Constitution. Not so Maryland. Maryland ratified the constitution without a single one.

Delaware not Maryland!!


Nope!

Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/28/09 10:11 AM
Deleware was the first.
No Bill of rights.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/28/09 10:32 AM
Pennsylvannia was the second State to ratify the Constitution.
No Bill of Rights.

Winx's photo
Sun 03/01/09 11:23 PM

The Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Here is where Mr Obama is going to have a problem pushing his socialist agenda.


Ummm..this country already has a form of socialism in it. We pay taxes and they're distributed around.

no photo
Mon 03/02/09 06:51 AM


The Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Here is where Mr Obama is going to have a problem pushing his socialist agenda.


Ummm..this country already has a form of socialism in it. We pay taxes and they're distributed around.


When the Federal government 'gives away' money you become part of their system and fall under their jurisdiction. You have sold out to the system. States fall under Federal regulations and are told what to do. If they try to do it their own way, daddy threatens to take away their allowance.

States and people need to find their own independence and stop paying to and taking money from the Federal government. Just divorce them.


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Mon 03/02/09 07:03 AM



The Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Here is where Mr Obama is going to have a problem pushing his socialist agenda.


Ummm..this country already has a form of socialism in it. We pay taxes and they're distributed around.


When the Federal government 'gives away' money you become part of their system and fall under their jurisdiction. You have sold out to the system. States fall under Federal regulations and are told what to do. If they try to do it their own way, daddy threatens to take away their allowance.

States and people need to find their own independence and stop paying to and taking money from the Federal government. Just divorce them.



You can see that in the way the Fed Gov. has handled Illegal Immigration. If DHS was serious about it, they would threaten to withold Fed. funds.

no photo
Mon 03/02/09 07:12 AM




The Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Here is where Mr Obama is going to have a problem pushing his socialist agenda.


Ummm..this country already has a form of socialism in it. We pay taxes and they're distributed around.


When the Federal government 'gives away' money you become part of their system and fall under their jurisdiction. You have sold out to the system. States fall under Federal regulations and are told what to do. If they try to do it their own way, daddy threatens to take away their allowance.

States and people need to find their own independence and stop paying to and taking money from the Federal government. Just divorce them.



You can see that in the way the Fed Gov. has handled Illegal Immigration. If DHS was serious about it, they would threaten to withold Fed. funds.


The New World Order agenda is to open the borders between Mexico and America, and Canada and America. They intend to make all of this American Continent into one, so they are not interested in any moves to build a wall or to keep anyone out.

They are currently, as we type, building a super highway from Mexico to Canada through Texas for transporting goods (and troops) across the continent.


willing2's photo
Mon 03/02/09 07:24 AM





The Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Here is where Mr Obama is going to have a problem pushing his socialist agenda.


Ummm..this country already has a form of socialism in it. We pay taxes and they're distributed around.


When the Federal government 'gives away' money you become part of their system and fall under their jurisdiction. You have sold out to the system. States fall under Federal regulations and are told what to do. If they try to do it their own way, daddy threatens to take away their allowance.

States and people need to find their own independence and stop paying to and taking money from the Federal government. Just divorce them.



You can see that in the way the Fed Gov. has handled Illegal Immigration. If DHS was serious about it, they would threaten to withold Fed. funds.


The New World Order agenda is to open the borders between Mexico and America, and Canada and America. They intend to make all of this American Continent into one, so they are not interested in any moves to build a wall or to keep anyone out.

They are currently, as we type, building a super highway from Mexico to Canada through Texas for transporting goods (and troops) across the continent.



I am very familiar with Trans Pecos Highway. Construction was started in Laredo.
Mexico and South America are working the Trans Continental Hwy. from The Panama Canal. China, at this moment, is helping widening the Canal.
China has benn dealing with South America, setting up trade agreements with them. They may already have factories there.

Winx's photo
Mon 03/02/09 07:53 AM
Edited by Winx on Mon 03/02/09 08:15 AM

I started working at age 14,,,and then and before then WE ALL PAID TAXES,MEDICARE,SOCIAL SECURITY.....for our selves and FOR EVERYONE to SHARE FROM. If ALL OF THIS WAS FIRST DONE "RIGHT",,,we would ALL have still paid these monies into a trust that PAID MEDICAL for this NATION,,and GAVE us ALL, A REAL RETIREMENT POLICY,,,,that WE ALREADY have had to PAY FOR...just my thoughts...


The same with me, Iam4u. I started working when I was 13 years old.


I feel that it's our responsibility to pay taxes and help others.





no photo
Mon 03/02/09 08:06 AM






The Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Here is where Mr Obama is going to have a problem pushing his socialist agenda.


Ummm..this country already has a form of socialism in it. We pay taxes and they're distributed around.


When the Federal government 'gives away' money you become part of their system and fall under their jurisdiction. You have sold out to the system. States fall under Federal regulations and are told what to do. If they try to do it their own way, daddy threatens to take away their allowance.

States and people need to find their own independence and stop paying to and taking money from the Federal government. Just divorce them.



You can see that in the way the Fed Gov. has handled Illegal Immigration. If DHS was serious about it, they would threaten to withold Fed. funds.


The New World Order agenda is to open the borders between Mexico and America, and Canada and America. They intend to make all of this American Continent into one, so they are not interested in any moves to build a wall or to keep anyone out.

They are currently, as we type, building a super highway from Mexico to Canada through Texas for transporting goods (and troops) across the continent.



I am very familiar with Trans Pecos Highway. Construction was started in Laredo.
Mexico and South America are working the Trans Continental Hwy. from The Panama Canal. China, at this moment, is helping widening the Canal.
China has benn dealing with South America, setting up trade agreements with them. They may already have factories there.


Like I have said, it is all about business and world economy and trade. We may have to start thinking globally very soon.

Its all about business.


Fanta46's photo
Mon 03/02/09 09:17 AM
It took 7 years to ratify the Constitution. The first President was elected by only 11 States.
Those 11 States ratified the constitution without the Bill of Rights attached!
Two States held out until the Bill of Rights were added.
Do you even know which ones?

Article 10 was a requirement of these two States before they would ratify the Constitution.

All these constitutional experts and still no correct answer.

Winx's photo
Mon 03/02/09 09:20 AM
I don't know.tears

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/02/09 09:21 AM


I started working at age 14,,,and then and before then WE ALL PAID TAXES,MEDICARE,SOCIAL SECURITY.....for our selves and FOR EVERYONE to SHARE FROM. If ALL OF THIS WAS FIRST DONE "RIGHT",,,we would ALL have still paid these monies into a trust that PAID MEDICAL for this NATION,,and GAVE us ALL, A REAL RETIREMENT POLICY,,,,that WE ALREADY have had to PAY FOR...just my thoughts...


The same with me, Iam4u. I started working when I was 13 years old.


I feel that it's our responsibility to pay taxes and help others.








winx, my stomach is turning while i'm thinking and typing this because it makes me sad, i wish i didn't know this, honestly. the taxes you pay to the irs, goes right back to the federal reserve to pay the interest on the loans that our government has procured from them.

the irs was formed in 1913 along with the federal reserve act, in order that we would pay off the federal reserve loans directly. basically they are a collection agency for the fed. i have the first commercial that the irs put out on tv. it has donald duck on it. a jukebox is telling donald duck that our country is about to go to war and needs his help. he comes back with a pot on his head and a bunch of survival gear and a gun. the jukebox tells him they don't need that kind of help. it turns out that they say that they were needing taxes to be paid. before the war, no one paid these taxes. it was that commercial that coined the idea that paying your taxes was patriotic.

Fanta46's photo
Mon 03/02/09 09:22 AM

I don't know.tears


I'll tell you winx.flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Mon 03/02/09 09:26 AM


I don't know.tears


I'll tell you winx.flowerforyou


Thanks.bigsmile flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Mon 03/02/09 09:30 AM



I started working at age 14,,,and then and before then WE ALL PAID TAXES,MEDICARE,SOCIAL SECURITY.....for our selves and FOR EVERYONE to SHARE FROM. If ALL OF THIS WAS FIRST DONE "RIGHT",,,we would ALL have still paid these monies into a trust that PAID MEDICAL for this NATION,,and GAVE us ALL, A REAL RETIREMENT POLICY,,,,that WE ALREADY have had to PAY FOR...just my thoughts...


The same with me, Iam4u. I started working when I was 13 years old.

I feel that it's our responsibility to pay taxes and help others.




winx, my stomach is turning while i'm thinking and typing this because it makes me sad, i wish i didn't know this, honestly. the taxes you pay to the irs, goes right back to the federal reserve to pay the interest on the loans that our government has procured from them.

the irs was formed in 1913 along with the federal reserve act, in order that we would pay off the federal reserve loans directly. basically they are a collection agency for the fed. i have the first commercial that the irs put out on tv. it has donald duck on it. a jukebox is telling donald duck that our country is about to go to war and needs his help. he comes back with a pot on his head and a bunch of survival gear and a gun. the jukebox tells him they don't need that kind of help. it turns out that they say that they were needing taxes to be paid. before the war, no one paid these taxes. it was that commercial that coined the idea that paying your taxes was patriotic.


My taxes help pay for street repairs, firefighters, police officers, parks, city street lights, trash pick-up, and more.

Teachers get paid, schools, highways get built, poor people get help, etc, etc., etc., etc,, etc.