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Topic: Texas Representatives Introduce Resolution
nogames39's photo
Sat 02/21/09 04:16 PM
These people (K.Marx and F.Engels) thought thoroughly as to what needs to be do in order to insure that the country in question drops in hell for foreseeable future. These planks are not to be take lightly.

More than thought through, these planks were tested by many countries, and all of them dropped in hell, and some of them are still are in hell, as they are unable to let go some of the planks due to their dumb population.

nogames39's photo
Sat 02/21/09 04:19 PM

you'll have to ask him that part. I was just curious if it had to do with texas lol


No, I just saw him saying he had a history with Texas, and I thought "Wow, man, how can you go from a proud Texan to a commie?".

A personal choice. And that is the part I support.

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 02/21/09 05:42 PM
not sure about the commie part...but most texans i know are proud lol


some too proud (ME!)bigsmile

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 02/21/09 05:42 PM
not sure about the commie part...but most texans i know are proud lol


some too proud (ME!)bigsmile

Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/21/09 06:46 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 02/21/09 06:48 PM
10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes [land owned by government, rented to users for so-called property tax].

Nope! Never..

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax

Added by you! [meaning rich pay more than poor].
That's not what it means, but Nope! Never said that. If you could understand what the words really meant Id be glad to answer it in more detail.

3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.

Again, Nope.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

Ehhh,,,, Illegal immigrants is all Ive ever complained about. Never really said that I would confiscate their property but it is a good idea..

5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

Once again. Your words; [so-called central bank, FED in US), and [to issue legal tender].
The Federal Reserve is a quasi-public (government entity with private components) banking system. It is not the Centralized banking system used by the Communist govs. Although they may have copied parts of it, as have most govs around the globe. The reason for them copying it is because it is one of the soundest most successful systems in the world. I doubt you have any real understanding of its complexities.



6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

Never talked about this but many countries have shown great succes in this area. I wouldnt mind the US enacting some kind of gov rail sytem. Most I know of are extremely successful.


7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

Never talked about this either, but the US during WWII did direct factories to produce military needed equipment first, and have reserved the authority to do so again.

8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

LMAO!
Are you out of your mind!

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equal distribution of the population over the country.

LOL
I think you are hallucinating now!

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.[6]

You added this; [brainwashing] Why? I have no idea....
I believe everyone has an equal right to an education though!

According to the Communist Manifesto, all these were prior conditions for a transition from capitalism to communism, but Marx and Engels later expressed a desire to modernize this passage.[7]


Where do you come up with this chit? Are you having comprehension problems or just that mad that I dished Ron Paul. (A Dr, by trade! Not an economist.)noway noway laugh laugh laugh


yellowrose10's photo
Sat 02/21/09 06:58 PM
FOR THE RECORD...fanta and I DO NOT share a gene pool lol

nogames39's photo
Sat 02/21/09 07:14 PM


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes [land owned by government, rented to users for so-called property tax].

Nope! Never..



So, then I am counting on you to be against the property taxes?



2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax

Added by you! [meaning rich pay more than poor].
That's not what it means, but Nope! Never said that. If you could understand what the words really meant Id be glad to answer it in more detail.



Enlighten me, as to what progressive income tax really means. If you choose simple words, I might be even able to follow you line of thought.


3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.

Again, Nope.



I did not say all 10 apply to your views. So, you are against the inheritance tax of any kind on any amounts?



4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

Ehhh,,,, Illegal immigrants is all Ive ever complained about. Never really said that I would confiscate their property but it is a good idea..


Same as above. Currently, US confiscates property of emigrants. Just so you know.



5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

Once again. Your words; [so-called central bank, FED in US), and [to issue legal tender].
The Federal Reserve is a quasi-public (government entity with private components) banking system. It is not the Centralized banking system used by the Communist govs. Although they may have copied parts of it, as have most govs around the globe. The reason for them copying it is because it is one of the soundest most successful systems in the world. I doubt you have any real understanding of its complexities.


We are safe as long as you do understand it.
My only point was to show that you support National Bank, Central Bank, Federal Reserve. Obviously, you need to twist the meaning a bit. It's o.k. All commies do. FED is a Central Bank because it is:

In the hands of the state;
Has state capital;
Has an exclusive monopoly.
The only reason it is private, is to create an illusion that it is not controlled by the state. But, whatever.




6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

Never talked about this but many countries have shown great succes in this area. I wouldnt mind the US enacting some kind of gov rail sytem. Most I know of are extremely successful.



So, you support it. Good.



7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

Never talked about this either, but the US during WWII did direct factories to produce military needed equipment first, and have reserved the authority to do so again.



I am guessing you do support this too. This means nationalization and a planned economy.




8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

LMAO!
Are you out of your mind!



You do not support trade unions?



9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equal distribution of the population over the country.

LOL
I think you are hallucinating now!



I had to post a complete quote, unabridged, or you'd complain that it is a half truth. You already complaining about my remarks on meaning of certain planks, even though I have put them all in brackets.

This one is only supposed to come in action at a later stage, and at this time is still in design phase. But, the preparations have begun recently by formation of green movement. This movement will demand this plank to be realized, however strange this may sound to you now. Watch it.



10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.[6]

You added this; [brainwashing] Why? I have no idea....
I believe everyone has an equal right to an education though!



Brainwashing? Because this is the goal of this plank.
You may think the goal is to give you an education, of course. But, to give you an education, there is no need for a centralized government-controlled, obligatory system.

But, whatever, my point was that you support this communist plank.



According to the Communist Manifesto, all these were prior conditions for a transition from capitalism to communism, but Marx and Engels later expressed a desire to modernize this passage.[7]


Where do you come up with this chit? Are you having comprehension problems or just that mad that I dished Ron Paul. (A Dr, by trade! Not an economist.)noway noway laugh laugh laugh




No comment.

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 02/21/09 07:15 PM
REMEMBER THE ...what was it again???? i forgot

nogames39's photo
Sat 02/21/09 07:18 PM

REMEMBER THE ...what was it again???? i forgot


What's the name of the medical condition that causes you to forget things... Some A-something decease...

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 02/21/09 07:22 PM


REMEMBER THE ...what was it again???? i forgot


What's the name of the medical condition that causes you to forget things... Some A-something decease...


almond???

THAT'S IT!!!! REMEMBER THE ALMOND

nogames39's photo
Sat 02/21/09 07:30 PM



REMEMBER THE ...what was it again???? i forgot


What's the name of the medical condition that causes you to forget things... Some A-something decease...


almond???

THAT'S IT!!!! REMEMBER THE ALMOND


Alzheimer's decease, you have me convinced now! bigsmile

pgh82nyc's photo
Sat 02/21/09 07:30 PM
I'm with Texas on this, The FG has overstepped its bounds long ago. This goes back to FDR, or you could even go as far back as the 16th Amendment (with the Federal income tax). Unfortunately what we are seeing from Obama is nothing new. I mean, we've been watching our liberties erode over the past 70 years.

My biggest gripe with Bush was that he laid the groundworks for this. Everything Obama is doing now (with the exception of a few pet projects) is exactly what Bush would have done before.

The power the government has now is scary, and the Dems will only expand on it. Not a good thought.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 02/21/09 07:34 PM
I see comprehension is not your strong suit nogames!!!noway noway

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 02/21/09 07:36 PM




REMEMBER THE ...what was it again???? i forgot


What's the name of the medical condition that causes you to forget things... Some A-something decease...


almond???

THAT'S IT!!!! REMEMBER THE ALMOND



Alzheimer's decease, you have me convinced now! bigsmile


rofl

psst...give fanta (my brother from another mother) some kool aid

nogames39's photo
Sat 02/21/09 07:48 PM

I'm with Texas on this, The FG has overstepped its bounds long ago. This goes back to FDR, or you could even go as far back as the 16th Amendment (with the Federal income tax). Unfortunately what we are seeing from Obama is nothing new. I mean, we've been watching our liberties erode over the past 70 years.

My biggest gripe with Bush was that he laid the groundworks for this. Everything Obama is doing now (with the exception of a few pet projects) is exactly what Bush would have done before.

The power the government has now is scary, and the Dems will only expand on it. Not a good thought.


Do you think we have crossed a "no return" line? Completely agree with your observation, and personally, think that we did cross it.

pgh82nyc's photo
Mon 02/23/09 12:08 PM


I'm with Texas on this, The FG has overstepped its bounds long ago. This goes back to FDR, or you could even go as far back as the 16th Amendment (with the Federal income tax). Unfortunately what we are seeing from Obama is nothing new. I mean, we've been watching our liberties erode over the past 70 years.

My biggest gripe with Bush was that he laid the groundworks for this. Everything Obama is doing now (with the exception of a few pet projects) is exactly what Bush would have done before.

The power the government has now is scary, and the Dems will only expand on it. Not a good thought.


Do you think we have crossed a "no return" line? Completely agree with your observation, and personally, think that we did cross it.

It's very likely, although stranger things have happened. I don't think we'll ever get much of them back, there's been no case where the Federal government has ever given the people more rights since the Bill of Rights..

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Mon 02/23/09 02:54 PM
((("Once again. Your words; [so-called central bank, FED in US), and [to issue legal tender].
The Federal Reserve is a quasi-public (government entity with private components) banking system. It is not the Centralized banking system used by the Communist govs. Although they may have copied parts of it, as have most govs around the globe. The reason for them copying it is because it is one of the soundest most successful systems in the world. I doubt you have any real understanding of its complexities.")))


WRONG!!!!!!! SINCE THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 1913 WHICH IS 96 YEARS, THE VALUE OF YOUR MONEY HAS DROPPED OVER 94%. THE FEDERAL RESERVE LOANS OUR GOVERNMENT THE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES IN EXCHANGE FOR IOU'S THAT THEY REFER TO AS US TREASURY BONDS. THEN THEY EXPECT US TO PAY THE INTEREST ON THESE LOANS THROUGH THE IRS. LOOK IT UP AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE IRS WAS DEVILOPED AT THE SAME TIME AS THE FED SO THAT WE COULD PAY THE INTEREST ON THESE LOANS DIRECTLY. YOU CAN LOOK IT UP IN THE FEDS OWN MANUAL CALLED THE 'MONEY MARKET MECHANICS'. IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE FEDERAL RESERVE, GOOGLE UP 'THE CREATURE FROM JEKYL ISLAND' YOU CAN LISTEN TO IT FOR FREE. YOU'LL ALSO FIND OUT THAT IF WE REPAYED THE FEDS WE WOULD STILL COME UP SHORT BECAUSE THEY NEVER PRINTED THE INTEREST!!!!

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