Has anyone heard of EFT and tapping?
I was just reading up on it and it seems that by tapping the meridians you can get rid of negative emotions/feelings. It is very cool!

Sounds like homeopathy. Do you have any links? Or any additional information?

EFT?

tapping?

meridians?


it would help if you included a little bit of definition of terms

The following is an abstract, the actual article follows the abstract, if anyone is interested in some of the studies and findings.

However, keep in mind that 'tapping' is not an 'accepted' procedure as much as it is perceived to hold possible value as a refined treatment in specific cases.


http://www.innersource.net/energy_psych/epi_research.htm


CITATION: Feinstein, D. (2008). Energy Psychology: A Review of the Preliminary Evidence.
Psychotherapy: Theory, Research, Practice, Training. 45(2), 199-213.
www.EnergyPsychologyResearch.com
ENERGY PSYCHOLOGY: A REVIEW OF THE PRELIMINARY EVIDENCE
David Feinstein, Ph.D.
Ashland, OR
Abstract
Energy psychology utilizes imaginal and narrative-generated exposure, paired with interventions
that reduce hyperarousal through acupressure and related techniques. According to practitioners,
this leads to treatment outcomes that are more rapid, powerful, and precise than the strategies
used in other exposure-based treatments such as relaxation or diaphragmatic breathing. The
method has been exceedingly controversial. It relies on unfamiliar procedures adapted from non-
Western cultures, posits unverified mechanisms of action, and early claims of unusual speed and
therapeutic power ran far ahead of initial empirical support. This paper reviews a hierarchy of
evidence regarding the efficacy of energy psychology, from anecdotal reports to randomized
clinical trials. Although the evidence is still preliminary, energy psychology has reached the
minimum threshold for being designated as an evidence-based treatment, with one form having
met the APA Division 12 criteria as a “probably efficacious treatment” for specific phobias;
another for maintaining weight loss. The limited scientific evidence, combined with extensive
clinical reports, suggests that energy psychology holds promise as a rapid and potent treatment
for a range of psychological conditions.

Comments on earlier drafts of this paper by Fred P. Gallo, Ph.D., Douglas J. Moore,
Ph.D., Ronald A. Ruden, M.D., and Robert Scaer, M.D., are gratefully acknowledged.
Copyright 2008, American Psychological Association. http://www.apa.org/journals

This article may not exactly replicate the final version published in the APA journal. It is
not the “copy of record.”

"Energy psychology utilizes imaginal and narrative-generated exposure, paired with interventions
that reduce hyperarousal through acupressure and related techniques." says it all.

As long as the practitioner was a beautiful woman I can see where I would get much arousal!

I've been doing EFT for about 8 years now. It "is" cool.

For doing it on self, for the most part, I'd say it was fairly easy. But there are some areas in life where its much better if you have a partner for it.

The best place to learn about tapping is
www.tapping.com. Magnus has 13 videos you can watch and learn from. And of course if someone wants to do extensive reading they can always go to emofree.com and download an 80 page manual for free. There's also www.123eft.com.

One can also join a Yahoo Group after they've looked at the above called EmotionalFreedomTechniqueDiscussion where they discuss how to use it and whatever questions that pop up.

Its one of the easiest things to do, but it does take a bit of training or reading about it so one can be effective with it.

Its great to do on self, but also on friends and relatives too. I cured my daughter's really bad cat allergy with it. Took me about 6 different times and at about 30 minutes a piece, but it finally worked :). I also cured her migraine headaches with it. Again, it took me several different times, but it finally worked too :). My other daughter, I've helped her through some emotionally bad times, like with guys and stuff.

I've also helped other people over the phone and I've even got my first "client" from it too!! I actually got paid - lol!!

The other thing about EFT is that it can be used with other methods too. Its very versatile.

Enuf said :)

Kozee

Honestly this really just semantics. EFT is no different from reiki, Qi quong, Tai chi, or what we Taoist call Chi Kung, or any of the energy work and medicine whose roots lie in eastern shamanism and vedic practices. Western culture and medicine is still catching up to this and struggling to attach scientific terminology and names to ancient methods and practices of healing that work through what can best be discribed as Internal Alchemy.

It is one of those things that is not approved, some psych in new Mexico actually went to jail for Medicare fraud for billing for it. No scientific evidence, but if it works, for someone try it. You can get an e-mail newsletter from the guy.

Each and everyone has different aspects to it, but as far as basic concepts, you are correct. Each one addresses "energy" in and around the body.

I am no expert in any of the above. I can only assume that some are quicker than others in attaining a clearer head and body and achieving a much purer aura and better intention with the chi.

EFT does work with the energy, but at the same time addresses situations by directly looking at them. I would imagine that "energy" methods you mentioned could do the same thing, but might take a bit longer, depending on how good one has become at them.

EFT has done the "east" meets "west". One releases pressures in areas of the body and at the same time can apply what is known as "energy psychology".

All I can say is that you can try it on something surface at first - like perhaps if someone has cut you off in traffic or someone has annoyed you. I've mentioned where you can find how to do it and a bit about it in the other post. Its free, so what the heck :).

Kozee

Yea, one has to be careful how one portrays themself when doing this sort of thing. While its marketed to therapists, psychologists, doctors, psychiatrists and others, by the "founder" Gary Craig, that does not mean its totally legal to use the same vernacular or terms that "licensed" people use. For example - Its not wise to tell someone they can "cure" them of some illness, etc. The word "cure" can set one up for a lawsuit. However, one can simply say that an illness can be addressed and the emotions from it can be "run".

I'd have to do some research as to whether it can be billed here in the U.S. yet through insurance companies at least. I think there are a "few" companies that will allow for some insurance claims for EFT.

EFT has become a most popular method since the late 90's. In the beginning there was only about 2 or 3 websites - now, there seem to be pages of websites.

Kozee

Thats funny this sounds just like my favorite remedy for 90% of what ails you.

Its called GetOffYourAssAndExcerciseAndDoSomeThingFun.

Long name, but it really gets the juices flowing.

My problem with any of this stuff is that is claims to effect energy, which has been tested in clinical and scientific settings and no evidence what so ever has been found to support such claims.

That is not to say that these techniques have no value, but to be intellectually honest is to admit either you don't know why it works, or to do like Di and cite a proper study that explains it honestly.

Thats funny this sounds just like my favorite remedy for 90% of what ails you.

Its called GetOffYourAssAndExcerciseAndDoSomeThingFun.

Long name, but it really gets the juices flowing.

My problem with any of this stuff is that is claims to effect energy, which has been tested in clinical and scientific settings and no evidence what so ever has been found to support such claims.

That is not to say that these techniques have no value, but to be intellectually honest is to admit either you don't know why it works, or to do like Di and cite a proper study that explains it honestly.


Okay - so it claims to effect energy - so does exercise and stuff like that. So, does thinking for too long :).

For the last few years or so, I've been doing this "weird" little experiment. Whenever someone tells me a particular type of emotion/thought, you know something that upsets them or annoys or whatever, I ask them to "point" to it. Strange, huh? But you know - 98% of the people I ask to do that - can do that. Maybe just 2% have no idea what the heck I'm talking about.

Not all of those people pointed to their "head" where you'd think everything would be stored. Some pointed to their heart or chest area, some to their shoulders, some to their back and some pointed "outward" from themself by a foot or so (give or take). Some said it was all over the body (whatever the emotion was) and etc.

So, with that, I figured if the memory isn't just "in the head", then wherever the person is pointing to is where at least most of the memory is being "stored". That means its being stored most likely along some nerve system. If its being stored along some nerve system then there is energy there as the body's energy is created by the neurons creating electrical current (at least I think so, if my poor science still serves me).

When tapping or touching particular nerve channels or meridians what happens is that the person becomes more aware of those energies or memories that have been stored. They seem to become more pronounced as more attention is given them. More information comes up and then the person starts to look at whatever it is they are addressing on a more focused level. However, sometimes, when tapping in these areas, the release is so fast and so thorough that the person doesn't even get to see why it was there to begin with. These people sometimes look at me and just get kinda puzzled with some blank stares. When I ask them how is it now, they say - I don't know. They don't know because its not there anymore and they can't understand where it went and the idea that it went so fast. And don't ask me why it sometimes works that way, because that part I haven't figured out yet. And also, no, it doesn't work that way on everything because there are some things that people try to hang on to.

This method is sort of a "psychology" for dummies. Its so simple that just about anyone can do it. Not to say that there aren't more expert people at it who get better results than others do. In my mind, its an A to B route towards releasing some stuff without having to beat your brains in all the time.

You can try it for free, or you can just speculate about it and think on it and run around the block a few times or get several pro and con articles or totally just think its like everything else in the world that has anything to do with Chinese or look up what Obama's been up to and wonder if he ever has any troubles or if you should walk the dog.

So much for seeking and reaching.

Oi vey,
Kozee

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html


Watch this, the brain is a powerful tool to explore our reality.

When you have a hemispherectomy (damage to one side of the brain where one half of the brain is removed) or a stroke as the lady in this video does, then you can loose the brain function of this 3d extension. You become lost in a viod, or feel as if you are spread out, sometimes people explain it as the out of body experience sensation or the near death experience due obviously to the fact that such trauma to the brain would likely follow death and if you survived such as this woman to describe it would remember the same or similar sensations.

The brain allows the concept of 3d extension of the body. The brain is the seat of emotion. We see every reason to believe that the brain projects emotions and feelings to all parts of your body and even out past your body to objects that you identify with, such as your car. Ever wonder how you get the wonderful sense of where your front bumper is without seeing it? Your brain takes imagery and sensations that we experience day in and day out and places them into a self awareness map. This mapping places sensation and feeling at places near and on you via visual audible and tactile stimuli. If you have ever been in a fender bender you probably remember FEELING a sensation of fear right before impact, sometimes even the sensation of impact before the impact, the brain does this for us so we learn to avoid running into things, this gets extended to a vehicle when we learn to drive. We have done tests where with the use of cameras we are able to trick the body into sensing when a person touches a dummy, as in that a camera is rigged to allow the person to see as if they are the dummy, and they feel when the dummy is touched.

See this video for a similar effect being used, except this is about expectations, and tactile sensation from something as slight as tiny movements of air current, however expectation made it seem much amplified: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyt9EWzxT_g

Energy fields do not have to enter the equation to explain any of this. In fact there are ways to test for fields of awareness, and fields of emotional perception. I am not mentioning any of this except to say that perception is a very complex thing, it is very possible that to perceive something and have it make an effect does not require any kind of energy field, or physiological effect to take place, like someone touching you, or not touching you, or any kind of emotional technique used to alter perception it literally can all be in your mind.

Many times established science has searched for such things to come up short, this does not mean it does not exist, just that many things have been tested, I urge you to check out this site, and if you think you can positively heal disease with touch then I suggest you register for the million dollar prize. If you think its completely psychological and not physiological then I understand and appreciate what you are doing as long as you are clear about that, otherwise you could win big money. Even if money is not important think about what donating that to charity would do. To heal with touch physiologically would quality trust me.

http://www.randi.org/site/

I "watched" the video about a month ago or so as someone on a list I'm on put it up on the list. I thought it was an absolutely fascinating video. I loved it.

To address the "energy field" thing, I agree with you that you do not have to "use" an energy field to perceive or be aware. This is two separate things to me. However, I'm talking about what is already "stashed" in and on and around the body and the ability to perceive them. These are two different activities (as I said).

I don't know where I said anything about healing someone's "owies" with EFT. As a matter of fact I said that I never use the word "cure". I also don't ever guarantee that I can heal someone's illness or injuries with EFT. Others might, but I don't. I do say that I can help with the emotional aspects of it, to either lessen the emotional areas or perhaps even eliminate some of the extra drama.

I "have" studied other types of healing techniques of which "some" have actually helped to quicken up the healing of someone quite quickly. I took a class and healed this guy's walking pneumonia, where he only had a slight residual after another 2 days. And this kinda blew me away - I didn't expect it. And I've had other similar things happen while taking different classes - but I don't really specialize in healing bodies, per se. I've met a few people who are really good at it, but its just not quite my thing. There are lots of Reiki people around for that :).

I've seen some pretty hefty miracles from people being able to "heal" and I admire their abilities for this. The heat some of these people put out is intense. I had one guy standing next to me one day while I was looking at books at the Bodhi Tree Book Store. He was standing 2 feet or so away and my "hip" started to have this "burning" feeling. I kinda scratched at it and got restless and then went back to looking at books. It happened again but more intense and I realized it was coming from the guy standing next to me. Then he finally said something and we talked a bit. Just before he left he put his hand over my right shoulder and the heat that came through my shoulder and down around another 6 inches or so, was so intense, it blew me away. I had no idea a human could do that. For myself, I don't know if I could ever get that much energy up. Its difficult to believe unless you experience it for yourself.

I wouldn't doubt that there are at least around 200,000 people or more (give or take) who have at least tried EFT once, since its up on the net all the time. It doesn't sound like a whole lot, but the numbers do keep climbing. The lovely thing is that you can simply do it for yourself and don't have to join anything. Or, you can find one other person to do it with and have a field day experimenting with it. No one is "screwing" you over and you have to scream at them for your "money back" guarantee.

Its cool if you do try it, but I'm kinda beyond "having" to have someone try it out. The subject came up on the community threads and so I thought I'd respond to it because I use it. Other than that, I can enjoy talking about it, but the only thing I have to gain by it is if someone tries it out, then I get to talk to them about it, which is always fun to do :).

:) Kozee

Isn't the bottom line the subjective state of the patient? Isn't the whole purpose of any kind of "therapy" to make the patient feel better? If an "alternative" therapy can accomplish that, then that therapy works, by the only really valid criteria - the subjective opinion of the patient. Anything else is someone else trying to push an agenda.

Healed, cured, all the same thing.

What lead you to that conclusion?

I have no doubt that you felt something, unless this is all a way to take advantage of people, and I make no judgments but there are those kinds of folks out there.

No not difficult at all, just an all together different conclusion is required to make it easy to believe.

I agree, and my point is on intellectual honesty and knowing why something works.

Do you think it would stop working if the person receiving the therapy knew why it worked?

Yes, the subjective plays an important part because it has the power to also change things physically as well.

The only way to judge something as to its workability is by what the body and being are putting forth. I don't actually know of any other way at this point in my life of how one would know if something worked or not.

Kozee

Healed, cured, all the same thing.

My apologies. I left out info. When dealing with words and legal stuff, its all about words. For instance I can't "legally" call myself a therapist because I don't have the credentials. If someone wanted to pursue getting me in trouble for that, they could. The same with other words, I have found out. If I said I could "cure" something who knows who could come after me. I think if people who had to go to Mexico to continue some sort of alternative medicine, didn't use certain words, they may not have had such a tough time - but that's just a speculation on my part about that.

So, "healed" is very similar to "cure", but it won't get me in trouble. Just like "coaching" will not get me in trouble like "therapist" would.

However, even though I "have" done some healing and watched body's heal in small ways (I've never done a cancer patient), its still not my "forte" and I don't specialize in it.

What lead you to that conclusion?

The person being administered to said they either felt a lot better or whatever it was they had was gone or at least disappearing.



I have no doubt that you felt something, unless this is all a way to take advantage of people, and I make no judgments but there are those kinds of folks out there.

I wish I knew how to take advantage of people in the way I believe you mean - I wouldn't be on this particular website and I'd be rich.



No not difficult at all, just an all together different conclusion is required to make it easy to believe.

The guy admitted to me that he had done it. He also said he couldn't "turn it off". He was like that all the time. I personally wouldn't want to be like that "all the time". He said that sometimes certain types machinery would jam or stop because of it, but he didn't do it intentionally. Like compasses would go crazy. This I didn't see for myself, but I know what I was feeling. You can't see electricity, but if you've been shocked by a loose wire in a puddle of water - you can't see it, but you feel it. He wasn't "that" amped up, but its a similar example.

I agree, and my point is on intellectual honesty and knowing why something works.

In order for me to figure out only some of the reasons why healing or some therapies work, I looked things up on line as to how the body worked and in what way the intention of the "driver" of the body (so to speak) can influence the body (along with other drivers of bodies). I haven't done a "thorough" job, just enough to get the idea.
Here's a youtube that you can either believe or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_r4tDQM3Lg
I have Dr. Emoto's book. Does make one think a bit as far as how we influence our bodies since our bodies are about 75% water.

Do you think it would stop working if the person receiving the therapy knew why it worked?

Even if I gave you a magick show or an illusion like Chris Angel does and you found out how it worked, it doesn't mean that there still wouldn't be an illusion there that you were looking at. If I told you all about how actors create characters, it doesn't mean that a really good actor still couldn't make you forget that he's acting and you'd get into the character and enjoy the show.

If you looked up in a logical way how the body creates certain energies and manifests through its cellular and other organs to form different tiny little structures and how the mind, brain and being can to some greater or lesser degree create an effect on the body, wouldn't this enhance things instead of having a rejection of them or belief that it wouldn't work?

No. But neither do I think it would stop working if the person receiving the therapy didn’t know why it worked, so I guess I don’t understand the point of the question.

If one wishes to be intellectually honest, that is fine. But it is also fine if they don’t. As your question implies, intellectual honesty is not a requirement for workability.