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Edited by
Atlantis75
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The Earth's orbit is a spiral, not an oval shape. Our Sun is spinning within the galaxy just like all the stars spin within the galaxy around the galactic core. The Sun is traveling through space with a crazy number (240km/s ~ 150miles/second) so does all the planets keeping up with it. Wouldn't that be a spiral shape across the universe, compared to an absolute still point outside the galaxy? Hmm? We never return to the same position the Earth has already been before, until we make a full circle galactic core and even then, it would be a very small percentage chance to ever be at the same orbital position then a galactic year ago (250million Earth-years). Why don't they teach this in school? |
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because only two people in the class would understand and only one of them would care
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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Mon 02/02/09 08:19 PM
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because only two people in the class would understand and only one of them would care I envy those who don't care. Why should we care about anything else but food and sex? What's the point anyway? All we need to know is to turn on the TV and read/write so we can send sms-es on the cellphone. |
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I really do wish I could answer that
but I could forget about everything but sex right now.. not all that hungry I'll worry about food tomorrow |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 02/02/09 08:59 PM
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The Galaxy spins and our solar system is not from this galaxy. It was captured from a collision with another galaxy ... long time ago. That is why our solar system spins at a different angle than the Milky way galaxy.
Not only that, we are moving at an angle towards the galactic equator where the Milky way galaxy spins and our sun will reach that equator on December 21, 2012 at 11:11 a.m. world time. It will then proceed to cross the equator and its journy will be through that equator until eventually it will be on the other side of the galaxy, which is a brighter side because there are more stars. They say that "time as we know it" will cease to exist... what ever that means. Perhaps our tracking of time will change because the stars will change or the solar system's movements themselves will change. Perhaps the angle of the solar system will tilt to match the angle of the galaxy. In any case you are right, we are always changing our position compared to the galaxy. Let's hope we don't run into some of that dark matter. The place we are headed is a place where no stars can be seen. They call it "the dark road." |
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something else thats odd they mayan calender ends in 2012
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The Earth's orbit is a spiral, not an oval shape. Our Sun is spinning within the galaxy just like all the stars spin within the galaxy around the galactic core. The Sun is traveling through space with a crazy number (240km/s ~ 150miles/second) so does all the planets keeping up with it. Wouldn't that be a spiral shape across the universe, compared to an absolute still point outside the galaxy? Hmm? We never return to the same position the Earth has already been before, until we make a full circle galactic core and even then, it would be a very small percentage chance to ever be at the same orbital position then a galactic year ago (250million Earth-years). Why don't they teach this in school? They do (not all schools). Actually, if observed from a point outside of our galaxy, it would be a double spiral ( because our galaxy has an orbit too). From a point within, - a spiral. I think that is what you meant. |
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something else thats odd they mayan calender ends in 2012 I think that is the main point. The crossing of galactic equator was "fudged" to confirm to 2012 date from Mayan calendar. |
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Edited by
DeKLiNe0fMaN
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Mon 02/02/09 11:56 PM
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The Earth's orbit is a spiral, not an oval shape. Our Sun is spinning within the galaxy just like all the stars spin within the galaxy around the galactic core. The Sun is traveling through space with a crazy number (240km/s ~ 150miles/second) so does all the planets keeping up with it. Wouldn't that be a spiral shape across the universe, compared to an absolute still point outside the galaxy? Hmm? We never return to the same position the Earth has already been before, until we make a full circle galactic core and even then, it would be a very small percentage chance to ever be at the same orbital position then a galactic year ago (250million Earth-years). Why don't they teach this in school? Hubble, who had been the first to establish that the universe included many other galaxies outside of our own, noticed something else: the galaxies were receding from us at a velocity proportional to their distance. The more distant the galaxy, the greater its redshift, and therefore the higher the velocity, a relation known as Hubble's Law. The velocity v could be determined by multiplying the distance R by H, the Hubble constant, given by the slope of the line in a graph, in units of kilometers per second per million light years. The Hubble constant describes the universe's rate of expansion. The apparent linearity of Hubble's Law implies that the universe is uniformly expanding. What does that actually mean? For one thing, it means that no matter which galaxy we happen to be in, virtually all of the other galaxies are moving away from us (the exceptions are at the local level: gravitational attraction pulls neighboring galaxies, such as Andromeda and the Milky Way, closer together). In other words, it's not as though we here on earth are at the center of the universe and everything else is receding from us. The universe has no "edge" as such. It also means that the galaxies are not moving away through space, they are moving away with space, as space itself expands. Think of a loaf of unbaked raisin bread you've set in a warm place to rise. The raisins are like galaxies or clusters of galaxies, and the dough, space. As the dough rises, the raisins move farther apart, but they've moved with the dough, not through the dough. http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/Cosmos/ExpandUni.html Perhaps our galaxy is close enough to another galaxy to act like a A double star which is two stars that appear close to one another in the sky. Some are true binaries (two stars that revolve around one another); others just appear together from the Earth because they are both in the same line-of-sight. So as we travel through the galaxy even after 1 galactic rotation we have wabbled just enough NOT to land the same plot as before  ? The reason they don't teach this in schools is because they have more pressing doctrines to push, such as accepting homosexuality and hating Jesus 
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something else thats odd they mayan calender ends in 2012 I think that is the main point. The crossing of galactic equator was "fudged" to confirm to 2012 date from Mayan calendar. The year 2012 is also relevant to the Chinese I-Ching. Two totally different cultures on opposite sides of the world, coming to the same conclusion. Coincidence? I think not. |
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The Earth's orbit is a spiral, not an oval shape. Our Sun is spinning within the galaxy just like all the stars spin within the galaxy around the galactic core. The Sun is traveling through space with a crazy number (240km/s ~ 150miles/second) so does all the planets keeping up with it. Wouldn't that be a spiral shape across the universe, compared to an absolute still point outside the galaxy? Hmm? We never return to the same position the Earth has already been before, until we make a full circle galactic core and even then, it would be a very small percentage chance to ever be at the same orbital position then a galactic year ago (250million Earth-years). Why don't they teach this in school? Hubble, who had been the first to establish that the universe included many other galaxies outside of our own, noticed something else: the galaxies were receding from us at a velocity proportional to their distance. The more distant the galaxy, the greater its redshift, and therefore the higher the velocity, a relation known as Hubble's Law. The velocity v could be determined by multiplying the distance R by H, the Hubble constant, given by the slope of the line in a graph, in units of kilometers per second per million light years. The Hubble constant describes the universe's rate of expansion. The apparent linearity of Hubble's Law implies that the universe is uniformly expanding. What does that actually mean? For one thing, it means that no matter which galaxy we happen to be in, virtually all of the other galaxies are moving away from us (the exceptions are at the local level: gravitational attraction pulls neighboring galaxies, such as Andromeda and the Milky Way, closer together). In other words, it's not as though we here on earth are at the center of the universe and everything else is receding from us. The universe has no "edge" as such. It also means that the galaxies are not moving away through space, they are moving away with space, as space itself expands. Think of a loaf of unbaked raisin bread you've set in a warm place to rise. The raisins are like galaxies or clusters of galaxies, and the dough, space. As the dough rises, the raisins move farther apart, but they've moved with the dough, not through the dough. http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/Cosmos/ExpandUni.html Perhaps our galaxy is close enough to another galaxy to act like a A double star which is two stars that appear close to one another in the sky. Some are true binaries (two stars that revolve around one another); others just appear together from the Earth because they are both in the same line-of-sight. So as we travel through the galaxy even after 1 galactic rotation we have wabbled just enough NOT to land the same plot as before ? The reason they don't teach this in schools is because they have more pressing doctrines to push, such as accepting homosexuality and hating Jesus i agree with your last statement,but as far as the red shift that is not correct.red shifts have been spotted in the same place with different red shift lines .why is this if they are close together? as far as calenders go,believe what you want but noone knows when it will all end |
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The reason they don't teach this in schools is because they have more pressing doctrines to push, such as accepting homosexuality and hating Jesus. DeKLiNe0fMaN: How about instead of claiming that they are pushing us to accept homosexuality, say that they are trying to get us to accept people for who they are without hate and prejudice. And instead of claiming that they are pushing us to "hate Jesus" (which they are not doing!) why don't you realize that they are attempting to keep this a free country where the government does not sponsor or push one specific religion down the throats of our children? Huh? 
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The reason they don't teach this in schools is because they have more pressing doctrines to push, such as accepting homosexuality and hating Jesus. DeKLiNe0fMaN: How about instead of claiming that they are pushing us to accept homosexuality, say that they are trying to get us to accept people for who they are without hate and prejudice. And instead of claiming that they are pushing us to "hate Jesus" (which they are not doing!) why don't you realize that they are attempting to keep this a free country where the government does not sponsor or push one specific religion down the throats of our children? Huh? if you don't except it then you are closed minded and a bigot? guess what, all the text books have went from BC TO BCE CHRIST IS GONE FROM THE SCHOOLS why don't christians get the same treatment as homo's and baby killers? because we have morals and standards |
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Edited by
DeKLiNe0fMaN
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Tue 02/03/09 08:15 AM
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The reason they don't teach this in schools is because they have more pressing doctrines to push, such as accepting homosexuality and hating Jesus. DeKLiNe0fMaN: How about instead of claiming that they are pushing us to accept homosexuality, say that they are trying to get us to accept people for who they are without hate and prejudice. And instead of claiming that they are pushing us to "hate Jesus" (which they are not doing!) why don't you realize that they are attempting to keep this a free country where the government does not sponsor or push one specific religion down the throats of our children? Huh? You're correct this is a free country to choose. That is unless of course you choose to acknowledge Jesus in school where you might get expelled. And as far as homosexuality.. thank you for proving my point. I don't hate anyone, but even from a scientific p.o.v homosexuality has no use for furthering the human race and while i have no evidence to prove it, i would safely guess that a high 90% of homosexuals were abused as children, or suffered some traumatic relationship crisis. Nobody is born gay. to assume that is to A. Call God a liar (which is easy for the non believer) or B. Claim evolution is flawed in humans. Just because i don't agree with homosexual BEHAVIOR, doesn't mean i'm hating or prejudiced. But if a way of existence/survival has absolutely no positive use in the human race other than not wanting to hurt someones feelings or call them on inappropriate behavior then rock on politically correctness. But this is a direct result of a fatherless generation. This country is lacking men and filling up with boys who are taught to blame everyone else for their actions. I lost track of what thread i was in and am  I apologize i just came out of a religion thread.
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That's what they are doing! if you don't except it then you are closed minded and a bigot? guess what, all the text books have went from BC TO BCE CHRIST IS GONE FROM THE SCHOOLS why don't christians get the same treatment as homo's and baby killers? because we have morals and standards "Christ" or Jesus does NOT belong in our schools. That is a religion. Religion belongs in Church, not our schools. Why? Because this country is not all Christian. There are many different faiths. Who do Christians think they are anyway? They are NOT the only people in the world. Also, Christians are NOT the only people who have Morals and standards. That is sooo arrogant of you to think that only Christians have morals and standards. Geeeeze, no wonder you don't get the respect you think you deserve. |
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Edited by
DeKLiNe0fMaN
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Tue 02/03/09 08:19 AM
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That's what they are doing! if you don't except it then you are closed minded and a bigot? guess what, all the text books have went from BC TO BCE CHRIST IS GONE FROM THE SCHOOLS why don't christians get the same treatment as homo's and baby killers? because we have morals and standards "Christ" or Jesus does NOT belong in our schools. That is a religion. Religion belongs in Church, not our schools. Why? Because this country is not all Christian. There are many different faiths. Who do Christians think they are anyway? They are NOT the only people in the world. Also, Christians are NOT the only people who have Morals and standards. That is sooo arrogant of you to think that only Christians have morals and standards. Geeeeze, no wonder you don't get the respect you think you deserve. |
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The reason they don't teach this in schools is because they have more pressing doctrines to push, such as accepting homosexuality and hating Jesus. DeKLiNe0fMaN: How about instead of claiming that they are pushing us to accept homosexuality, say that they are trying to get us to accept people for who they are without hate and prejudice. And instead of claiming that they are pushing us to "hate Jesus" (which they are not doing!) why don't you realize that they are attempting to keep this a free country where the government does not sponsor or push one specific religion down the throats of our children? Huh? You're correct this is a free country to choose. That is unless of course you choose to acknowledge Jesus in school where you might get expelled. And as far as homosexuality.. thank you for proving my point. I don't hate anyone, but even from a scientific p.o.v homosexuality has no use for furthering the human race and while i have no evidence to prove it, i would safely guess that a high 90% of homosexuals were abused as children, or suffered some traumatic relationship crisis. Nobody is born gay. to assume that is to A. Call God a liar (which is easy for the non believer) or B. Claim evolution is flawed in humans. Just because i don't agree with homosexual BEHAVIOR, doesn't mean i'm hating or prejudiced. But if a way of existence/survival has absolutely no positive use in the human race other than not wanting to hurt someones feelings or call them on inappropriate behavior then rock on politically correctness. But this is a direct result of a fatherless generation. This country is lacking men and filling up with boys who are taught to blame everyone else for their actions. To make the unscientific ascertain that homosexuals are not born gay is ridiculous and irresponsible. If you did a study, I think you would find that all homosexuals were NOT ABUSED AS CHILDREN. Serial stone cold killers, might be found to have been abused or neglected more than gays. Also, there are many children being born that are physically both male and female. You can't deny that does not happen because it is a FACT. Many of these children are physically altered AT BIRTH. Therefore the doctor or parents are making the choice at to whether that child will be male or female. WHAT IF THEY ARE WRONG? What if they make a child female that turns out to be more male? I think you are hobbled by your religious upbringing and you are not using your logic and you are not being fair or understanding. |
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That's what they are doing! if you don't except it then you are closed minded and a bigot? guess what, all the text books have went from BC TO BCE CHRIST IS GONE FROM THE SCHOOLS why don't christians get the same treatment as homo's and baby killers? because we have morals and standards "Christ" or Jesus does NOT belong in our schools. That is a religion. Religion belongs in Church, not our schools. Why? Because this country is not all Christian. There are many different faiths. Who do Christians think they are anyway? They are NOT the only people in the world. Also, Christians are NOT the only people who have Morals and standards. That is sooo arrogant of you to think that only Christians have morals and standards. Geeeeze, no wonder you don't get the respect you think you deserve. it's only from ignorant people that believe in if it feels good do it belief that argue with me. btw:if you believe in killing babies and homosexuality you don't have any morals |
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That's what they are doing! if you don't except it then you are closed minded and a bigot? guess what, all the text books have went from BC TO BCE CHRIST IS GONE FROM THE SCHOOLS why don't christians get the same treatment as homo's and baby killers? because we have morals and standards "Christ" or Jesus does NOT belong in our schools. That is a religion. Religion belongs in Church, not our schools. Why? Because this country is not all Christian. There are many different faiths. Who do Christians think they are anyway? They are NOT the only people in the world. Also, Christians are NOT the only people who have Morals and standards. That is sooo arrogant of you to think that only Christians have morals and standards. Geeeeze, no wonder you don't get the respect you think you deserve. DUH!!! Well it is supposed to be a free country. But if you start teaching religion in school then it is not. Then it becomes state sponsored religion taught in schools. That means if our leadership decides to change its religion, then your children will be taught something else and might be force to worship Allah. Wake up! |
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The reason they don't teach this in schools is because they have more pressing doctrines to push, such as accepting homosexuality and hating Jesus. DeKLiNe0fMaN: How about instead of claiming that they are pushing us to accept homosexuality, say that they are trying to get us to accept people for who they are without hate and prejudice. And instead of claiming that they are pushing us to "hate Jesus" (which they are not doing!) why don't you realize that they are attempting to keep this a free country where the government does not sponsor or push one specific religion down the throats of our children? Huh? I'm a Christian and I agree with Jeanniebean. More children then Christian children go to school. They all need to be treated equally. |
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