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Topic: Would another 911 be better than what Bush has done
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Sat 01/10/09 06:59 PM
I was thinking about the mess we are in all accross our once great nation and remembering how it all got started. 911 was the moment. So here we are bankrupt and failing with millions out of work and many many more thousands dead. Would it have been better to have experienced another 911 type event than what we have endured. Keep in mind half our bill of rights are in shreds and Bin laden still runs amok.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 01/10/09 07:01 PM

I was thinking about the mess we are in all accross our once great nation and remembering how it all got started. 911 was the moment. So here we are bankrupt and failing with millions out of work and many many more thousands dead. Would it have been better to have experienced another 911 type event than what we have endured. Keep in mind half our bill of rights are in shreds and Bin laden still runs amok.
smokin could beglasses

madisonman's photo
Sat 01/10/09 07:07 PM


I was thinking about the mess we are in all accross our once great nation and remembering how it all got started. 911 was the moment. So here we are bankrupt and failing with millions out of work and many many more thousands dead. Would it have been better to have experienced another 911 type event than what we have endured. Keep in mind half our bill of rights are in shreds and Bin laden still runs amok.
smokin could beglasses
I honestly think as a nation we would be much better off today had we done nothing.

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Sat 01/10/09 07:13 PM
honestly did you be think before you said what you just said!!! our country is in the gutter at the moment but we can fix that...i mean as a nation we can work to get our country to it's glorious state again but how the hell would we get all those people back? we couldn't!!! a lot of innocent people died that day and i think it's ****ed up that you would mention another 9-11 over some economical chrisis and what not...

i'm not trying to bash you or anything, don't take offense from my anger because it's clearly just my opinion

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Sat 01/10/09 07:20 PM
Edited by madisonman on Sat 01/10/09 07:23 PM

honestly did you be think before you said what you just said!!! our country is in the gutter at the moment but we can fix that...i mean as a nation we can work to get our country to it's glorious state again but how the hell would we get all those people back? we couldn't!!! a lot of innocent people died that day and i think it's ****ed up that you would mention another 9-11 over some economical chrisis and what not...

i'm not trying to bash you or anything, don't take offense from my anger because it's clearly just my opinion
Everyone has a right to an opinion hysterical or not. I am wondering if I didnt explain myself clearly as your comment doesnt realy fit my quistion. The economic crisis is causing far more human suffering than 911 did and it has effected millions of families, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of innocents who have died in our bankrupting wars of retaliation. If you do the math I think the obviouse conclusion would be that we should as a nation done nothing but raise our guard up.

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Sat 01/10/09 07:22 PM


honestly did you be think before you said what you just said!!! our country is in the gutter at the moment but we can fix that...i mean as a nation we can work to get our country to it's glorious state again but how the hell would we get all those people back? we couldn't!!! a lot of innocent people died that day and i think it's ****ed up that you would mention another 9-11 over some economical chrisis and what not...

i'm not trying to bash you or anything, don't take offense from my anger because it's clearly just my opinion
Everyone has a right to an opinion hysterical or not. I am wondering if I didnt explain myself clearly as your comment doesnt realy fit my quistion. The economic crisis is causing far more human suffering than 911 did and it has effected millions of families, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of innocents who have died in our bankrupting wars of retaliation. If you do the math I think the obviouse conclusion would be that we should as a nation dont nothing but to raise our guard up.



well then that makes a lot more sense, and i agree with you in certain aspects, but i like G.W.B. so i kinda stand by him in everything he does. Not everything he says because sometimes i wonder if he learned his english from a crackhead lol

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Sat 01/10/09 07:25 PM



honestly did you be think before you said what you just said!!! our country is in the gutter at the moment but we can fix that...i mean as a nation we can work to get our country to it's glorious state again but how the hell would we get all those people back? we couldn't!!! a lot of innocent people died that day and i think it's ****ed up that you would mention another 9-11 over some economical chrisis and what not...

i'm not trying to bash you or anything, don't take offense from my anger because it's clearly just my opinion
Everyone has a right to an opinion hysterical or not. I am wondering if I didnt explain myself clearly as your comment doesnt realy fit my quistion. The economic crisis is causing far more human suffering than 911 did and it has effected millions of families, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of innocents who have died in our bankrupting wars of retaliation. If you do the math I think the obviouse conclusion would be that we should as a nation dont nothing but to raise our guard up.



well then that makes a lot more sense, and i agree with you in certain aspects, but i like G.W.B. so i kinda stand by him in everything he does. Not everything he says because sometimes i wonder if he learned his english from a crackhead lol
I have a hard time likeing a man who nearly single handidly destroyed our country and made such bad decisions our entire 'american" way of life is in jepordy

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/10/09 07:27 PM
Bush should be tried for violations to the constitution!

He should have been impeached for many things including not doing his job and allowing 9/11 to happen in the first place.
Of course you were only 11 or 12 when it happened and have probably fallen for all the propaganda fed to this nation during the last 8 years!

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Sat 01/10/09 07:32 PM

Bush should be tried for violations to the constitution!

He should have been impeached for many things including not doing his job and allowing 9/11 to happen in the first place.
Of course you were only 11 or 12 when it happened and have probably fallen for all the propaganda fed to this nation during the last 8 years!
The Bush legacy is one of total failure and his biggest failure is the war on terror.

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Sat 01/10/09 07:35 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 01/10/09 07:36 PM
He has created more terrorists with his policies than ever existed with his illegal war in Iraq.
And killed more US sodiers than Osama bin Laden killed civilians on 9/11.

He's a coward. Him and Cheney!

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Sat 01/10/09 07:35 PM




honestly did you be think before you said what you just said!!! our country is in the gutter at the moment but we can fix that...i mean as a nation we can work to get our country to it's glorious state again but how the hell would we get all those people back? we couldn't!!! a lot of innocent people died that day and i think it's ****ed up that you would mention another 9-11 over some economical chrisis and what not...

i'm not trying to bash you or anything, don't take offense from my anger because it's clearly just my opinion
Everyone has a right to an opinion hysterical or not. I am wondering if I didnt explain myself clearly as your comment doesnt realy fit my quistion. The economic crisis is causing far more human suffering than 911 did and it has effected millions of families, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of innocents who have died in our bankrupting wars of retaliation. If you do the math I think the obviouse conclusion would be that we should as a nation dont nothing but to raise our guard up.



well then that makes a lot more sense, and i agree with you in certain aspects, but i like G.W.B. so i kinda stand by him in everything he does. Not everything he says because sometimes i wonder if he learned his english from a crackhead lol
I have a hard time likeing a man who nearly single handidly destroyed our country and made such bad decisions our entire 'american" way of life is in jepordy



I just think that because we can't do anything about him anymore we shouldn't waste our breaths complaining about him...besides he's a lame duck now...it's like 10 more days til obama becomes prez...we should just suck it up!

and either way our country chose him as prez. we should always stand by our leader regardless of his decisions.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/10/09 07:37 PM
WE can!
We can try him!

madisonman's photo
Sat 01/10/09 08:14 PM

WE can!
We can try him!
and throw shoes at him!

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/10/09 08:15 PM


WE can!
We can try him!
and throw shoes at him!


laugh laugh laugh

madisonman's photo
Sat 01/10/09 08:17 PM
It was a mad rush to war for sure as if it was a predetermined course of action. They took advantage of the hysterics of 911 and added fuel to the fire with talk of mushroom clouds and anthrax. fanta is correct war crimes and crimes against peace are the charges.

AndrewAV's photo
Sun 01/11/09 06:50 PM

He should have been impeached for many things including not doing his job and allowing 9/11 to happen in the first place.


Are you serious? the man had 8 months. I'm not particularly fond of the man but the plan started years before. Therefore, by your logic, Clinton should be tried. Maybe we should try him for the whole North Korea nuclear mess we're dealing with too. Hell, let's go back and try every living ex-president for the failings of their administration. We can start a list for Obama too because I'm sure he'll have a few like everyone else.

9/11 was one of the worst American tragedies in modern history. Not taking action was not an option. By laying down, we essentially admit defeat. The fact we stood up again is what has kept us safe - not the DHS and airport security. The fact we didn't stay down and went into Afghanistan showed we weren't going to take it without a fight.

Also, please stop showing your ignorance of your own country's inner workings by blaming bush for everything - it's tiring. He's not a dictator and Congressional approval is required for the most part to act. The democratic congress is the one that approved the surge. They're the one that perpetuated the war the last two years (though they declared they would not). Everyone is to blame for our current situation so unless you have something well though out and useful to say about the topic, please, get off it.

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Sun 01/11/09 06:55 PM

Bush should be tried for violations to the constitution!

He should have been impeached for many things including not doing his job and allowing 9/11 to happen in the first place.
Of course you were only 11 or 12 when it happened and have probably fallen for all the propaganda fed to this nation during the last 8 years!


9/11 happened too soon after he was in office to blame him for it all.

On the other hand, I agree, he had caused a lot of things that go against the fundamental values this country was based on. Reinstating some of the very things we fought a revolutionary war against. He has done more to damage the American way than the fear of communism ever did. I agree that he should have been impeached.

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Mon 01/12/09 12:34 AM
Bush has done a excellent job in the past 8 years.I am very glad we had Bush instead of some push over like Al gore or John kerry.Bush has done many great things.He fought not one but two wars at once and dealt a crushing blow to terrorism.He not only protected us from another terrorist attack but because of his superior intelligence task force they prevent many other planned terrorist attacks both here and overseas.The economy grew very well in the last 8 years.We saw many many times records in the stock market and job growth.

The real problems with the Bush administration started 2 years ago when Nancy pelosi and her Liberal friends stopped working with Bush.She simply refused to cooperate with him and spent a great deal of time wasting time and money on bills they already knew would fail.Many good positive Bush progams ended up on Pelosi's desk gathering dust.In short Pelosi did nothing but throw a wrech in the fine working machinery.To this date I can not think of a single positive thing Pelosi has done.I can't think of a single bill she ever passed to help America.I can think of numerous things she did do by hurting the economy.One of the biggest things she did wrong was refusing the oil companies to drill in Alaska while we saw record oil prices.She said that 1,000,000 barrels of oil wouldn't make a difference yet she begged and pleaded with Saudi Arabia to pump more oil into the system.Do the history.2 years ago when the Democrats took over is when the country took a nose dive.

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Mon 01/12/09 12:53 AM
I wish I had more time to give Mr thomas a better responce. The point being rather than wage two bankrupting wars would we have been better off haveing a couple more planes hijacked? What have these wars gained us? Peace? Bin Laden still runs free and millions of families are without jobs and health insurance. We would have been far better off had Bush stayed on vacation and done nothing..

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Mon 01/12/09 01:25 AM

I wish I had more time to give Mr thomas a better responce. The point being rather than wage two bankrupting wars would we have been better off haveing a couple more planes hijacked? What have these wars gained us? Peace? Bin Laden still runs free and millions of families are without jobs and health insurance. We would have been far better off had Bush stayed on vacation and done nothing..



Madison man you may blow a big horn but nobody is listening.If you could back up some of your rhetoric with facts maybe someone other then the people with Schizophrenia in here would agree with you.The fact is Bin laden,the Taliban,and Al qaeda are finshed.It is not unusual now to go a whole month with out even hearing about the the Taliban or Al qaeda.Even if Bin laden is alive who gives a crap?The man is nothing now,in control of nothing.Iraq and Afghanistan is thriving.Iraq alone has over 70 billion in surplus.I also have to look at 8 years of war and not even 5,000 casulties.That is extraordinary.In world war two we were losing that much in a single day.I'm sure if you added up the terrorist body count it would be 10 times that.

You may think it was all for nothing but I know this was a important step in world peace.People that were once in bondage and slavery are free.Women in Iraq that could only hold the job of a teacher when Sadaam was in power can now hold government jobs.The world is a much more stable and better place because of the billions we spent.How much would you give me if I told you we could free women from slavery,break the back of terrorist,remove unstable and dangerous dictators,stop terrorist from attacking Americans and elsewhere,and free countries in bondage so the world will be a better place?

Since I was in the military when Clinton was in office I know he should burden alot of blame for 9/11.Many people have forgotten that the world trade center was bombed before 9/11 and Clinton shrugged it off.The Cole and one of our embassies was also bombed.Clinton knew about these terrorist as he fired 8 cruise missiles to blow up terrorist training camps in Afganistan.Clinton could have and should have done much more.

As far as your rant and raving about your delusional theory that everyone should have jobs and health insurance.The world owes you NOTHING!The United states owes you NOTHING!There is nothing written in the constitution where the United states says it has to give you a job and health insurance.You want free health insurance move to Canada!

One more thing.I was reading in another posts how another member said if you were paying your taxes you supported the Wars that the United states start and continue.He is absolutely right!I hear all the time these tree hugging liberals who want to end Bush and his oil companies while they drive their SUVS around town.If you really don't want to support Bush or his programs,leave the country.I also have to wonder if you are registered to vote at all.Some of the most liberal people I have met don't even vote.


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