Yes, anyone can make up anything. Especially the mainstream media. Who is to believe ANYTHING they say. Everybody knows they are owned by the globalist fascist Corporations, yet because people see it on TV, it is somehow more believabe? They even ADMIT they lie to us.

And guess who is responsible for most of the disinformation on the internet? The very same people. They do put out stories to try to discredit the real ones. So, yes, you do have to be careful about what you believe. At least you have a 50/50 chance of truth on the internet. With the mainstream media, 0% chance of the truth.


This story is pretty provable:
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Albert Pike - Freemason: Founder of the KKK

Aug 25, 2008
In the heart of Washington, D.C., there is a large statue and monument honoring the most important founder of the Ku Klux Klan. Inscribed on the base of the statue are the words,``poet''--the terrorist anthem of the KKK was his most famous literary work--and ``jurist''--he was called the KKK's chief judiciary officer, and reputedly wrote the organization manual for the terrorist anti-black movement after the U.S. Civil War.

The immense, bearded figure of Confederate General Albert Pike is looming over a public square in the nation's capital. Why has it never been pulled down in that predominantly black city? The statue is a tribute to the influence of Pike's organization. It has power in the Executive Branch, and the Congress, and it is decisive in the courts. It has great power in all branches of law enforcement and the military.

Do I mean that the Ku Klux Klan has such sway over the government? No, I'm speaking here of the ``Scottish Rite of Freemasonry Southern Jurisdiction,'' of which Pike was the chief, or ``Sovereign Grand Commander.'' The Ku Klux Klan, the Southern Confederacy, and the pre-Civil War secession movement were a single, continuous project, with Pike's ``Scottish Rite'' at its center. Though the Confederacy was defeated, this project lives on today, and now dominates U.S. political life.

Look at Baker & Botts, the Houston family firm and power base of Secretary of State James A. Baker III. This law firm was formed after the Civil War by die-hard Confederate and Masonic officials in Albert Pike's Scottish Rite and military clique. With their British imperial racial notions, Baker & Botts and Scottish Rite freemasonry have dominated the Texas power structure ever since.

Secretary Baker's grandfather, Captain James A. Baker, brought English race scientist Julian Huxley in to supervise the ``race purification'' study program for Texas, at Rice University. Secretary Baker's family wealth and power came from their representing Harriman, the international oil companies and George Bush's Zapata Petroleum, all sponsors of the population control, or ban-dark-babies movement.

This clique of British philosophical liberals had a few other experiments in human misery, for example: the East India Company, the royal African Company of slavers, and the slave colony of South Carolina. The Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, in particular, has a feudalist lore and legend, that is rooted in the black slave trade through the Caribbean Islands. In those islands, the pagan cults of slavers in ancient Rome, and Venice, were reused as anti-Judeo-Christian or Satanic cults and rituals for the amusement and gratification of the slave-traders, the British, Dutch, Bostonian, and Jewish-ethnic slave runners. The Scottish Rite was formally organized in the U.S.A. in 1801, as a group of Tory partisans on the losing side of the American Revolution.

But if the Rite is not specifically Christian, is it anti-Christian? We may judge this from Sovereign Grand Commander Pike's words, on his {method}, and on the {true religion}. In Pike's book,{Morals and Dogma,} the Scottish Rite's main guide to the universe, he explains his method:``Magic is the science of the ancient magi....``Magic unites in one and the same science, whatsoever Philosophy can possess that is most certain, and Religion of the Infallible and the Eternal.

It perfectly ... reconciles these two terms ... faith and reason ... those who accept [magic] as a rule may give their will a sovereign power that will make them the masters of all inferior beings and of all errant spirits; that is to say, will make them the Arbiters and Kings of the World....'' Pike wrote this particular section to instruct ``Sublime Princes of the Royal Secret'' gentlemen of the 32nd Degree, such as was Bill Clinton's preacher. Thus, Pike is an illusionist, a conjurer, teaching his priesthood the means of controlling their squads of initiates.

But what is the underlying belief? In France in 1889, Pike said: "That which we must say to the crowd is, we worship a God, but it is the God one adores without superstition.... The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN Doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay (the God of the Christians) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion to science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?

``Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two Gods.... Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.'' This quote, by the way, is available in French and English in the Albert Pike vertical file at the library of the Scottish Rite Southern Jurisdiction at 1733 16th St. NW, Washington D.C.
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It is kind of hard to deny something written in a book for all to see, a book that is sort of a Masonic Bible at that!

I am not sure I see the point. Are you reinforcing the OP that religious belief tends to generate and support inhuman ideas and behavior?

One particular type of religion: Luciferianism, which has many names: Illuminati, masons, ect. But always they will be in positions of power and making life miserable for people.

Everyone knows Sobodan Milosovich and the Serbs were the bad guys....right?
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THE MEDIA AND THE DEMONIZATION OF THE SERBS
by Marjaleena Repo
Tuesday, March 30, 1999

The Yugoslavian government has just expelled some journalists from NATO countries from its territory. This is deplored by the media as “censorship,” but in some of us it has created a strange sense of relief: perhaps now there will be a ceasefire in the 10-year disinformation campaign about the Yugoslavian conflict in general and the Serbs in particular. Or at least the “journalists” (few actually deserve the name) have to declare that what they are talking about is unverified rumour and hearsay since they are nowhere near the scene. Up to this point they have been able to create the false impression that they have witnessed the events they report on.

The Western media's relentless demonization of the Serbs of Yugoslavia has, however, produced a very predictable (and no doubt, wished-for) result: a truly genocidal assault on the Serbian people by Western military might, Canada to its eternal shame participating, breaking every relevant international covenant and treaty.

The pack-journalism over the last ten years has also succeeded in hoodwinking many Canadians into thinking that what is at stake is the good-riddance of a Serbian Hitler who has attempted a "final solution" of sorts on assorted ethnic groups in Yugoslavia. A lot of well-intentioned people are cheering the bombing of yet another pariah nation into the Stone Age. With the accumulated effects of media rumour-mongering and willful disinformation, who can blame these folks for their barely controlled blood thirst? After all, because Hitler wasn't stopped in time, millions perished in concentration camps, goes the heart-felt argument.

Yet the labelling of Yugoslavia's Serb leaders as Hitlers — and the Serbs themselves as brutal, subhuman monsters — is a familiar trick from recent history. It has been perpetuated by the various hired hands, PR firms, who have worked overtime for the various ethnic groups pushing for secession which would utterly destroy the once well-functioning, multi-ethnic Yugoslavian federation and replace it with small nation-states which ethnically cleansed themselves (Croatia, for instance, expelled between 500,000 and a million Serbs from its territory.) The media has merely carried the message of these "hidden hands" of the Balkan conflict.

The world was shocked to find out that a PR firm, Hill and Knowlton, had manufactured the "incubator babies" incident in Kuwait which precipitated the Gulf War: Iraqi soldiers ripping Kuwaiti babies out of incubators in a genocidal fashion. Phony eywitnesses to this atrocity tearfully testified in front of U.S. politicians and the media, adding to public support for the subsequent bombing of Iraq and contributing hugely to the demonization of the Iraqis, leaders and citizens alike. Even Amnesty International was taken in by the falsehood, which was later exposed as such, but only after the military damage was done.

Yet the shock of being duped soon wore off and gullibility returned. In no time another American PR firm, Ruder Finn, working for the Croatian and Bosnian separatists, publicly bragged that it had been able to turn world opinion against the Serbs. In April 1993 on French television, James Harff, the director of Ruder Finn, described his proudest public relations effort as having "managed to put Jewish opinion on our [Croatian and Bosnian] side." This was a "sensitive matter," he added, as "the Croatian and Bosnian past was marked by real and cruel anti-semitism. Tens of thousands of Jews perished in Croatian camps... Our challenge was to reverse this attitude and we succeeded masterfully. At the beginning of July 1992, New York Newsday came out with the article on Serb camps.

We jumped at the opportunity immediately. We outwitted three big Jewish organizations.... That was a tremendous coup. When the Jewish organizations entered the game on the side of the [Muslim] Bosnians we could promptly equate the Serbs with the Nazis in the public mind. Nobody understood what was happening in Yugoslavia.... By a single move, we were able to present a simple story of good guys and bad guys which would hereafter play itself. We won by targeting the Jewish audience. Almost immediately there was a clear change of language in the press, with the use of words with high emotional content such as ethnic cleansing, concentration camps, etc, which evoke images of Nazi Germany and the gas chambers of Auschwitz. "

The PR firm was piling hoax upon hoax. The famous story of Serb concentration camps was built on a photo of a gaunt man surrounded by others, staring at the viewer from behind barbed wire; surely an image to chill one to the bones. It took years before a German journalist Thomas Deichman, in an article titled "The picture that fooled the world," described how the famous photo was staged by its takers, British journalists, who were photographing the inhabitants from inside barbed wire which was protecting agricultural products and machinery from theft in a refugee and transit camp; the men stood outside of it; and at no time was there a barbed-wire fence surrounding the camp. But by that time the image had done its deed, terminally slamming the Serbs as genocidal mass murderers.

There are countless other stories, all deliberately maligning the Serbs to further the ends of military intervention. These stories and photos of "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing" (a la Hitler) in a civil war, in which Serbs are guilty as sin and others are their innocent victims, are repeated ad nauseam by western reporters without the slightest evidence, and have provided the ground for the public's (hopefully only temporary) acceptance of the illegal and brutal war against the sovereign nation of Yugoslavia. They continue after NATO's bombing began, unabated, with new absurdities such as the suggestion that the Serbs are really bombing themselves. Perhaps in the war crimes court there will soon be a place for journalists and PR firms who with their inflammatory reporting and fraudulent actions cause wars to begin.


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They must not be very good at keeping secrets . . .

"Religion breeds atrocity"

Always has always will.

When I read the title of this thread, I can't help think of the 150 million native south and central american indians that have been tortured, whipped, and forced as slaves and eventually died because of it by the portugese and spaniards.

Then we look at another 50 million native american indians who have been killed by dutch, english, french, and also american people in which the church supported these actions.

over 200 million natives simply slaughtered for raw materials or land in the name of a god because "god whilst it!"

and not one single day anywhere in the world do we have a day of mourning that every nationality especially those who have done this atrocity mourn and learn from the event.

yet the 6 million jews we have holocaust museums

yet in japan when the atomic bombs blew up two towns killing civilians we have a mourning day

we have a memorial day for all the soldiers who fought and lost their lives such as the world wars and the civil war

but nothing for the native indians???

Not even a sorry?

Well let me be the first to really say "sorry" for the atrocities that the european and north americans did to the native indians and I would love it to make it into the books as a day off for everyone to reflect on.

200 million in total!!! Think about that for a moment.

singular self preservation pick from the fine delicacies planned for the faithful follower???

the want of self decide which religion most benefit itself, and destroy anything that it touch???

it does not take a religion to blind a human into thinking unconditional love of self is unconditional love of other's???

the belief in rights of self is a demonic ghost that mesmorize the mind, turning kind speaking promising wolves into friends, and impassioned truth speaking friends to foe's???

misery has always veiled itself as flattery???

the guise that love is to be found for self, preserve, enforce, and perpetuate all the religions of the realms of hell???

if it is not best for all, then it is best for none.

Early missionaries the new world would steal children away from heathen natives who refused to convert, so they could be raised in a civilized christain environment.

thank you for the message wise one

I can only shed tears for those who where treated unfairly in this matter

religion doesn't breed atrocity....mankind does

but that's just my opinion for what it's worth

yet some used religion to justify their actions in accordance to what they learned from what they have studied on that religion. Remember for many religion is a guide line on how one should live.

Imagine if that particular person wasn't exposed to religion. Perhaps such atrocities wouldn't have happened.

For example: Missionaries who steal children to try to civilize them in a christian manner, because they think that how they lived was wrong or not civilized enough.

How horrible that must have been for the mothers of natives to see their child taken away.

All because the missionary (and many they were) believed that what the bible teaches is the (correct way one should live).

So they enforced their belief system rather the child wanted it or not against the parents will believing they are civilizing those who believe in a different spiritual path.

This is very true as this happened throughout the americas. The native indian reservation I visit each weekend has natives that are well past their 90's who tell of the stories of how they were forced to learn christianity or have dire consequences. The problem is that America will not write that in history books.

I think religion does not breed atrocities in and of itself. It starts with something much worse. Like the crusades were horrible and all, and yes they supposedly killed in the name of God, but was that the real reason? That was what they were told. They weren't divinely inspired to do those horrible acts, they just used religion to justify it. And then with Hitler. He I guess identified himself with christianity, but his whole thought process was based on the philosophy of atheists. People are just bad through and through. I seriously think if there were no major religions in the world, people would still find a way to kill and torture and whatever else.

some warp the beliefs into their own twisted ways. atrocities aren't exclusive to one belief

you are very right about some people. but it's some people is my point

i'm Christian but i actually feel bad if i go off on someone let alone physically do something. i go and apologize because of it.

i can't defend other peoples actions....just my own. but religion hasn't made me think i need to hurt others....and in truth....it breaks my heart to see someone in pain.

maybe i am misunderstanding the term here. the belief (i should say)
doesn't breed it. a religion that mankind formed based on warping a belief does

that make sense?

The real reason for the Crusades is to get the people out of the dark ages for poverty was on the rise, work was in a decline, and questions of faith were being asked. The Pope at the time knew that if he promoted the crusades the nobles, lords, as of knights would find action again, get land, find gold and riches, and maybe even answers from their particular religion where Jesus once roamed Jerusalem. Therefore, he promoted the idea of the Crusades to get the country out of the slum. Everyone followed his lead and try to reclaim the lands under Christian rule, yet Saladin made sure this conquest didn't last forever.

Concerning Germany, which suffered a world war 1 loss, experienced poverty, no work, and shame, Hitler found a way to motivate the people, to create work, be proud of their race, and to rebuild the country into a strong econonomic power. He knew that the majority of the people where Christian and prayed daily in hopes for better times. He used religion to help get him in power. I am sure he himself was a follower also, maybe not as dedicated then most, but he believed in a God, if not later in his life believed he himself was a God one point or another.

So yes religion can breed atrocity and at the same time it can breed peace. It can go both ways, but in the end one asks is it all worth it.

Could there have been more peace without religion or could there have been more atrocities without it?

That is something we will never know, yet you will have many say yes without religion we would have had more peace and some will say no we would have had it worser.

In the end something we can all contemplate on.

this (I think) is where I'm using terms different than you

take the crusades....the idea maybe was good....the way it went about wasn't

to me...anyone that did that wasn't right.

Main Entry: 1Chris·tian
Pronunciation: \ˈkris-chən, ˈkrish-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin christianus, adjective & noun, from Greek christianos, from Christos
Date: 1526
1 a: one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ b (1): disciple 2 (2): a member of one of the Churches of Christ separating from the Disciples of Christ in 1906 (3): a member of the Christian denomination having part in the union of the United Church of Christ concluded in 1961
2: the hero in Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress

which i believe a christian follows Jesus' teachings. the problem is some forget the 3 main scriptures I try to live by.

those people in the salem witch hunts etc...weren't following their own beliefs....instead they warped them to justify what they did

well you must understand that we live in different times now also.

Fortunately if someone has a different belief system they will not get persecuted. They might get a few rolls from the eyes, or called weird, but in the end we can all practice different belief systems if we like.

What is important is that one can wake up in the morning happy and pleased with their belief system whatever that maybe.

or for that matter no belief system at all.

All I can say is wow are we lucky, for I hate to have been a native american forced to learn christianity if I am totally contempt with the belief system I already have.

or can say hey I am a atheist and I don't believe in all that spiritual stuff

or say I am agnostic and don't know

or the other 2000 and more belief systems available to the world.

One has the "freedom" to choose what works best for them.

That is a blessing in itself

That movie made me angry.