Topic: do you believe you love Jesus or think you do
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Thu 01/22/09 08:13 AM
BTW do we ever really know the people we fall in love with? I fall in love with what we believe or want to believe the other is or is not.

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Thu 01/22/09 08:19 AM
everyone is in love with the idea of love, TBRich. Don't you think?


TBRich's photo
Thu 01/22/09 08:23 AM
In love with the idea of being in love, yeah I will agree with that, but then reality hits you in the face pretty hard sometimes. This is also true with some people I know who lost their faith by following con artists or crazies, that they thought were good people teaching about the love of g-d.

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Thu 01/22/09 08:27 AM
A big thing, back when you are young and idealistic is to say, "I have no expectations about you." But can this really be true? I think we do have an idea or an expectation that we either go against or with, its very hard to rid the mind and the heart of what it does almost naturally and this is to want something, to want something very badly, to long for it, so I think you do expect to find it or to get it...do you think you should expect it?


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Thu 01/22/09 08:35 AM
I think we are geared to believe what we want to believe. You can see that on the religious posts, such as, some people only accepting data that proves their point and refuse to see what is wrong with the data. How many times have your friends warned you about someone and you fell in love anyway? But if we approach things too scientifically where is the mystery or magic or romance in life. Life so they say is but a dream and then it slips away....

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Thu 01/22/09 08:37 AM
I wonder why so much effort to try and destroy someone else's beliefs?

get thee behind me Satan

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Thu 01/22/09 08:42 AM
That is a line I usually don't cross, if you ever read about Mother Theresa losing her faith it is heart wrenching. But open discussion and debate with people who want to is fine. I don't try to shove my beliefs on anyone, just a little Socratic method aimed at "Know Thyself"

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Thu 01/22/09 08:59 AM



Look at the crash on the Hudson and DENY GOD doesn't exist, pilot skills played a part but God saved them all


"Kojak" ..you keep saying things but never explain how you reach those conclusions..let me guess you have faith and don't need to explain it rationally

so what about the airplanes that crash and everyone dies...does that also prove God's existence? ...or does your faith requires you to blame that on Satan or Man


I do have faith. If I need to explain it then you have lost out on so many things in life.

Have you ever heard the saying " The last one to notice the water are the fish" well sir if you don t believe that the glorious things you see everyday are the creation of a Supreme being that I call God then....


"Kojak" ..just as I propheized that you would claimed faith ...so maybe now I'm Funches the Prophet or maybe I knew you would claim faith because I had a vision you would or my prophecy was inspired by God ..

see how the fantasy of faith works..it aids you from having to give a rational answer to anything or just admitting that you can't answer the question posed to you rationally

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Thu 01/22/09 09:03 AM

I'd just like to clarify what I know from my own experiences is that it is not a delusion to believe in Jesus Christ, but it IS a delusion to think that you are Jesus Christ.


"WallaceStevens" ..that would mean that anyone that believe they were reincarnated or had past lives is delusional

kojack's photo
Thu 01/22/09 09:04 AM
You are far from a prophet, you ASSUMED and were partially correct.


I also said you were blind but you chose to ignore that.


TBRich's photo
Thu 01/22/09 09:08 AM
Ha! the bald leading the blind?

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Thu 01/22/09 09:10 AM

BTW do we ever really know the people we fall in love with? I fall in love with what we believe or want to believe the other is or is not.


love is the degree of stupidity one is willing to endure for a person place or thing ...funches 3:16

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Thu 01/22/09 09:12 AM

I wonder why so much effort to try and destroy someone else's beliefs?

get thee behind me Satan


how rude....

"Quiet"...please don't take my glory and give it to Satan

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Thu 01/22/09 09:22 AM

You are far from a prophet, you ASSUMED and were partially correct.


I also said you were blind but you chose to ignore that.


"Kojak" ..funny you called me blind when faith requires that you be blind

but anyway...it seems you only quote from the bible and have no real thoughts of your own which explains why you never explain anything which is why I will quote from The Third Testament ..

you can teach a parrot to squawk but you can't teach a parrot to explain or comprehend what it squawked ....funches 3:16

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Thu 01/22/09 09:27 AM
agreed faith is blind, but my point is if you don't notice the beauty around you that God created then....

As for the snake the bible doesn t mention a snake by that name but rather refers to satan as the snake.

Also God said don't eat from the tree of knowledge, as children we are taught its and apple.

The sin wasn't the eating of the apple but rather being naked thus why they covered themselves with a fig leaf.

Cain was the son of satan, not Adam. the only son of Adam is Able

TBRich's photo
Thu 01/22/09 09:29 AM

agreed faith is blind, but my point is if you don't notice the beauty around you that God created then....

As for the snake the bible doesn t mention a snake by that name but rather refers to satan as the snake.

Also God said don't eat from the tree of knowledge, as children we are taught its and apple.

The sin wasn't the eating of the apple but rather being thus why they covered themselves with a fig leaf.

Cain was the son of satan, not Adam. the only son of Adam is Able


The sin was being ? I thought it was disobience? does g-d say "Who told you you were ?" I thought Adam had another son named Seth, is your bible different than mine?

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Thu 01/22/09 09:33 AM
Adam had many sons and daughters, back then it was ok to date your brother and sister only because the earth was not as populated.

Only later did he say it was repulsive.

Yes seth was also Adams son, But Cain was not.

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Thu 01/22/09 09:49 AM

agreed faith is blind, but my point is if you don't notice the beauty around you that God created then....

As for the snake the bible doesn t mention a snake by that name but rather refers to satan as the snake.

Also God said don't eat from the tree of knowledge, as children we are taught its and apple.

The sin wasn't the eating of the apple but rather being naked thus why they covered themselves with a fig leaf.

Cain was the son of satan, not Adam. the only son of Adam is Able


"kojak" if being naked was the sin then wouldn't this mean that God create Adam and Eve into sin since he created them naked and therefore is responsible for all sin

also if God made man in his own image and made man naked then wouldn't this mean that God is naked and therefore is Sin


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Thu 01/22/09 10:32 AM


BTW do we ever really know the people we fall in love with? I fall in love with what we believe or want to believe the other is or is not.


love is the degree of stupidity one is willing to endure for a person place or thing ...funches 3:16



Love is the greatest good. Tell that to someone who just lost their child. I hope your joking.

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Thu 01/22/09 10:36 AM
I always wanted to know what 3:16 means funches?

Is this March 16th?

Is this your personal scripture number and you have created a whole bunch of them to write the next great book?

Curiousity is a ***** for me sometimeslaugh