Topic: CNBC Anchors Mortified
Lynann's photo
Fri 02/27/09 11:37 AM
Really anyone has to be quite simple to believe news that comes from any single source.

Check sources, consult multiple sources...umm well you all know or should know how to do that.

FOX, MSNBC, ABC, NBC...and every internet poster...everyone has an editorial point of view and views reality through their own lens.

If this surprises you...well...it's too late to explain it now.

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Fri 02/27/09 11:41 AM
I've given up on the news

you can't get a straight story from any of them

every news outlet distorts and manipulates the news to reflect their own agenda driven formatting

and that applies to ALL of them

think2deep's photo
Fri 02/27/09 11:44 AM
another agreement quiet. wow, this is a change lol.

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Fri 02/27/09 11:46 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Fri 02/27/09 11:47 AM
the thing to keep in mind is that all news sources are driven by advertising revenue

they sell a certain demographic to the advertisers. So they present the news in such a way as to keep that demographic watching the commercials. They tell their audience what they want to hear so they'll keep watching

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Fri 02/27/09 11:51 AM


“This is the end of an era,” said Paul, “we can’t reinflate the bubble….if we think that we can reinflate this bubble by artificially creating credit out of thin air and calling it capital, believe me we don’t have a prayer of solving these problems - we have a total misunderstanding of what credit is versus capital.”



so because they didn't agree, they pulled the plug??? what happened to freedom of speech?


There is still a freedom of speech. Ron Paul is free to speak anywhere he wants to.

But the freedom of speech doesn't mean that he can come to some mass media headquarter and demand an airtime. There is no such thing as freedom of airtime.

Now, of course there ought to be. But there not. Airwaves are despotically managed by FCC, a bureaucratic organization of government morons.

But let us say there was. Again, nobody has to give him the use of their equipment that takes the message to the airwaves. This is all private property. No one, but the owner should have all the power over how it is used.

Ron Paul support all of this. His problem is not that mass media won't let him on. His problem is that most Americans have lost every little thing that makes them Americans, except their passport (Dragoness). They should have boycoted mass media for a month or two, letting them know how badly mass media depends on their audiences.

This is how American do it. He does not demand that Ron Paul be aired by law. That's what a commie would demand, if a commie was into Ron Paul. A real American simply makes his choice. But he also knows about his choice. His choice isn't based on a desire to rob others. It is based on an understanding, that anyone will be robbed, until no one is.


I know...I missed that part. remember i'm working on no sleep here

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Fri 02/27/09 11:54 AM

the thing to keep in mind is that all news sources are driven by advertising revenue

they sell a certain demographic to the advertisers. So they present the news in such a way as to keep that demographic watching the commercials. They tell their audience what they want to hear so they'll keep watching


That's exactly right, however the public then thinks it only applys the stations they don't like. LOL To me it applys to them all. I have to listen to people I don't like as well as to those I do like to piece things together and even then I can't be absolutly sure I have the whole story.

think2deep's photo
Fri 02/27/09 12:14 PM
the bankster gangsters are the ones that don't want you to hear the truth, they own the media. go figure frustrated

think2deep's photo
Fri 02/27/09 12:15 PM
matter of fact, have you guys watched the hulu.com commercial on tv? if you haven't run over to their website and watch it. you will see the most truth in advertising you've ever seen lol.

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Fri 02/27/09 12:50 PM
Didn't get the impression they were trying to censor Ron Paul. It appears Ron Paul got his statement out. But it DOES appear that they didn't want people like Ron Paul to raise doubt about our system. But that's speculation.

I have however seen censorship of Dr. Paul during the primaries. Treated like absolute crap. His name was even left out of some of the polls and he was the only one not invited to certain rallys and such.

I do find it assuring that Bernanke actually agrees with Dr. Paul on his view of how our system works. In fact, i haven't heard anyone question Ron Pauls views, only his ideas. Their arguements against him are weak and unsupported. This is why I would have loved to see him debate McCain and Obama in the elections.

One thing i do find disturbing. Ralph Nader, a member of the constitutionalist party was on the ballot in 45 out of 50 states. Why in the hell wasn't he allowed to debate with McCain and Obama?

Things that make you go hmmmmmm....

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Fri 02/27/09 02:06 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 02/27/09 02:07 PM

Dr. Paul seems to know what he's talking about. He's the only one that explains it, and seems to be practically the only one standing up to the constitution. Funny thing is, while many economists disagree with him, they don't mention where he is wrong, nor do they offer a better plan.

Dr. Paul has this soldiers allegience...drinker



What Ron Paul and most Americans don't know is that the constitution does not apply to us anymore as members of the corporation of the United States of America which is totally bankrupt and beholding to the powers that be who took our wealth and gave us worthless Federal reserve notes.

You are not protected by the constitution anymore. You are property. You are the asset for the debt incurred. You have no voice. There is no freedom of speech. This is the situation.



s1owhand's photo
Fri 02/27/09 02:13 PM
laugh mortified? more like "highly amused"... laugh

this is nothing that we haven't heard before. paul has a
valid point but borrowing from future generations probably
can work as long as future generations can pay...and that
is the trillion dollar question.

can our kids and their kids and their kid's kids pay up?
it all depends on how our economy develops...

so the answer remains. maybe. but cnbc anchors just appear
to be bemused by the rambling...

go ron go!

drinker rant drinker

you tell 'em!!

laugh

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 02/27/09 02:22 PM

laugh mortified? more like "highly amused"... laugh

this is nothing that we haven't heard before. paul has a
valid point but borrowing from future generations probably
can work as long as future generations can pay...and that
is the trillion dollar question.

can our kids and their kids and their kid's kids pay up?
it all depends on how our economy develops...

so the answer remains. maybe. but cnbc anchors just appear
to be bemused by the rambling...

go ron go!

drinker rant drinker

you tell 'em!!

laugh


In order for future generations to "pay", the American population would have to double, quick, then it would have to double again shortly after. Then, the majority of the people would have to have jobs, most decent paying, and they would have to take out more and more loans. This process would have to repeat with every generation. This is the way we set ourselves up.


Our planet would break within the next 3 or 4 generations....

Unless we perfected space travel and colonized planets....

Hmmmm....

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Fri 02/27/09 02:25 PM

nogames, just a quick question, do you believe that our money is created from thin air or don't you?


The answer depends on which approximation level you're asking me.

On the first approximation, our money is created from debt.

On the second, it is created from the thin air.

On the third, and last one, our money is created from purchasing power confiscated from anyone holding US dollars.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 02/27/09 02:25 PM


Dr. Paul seems to know what he's talking about. He's the only one that explains it, and seems to be practically the only one standing up to the constitution. Funny thing is, while many economists disagree with him, they don't mention where he is wrong, nor do they offer a better plan.

Dr. Paul has this soldiers allegience...drinker



What Ron Paul and most Americans don't know is that the constitution does not apply to us anymore as members of the corporation of the United States of America which is totally bankrupt and beholding to the powers that be who took our wealth and gave us worthless Federal reserve notes.

You are not protected by the constitution anymore. You are property. You are the asset for the debt incurred. You have no voice. There is no freedom of speech. This is the situation.





Right. But if people are educated about this, and if enough people believe in the constitution, wouldn't that give power back to it?

The constitution is an idea. The piece of paper its written on is as worthless as our current money. But belief in the philosophies make us wiser...

There may be no way out for us. Who knows. But the important thing, is for people to (at least believe) they have a fighting chance...

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Fri 02/27/09 02:28 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Fri 02/27/09 02:28 PM

I've given up on the news

you can't get a straight story from any of them

every news outlet distorts and manipulates the news to reflect their own agenda driven formatting

and that applies to ALL of them
The big news, is big media. Big media are the #1 largest lobby in Washington . . . .

nogames39's photo
Fri 02/27/09 02:31 PM

What Ron Paul and most Americans don't know is that the constitution does not apply to us anymore as members of the corporation of the United States of America which is totally bankrupt and beholding to the powers that be who took our wealth and gave us worthless Federal reserve notes.

You are not protected by the constitution anymore. You are property. You are the asset for the debt incurred. You have no voice. There is no freedom of speech. This is the situation.


This presumption requires a law to be adhered to. Which is that law?

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Fri 02/27/09 02:41 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 02/27/09 02:50 PM


What Ron Paul and most Americans don't know is that the constitution does not apply to us anymore as members of the corporation of the United States of America which is totally bankrupt and beholding to the powers that be who took our wealth and gave us worthless Federal reserve notes.

You are not protected by the constitution anymore. You are property. You are the asset for the debt incurred. You have no voice. There is no freedom of speech. This is the situation.


This presumption requires a law to be adhered to. Which is that law?


This is the situation.

The United States of America is a Corporation. It is a bankrupt corporation. It is owned. Laws are now just statutes of the corporation. (You only think you have law.)

It's all owned and operated by a criminal organization. There are no laws. Lawyers are sworn in by the company and are sworn to secrecy.

"America" is still a country, but the "United States of American" is a corporation. Federal reserve notes are loans. They are not real money. They are promissory notes. I.O.U.'s . They represent debt.


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Fri 02/27/09 02:48 PM



Dr. Paul seems to know what he's talking about. He's the only one that explains it, and seems to be practically the only one standing up to the constitution. Funny thing is, while many economists disagree with him, they don't mention where he is wrong, nor do they offer a better plan.

Dr. Paul has this soldiers allegience...drinker



What Ron Paul and most Americans don't know is that the constitution does not apply to us anymore as members of the corporation of the United States of America which is totally bankrupt and beholding to the powers that be who took our wealth and gave us worthless Federal reserve notes.

You are not protected by the constitution anymore. You are property. You are the asset for the debt incurred. You have no voice. There is no freedom of speech. This is the situation.





Right. But if people are educated about this, and if enough people believe in the constitution, wouldn't that give power back to it?

The constitution is an idea. The piece of paper its written on is as worthless as our current money. But belief in the philosophies make us wiser...

There may be no way out for us. Who knows. But the important thing, is for people to (at least believe) they have a fighting chance...


People will eventually give in to the New World Order and the New Government. Americans are totally dependent on them already. Boarders will be open throughout all of North America, Canada, Mexico, etc.

People who cling to and worship the constitution will be viewed as trouble makers. (Look at John Paul.) Constitutional cases in court are buried and not allowed to be used or sited by lawyers or to change and law.

What the new government wants are people who work, pay taxes, and spend spend spend. Its all about business and consumers.

Think about it that way. Its just business. Government truly does not give a rats ass about people unless there is money to be made.




nogames39's photo
Fri 02/27/09 02:54 PM


This presumption requires a law to be adhered to. Which is that law?


This is the situation.

The United States of America is a Corporation. It is a bankrupt corporation. It is owned. Laws are now just statutes of the corporation. (You only think you have law.)

It's all owned and operated by a criminal organization. There are no laws. Lawyers are sworn in by the company and are sworn to secrecy.

"America" is still a country, but the "United States of American" is a corporation. Federal reserve notes are loans. They are not real money. They are promissory notes. I.O.U.'s . They represent debt.




So, there is no law. Then there can be no corporation. Because a corporation is a construct of the law. You contradict yourself.

s1owhand's photo
Fri 02/27/09 03:02 PM


laugh mortified? more like "highly amused"... laugh

this is nothing that we haven't heard before. paul has a
valid point but borrowing from future generations probably
can work as long as future generations can pay...and that
is the trillion dollar question.

can our kids and their kids and their kid's kids pay up?
it all depends on how our economy develops...

so the answer remains. maybe. but cnbc anchors just appear
to be bemused by the rambling...

go ron go!

drinker rant drinker

you tell 'em!!

laugh


In order for future generations to "pay", the American population would have to double, quick, then it would have to double again shortly after. Then, the majority of the people would have to have jobs, most decent paying, and they would have to take out more and more loans. This process would have to repeat with every generation. This is the way we set ourselves up.


Our planet would break within the next 3 or 4 generations....

Unless we perfected space travel and colonized planets....

Hmmmm....


actually the situation is not that dire. the capability for
future generations to pay up is still very good.

The US GDP is in the neighborhood of $14 trillion/yr. so a
few trillion spread out over a generation is no big deal as
long as the deficit spending slows rather than remains high
or accelerates. The belt tightening and increased savings and
reduced debt is coming one way or another but we must become
more productive, efficient savers and it will affect our lives
and the lives of our children. But don't underestimate the
power of the world's largest economy...there is still a fair
amount of oomph there and foreign customers.

but short term, banks reeling from the fraudulent credit swaps
and shadow debt market are going to be very wary about lending
and this could cause a great deal of disruption in how
business short to midterm cash needs are financed...but it has
already eased substantially and should continue to improve...

:smile: