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Topic: Yahweh and Jesus, what's the difference?
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Mon 12/29/08 04:12 PM


I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?


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Mon 12/29/08 04:16 PM



I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?


bigsmile good questionflowerforyou

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Mon 12/29/08 04:43 PM



I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?




Yahweh is the heavenly Father's name

Emmanuael means El is with us....I'd have to get really deep into that one, and will only do that if you sincerely want to know...

Yahshua is the Messiah name (he was a Hebrew and Hebrew parents give their children Hebrew names not Greek names)

Yahshua means Yah's Salvation

jesus is a made up name, with no meaning, rhyme or reason behind it.
If one was going to translate the name Yahshua it would be Joshua, not jesus. Although why people insist with the fallacy that one's name changes from country to country is a mystery to me. My name is my name in every country I have been to, and it has never changed.

Two names: Yahweh the Heavenly Father, Yahshua The Messiah Yah's son

As for why people tell their children that last lie I don't know. I find it very disturbing. What is even worse they teach their children about the mythical character satan's claws...oops I means santa claws, no santa claus. I guess the jc and sc go hand in hand, neither of them Scripture.

To make matters worse they are lying to their babies and when their child is old enough to know the truth, they start wondering what else did their parents lie about...that opens up a whole new can of worms!

Shalom!

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Mon 12/29/08 04:46 PM




I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?




Yahweh is the heavenly Father's name

Emmanuael means El is with us....I'd have to get really deep into that one, and will only do that if you sincerely want to know...

Yahshua is the Messiah name (he was a Hebrew and Hebrew parents give their children Hebrew names not Greek names)

Yahshua means Yah's Salvation

jesus is a made up name, with no meaning, rhyme or reason behind it.
If one was going to translate the name Yahshua it would be Joshua, not jesus. Although why people insist with the fallacy that one's name changes from country to country is a mystery to me. My name is my name in every country I have been to, and it has never changed.

Two names: Yahweh the Heavenly Father, Yahshua The Messiah Yah's son

As for why people tell their children that last lie I don't know. I find it very disturbing. What is even worse they teach their children about the mythical character satan's claws...oops I means santa claws, no santa claus. I guess the jc and sc go hand in hand, neither of them Scripture.

To make matters worse they are lying to their babies and when their child is old enough to know the truth, they start wondering what else did their parents lie about...that opens up a whole new can of worms!

Shalom!



flowerforyou Good answerflowerforyou

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Mon 12/29/08 06:53 PM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Mon 12/29/08 06:54 PM




Yahweh is the heavenly Father's name

Emmanuael means El is with us....I'd have to get really deep into that one, and will only do that if you sincerely want to know...

Yahshua is the Messiah name (he was a Hebrew and Hebrew parents give their children Hebrew names not Greek names)

Yahshua means Yah's Salvation

jesus is a made up name, with no meaning, rhyme or reason behind it.
If one was going to translate the name Yahshua it would be Joshua, not jesus. Although why people insist with the fallacy that one's name changes from country to country is a mystery to me. My name is my name in every country I have been to, and it has never changed.

Two names: Yahweh the Heavenly Father, Yahshua The Messiah Yah's son



That was really interesting. Thanks for taking the time to post that. flowerforyou

Good question, JB! flowerforyou

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Mon 12/29/08 06:57 PM





I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?




Yahweh is the heavenly Father's name

Emmanuael means El is with us....I'd have to get really deep into that one, and will only do that if you sincerely want to know...

Yahshua is the Messiah name (he was a Hebrew and Hebrew parents give their children Hebrew names not Greek names)

Yahshua means Yah's Salvation

jesus is a made up name, with no meaning, rhyme or reason behind it.
If one was going to translate the name Yahshua it would be Joshua, not jesus. Although why people insist with the fallacy that one's name changes from country to country is a mystery to me. My name is my name in every country I have been to, and it has never changed.

Two names: Yahweh the Heavenly Father, Yahshua The Messiah Yah's son

As for why people tell their children that last lie I don't know. I find it very disturbing. What is even worse they teach their children about the mythical character satan's claws...oops I means santa claws, no santa claus. I guess the jc and sc go hand in hand, neither of them Scripture.

To make matters worse they are lying to their babies and when their child is old enough to know the truth, they start wondering what else did their parents lie about...that opens up a whole new can of worms!

Shalom!



flowerforyou Good answerflowerforyou


Excellent answer! Normally, most christians don't even know the difference between Jesus and God. I'm impressed. I gotta look at your profile now. Most of these christians that post I don't respond to 'cause they know so little or they think they know so much! Grace & Peace, David

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Mon 12/29/08 07:13 PM
The Names of God
by Lambert Dolphin



Old Testament (The Hebrew Scriptures, or Tanach):

EL: God ("mighty, strong, prominent") used 250 times in the OT See Gen. 7:1, 28:3, 35:11; Nu. 23:22; Josh. 3:10; 2 Sam. 22:31, 32; Neh. 1:5, 9:32; Isa. 9:6; Ezek. 10:5. El is linguistically equivalent to the Moslem "Allah," but the attributes of Allah in Islam are entirely different from those of the God of the Hebrews.
ELAH is Aramaic, "god." Elah appears in the Hebrew Bible in Jer. 10:11 (which is in Aramaic, and is plural, "gods"). In Daniel (the Aramaic sections) Elah is used both of pagan gods, and of the true God, also plural. Elah is equivalent to the Hebrew Eloah which some think is dual; Elohim is three or more. The gods of the nations are called "elohim." The origin of Eloah is obscure. Elohim is the more common plural form of El. Eloah is used 41 times in Job between 3:4 and 40:2, but fewer than 15 times elsewhere in the OT. See the Catholic Encyclopedia entry on Elohim.

ELOHIM: God (a plural noun, more than two, used with singular verbs); Elohim occurs 2,570 times in the OT, 32 times in Gen. 1. God as Creator, Preserver, Transcendent, Mighty and Strong. Eccl., Dan. Jonah use Elohim almost exclusively. See Gen. 17:7, 6:18, 9:15, 50:24; I Kings 8:23; Jer. 31:33; Isa. 40:1.

EL SHADDAI: God Almighty or "God All Sufficient." 48 times in the OT, 31 times in Job. First used in Gen. 17:1, 2. (Gen. 31:29, 49:24, 25; Prov. 3:27; Micah 2:1; Isa. 60:15, 16, 66:10-13; Ruth 1:20, 21) In Rev. 16:7, "Lord God the Almighty." The Septuagint uses Greek "ikanos" meaning "all-sufficient" or "self-sufficient." The idols of the heathen are called "sheddim."

ADONAI: Lord in our English Bibles (Capitol letter 'L ', lower case, 'ord') (Adonai is plural, the sing. is "adon"). "Master'' or "Lord" 300 times in the OT always plural when referring to God, when sing. the reference is to a human lord. Used 215 times to refer to men. First use of Adonai, Gen. 15:2. (Ex. 4:10; Judges 6:15; 2 Sam. 7:18-20; Ps. 8, 114:7, 135:5, 141:8, 109:21-28). Heavy use in Isaiah (Adonai Jehovah). 200 times by Ezekiel. Ten times in Dan. 9.



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JEHOVAH: LORD in our English Bibles (all capitals). Yahweh is the covenant name of God. Occurs 6823 times in the OT First use Gen. 2:4 (Jehovah Elohim). From the verb "to be", havah, similar to chavah (to live), "The Self-Existent One," "I AM WHO I AM" or 'I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE" as revealed to Moses at the burning bush, Ex.3. The name of God, too sacred to be uttered, abbreviated ( . . . . ) or written "YHWH" without vowel points. The tetragrammaton. Josh., Judges, Sam., and Kings use Jehovah almost exclusively. The love of God is conditioned upon His moral and spiritual attributes. (Dan. 9:14; Ps. 11:7; Lev. 19:2; Hab. 1:12). Note Deut. 6:4, 5 known to Jews as the Sh'ma uses both Jehovah and Elohim to indicate one God with a plurality of persons.

JEHOVAH-JIREH: "The Lord will Provide." Gen. 22:14. From "jireh" ("to see" or "to provide," or to "foresee" as a prophet.) God always provides, adequate when the times come.

JEHOVAH-ROPHE: "The Lord Who Heals" Ex. 15:22-26. From "rophe" ("to heal"); implies spiritual, emotional as well as physical healing. (Jer. 30:17, 3:22; Isa. 61:1) God heals body, soul and spirit; all levels of man's being.

JEHOVAH-NISSI: "The Lord Our Banner." Ex. 17:15. God on the battlefield, from word which means "to glisten," "to lift up," See Psalm 4:6.

JEHOVAH-M'KADDESH: "The Lord Who Sanctifies" Lev. 20:8. "To make whole, set apart for holiness."

JEHOVAH-SHALOM: "The Lord Our Peace" Judges 6:24. "Shalom" translated "peace" 170 times means "whole," "finished," "fulfilled," "perfected." Related to "well," welfare." Deut. 27:6; Dan. 5:26; I Kings 9:25 8:61; Gen. 15:16; Ex. 21:34, 22:5, 6; Lev. 7:11-21. Shalom means that kind of peace that results from being a whole person in right relationship to God and to one's fellow man.

SHEPHERD: Psa. 23, 79:13, 95:7, 80:1, 100:3; Gen. 49:24; Isa. 40:11.

JUDGE: Psa. 7:8, 96:13.

JEHOVAH ELOHIM: "LORD God" Gen. 2:4; Judges 5:3; Isa. 17:6; Zeph. 2:9; Psa. 59:5, etc.

JEHOVAH-TSIDKENU "The Lord Our Righteousness" Jer. 23:5, 6, 33:16. From "tsidek" (straight, stiff, balanced - as on scales - full weight, justice, right, righteous, declared innocent.) God our Righteousness.

JEHOVAH-ROHI: "The Lord Our Shepherd" Psa. 23, from "ro'eh" (to pasture).

JEHOVAH-SHAMMAH: "The Lord is There" (Ezek. 48:35).

JEHOVAH-SABAOTH: "The Lord of Hosts" The commander of the angelic host and the armies of God. Isa. 1:24; Psa. 46:7, 11; 2 Kings 3:9-12; Jer. 11:20 (NT: Rom. 9:29; James 5:4, Rev. 19: 11-16).



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EL ELYON: 'Most High" (from "to go up") Deut. 26:19, 32:8; Psa. 18:13; Gen. 14:18; Nu. 24:16; Psa. 78:35, 7:17, 18:13, 97:9, 56:2, 78:56, 18:13; Dan. 7:25, 27; Isa. 14:14.

ABHIR: 'Mighty One', ("to be strong") Gen. 49:24; Deut. 10:17; Psa. 132:2, 5; Isa. 1:24, 49:26, 60:1.

BRANCH: (tsemach), The Branch: Zech. 3:8, 6:12; Isa. 4:2; Jer. 23:5, 33:15.

KADOSH: "Holy One" Psa. 71:22; Isa. 40:25, 43:3, 48:17. Isaiah uses the expression "the Holy One of Israel" 29 times.

SHAPHAT: "Judge" Gen. 18:25

EL ROI: "God of Seeing" Hagar in Gen. 16:13. The God Who opens our eyes.

KANNA: "Jealous" (zealous). Ex. 20:5, 34:14; Deut. 5:9; Isa. 9:7; Zech. 1:14, 8:2.

PALET: "Deliverer" Psa. 18:2.

YESHUA: (Yeshua) "Savior" ("he will save"). Isa. 43:3. Jesus is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew "Joshua." The latter is a contraction of Je-Hoshua. ("Christ", the anointed one is equivalent to the Hebrew Maschiah, or Messiah). [See Wikipedia article].

GAOL: "Redeemer" (to buy back by paying a price). Job 19:25; For example, the antitype corresponding to Boaz the Kinsman-Redeemer in the Book of Ruth.

MAGEN: "Shield" Psa. 3:3, 18:30.

STONE: Gen. 49:24

EYALUTH: "Strength" Psa. 22:19.

TSADDIQ: "Righteous One" Psa. 7:9.

EL-OLAM: "Everlasting God" (God of everlasting time) Gen. 21:33; Psa. 90:1-3, 93:2; Isa. 26:4.

EL-BERITH: "God of the Covenant" Used of Baal in Judges 9:46. Probably used originally to refer to the God of israel.

EL-GIBHOR: Mighty God (Isa. 9:6)

ZUR: "God our Rock" Deut. 32:18; Isa. 30:29.

Malachi calls Messiah "The Sun of Righteousness" (Malachi 4:2).

Isaiah calls Messiah "Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God (El Gibhor), Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" (Isa. 9:6).

'Attiq Yomin (Aramaic): "Ancient of Days," Dan. 7:9, 13, 22.

MELEKH: "King" Psa. 5:2, 29:10, 44:4, 47:6-8, 48:2, 68:24, 74:12, 95:3, 97:1, 99:4, 146:10; Isa. 5:1, 5, 41:21, 43:15, 44:6; 52:7, 52:10.

"The Angel of the Lord: " Gen. 16:7ff, 21:17, 22:11, 15ff, 18:1-19:1, 24:7, 40, 31:11-13, 32:24-30; Ex. 3:6, 13:21, Ezek. 1:10-13. Seen in the theophanies, or pre-incarnate appearances of the Son of God in the OT (See I Cor. 10:3 NT).

FATHER: 2 Sam. 7:14-15; Psa. 68:5; Isa. 63:16, 64:8; Mal. 1:6.

THE FIRST AND LAST: Isa. 44:6, 48:12.




New Testament Scriptures, (Greek):
KURIOS: (kurios) "Lord" Found some 600 times in the NT.

DESPOTES: (despotes) "Lord" 5 times: Lu. 2:29; Acts 4:24; 2 Pet. 2:1; Jude 4; Rev. 6:10.

THEOS: (yeos) "God" (equivalent to the Hebrew Elohim), 1,000 times in the NT. In the NT all the persons of the trinity are called "God" at one time or another.

I AM: Jesus upset his generation especially when He said, "Before Abraham was, I AM," John 8:58. Note also his claim to be Jehovah in such phrases as "I AM the Light of the world," "the bread of life," living water," "the Resurrection and the Life," "the Way, Truth and the Life" in John's Gospel. From the Hebrew OT verb "to be" signifying a Living, Intelligent, Personal Being.

THEOTES: "Godhead" Col. 2:9; Rom. 1:20.

HUPSISTOS: "Highest" Mt. 21:9.

SOTER: (soter) "Savior" Luke 1:4 7.

WORD: (logos) John 1:1ff

ALMIGHTY: (pantokrator) 2 Cor. 6:18, Revelation, 9t, e.g. 19:6.



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JESUS: Derived from the Hebrew "Joshua" (Y'shua) or "Je-Hoshua" meaning JEHOVAH IS SALVATION.




CHRIST: is equivalent to the Hebrew 'Messiah' (Meshiach), "The Anointed One."

Other NT Titles for Jesus: Shepherd of the Sheep; Master; King of kings; Lord of lords; Bishop and Guardian of our Souls; Daystar, Deliverer, Advocate, Last (or Second) Adam, Ancient of Days, Branch, Chief Cornerstone, Immanuel, First Born, Head of the Body, Physician, Rock, Root of Jesse, Stone, Potentate; Chief Apostle; Great High Priest; Pioneer and Perfecter of our Faith (or Author and Finisher); Lamb of God; Lamb Slain before the Foundation of the World; Lord God Almighty.




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LOGOS: "The Word of God" John l; Rev. 19:13.

SOPHIA: "The Wisdom of God," referring to Christ, refers back to Proverbs (I Cor. 1,2)

Father, Son, Holy Spirit: Christian orthodoxy has always understood God to be One God in Three Persons (Elohim). In The NT each person of the godhead is called "God" and "Lord" at least once.

Names for the Holy Spirit: Counselor; Comforter; Baptizer; Advocate; Strengthener; Sanctifier; Spirit of Christ (not the same as the spirit of Christ); Seven-Fold Spirit (Rev.); Spirit of Truth; Spirit of Grace; Spirit of Mercy; Spirit of God; Spirit of Holiness; Spirit of Life. Symbolized in OT and NT by (l) breath or wind; (2) fire; (3) water; (4) oil; (5) light; (6) a dove.

The Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ: Most Study Bibles have notes which give references to the Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Here is what the Scofield Study Bible Notes say:

(1) In the intimations and explicit predictions of the O.T. (a) The theophanies intimate the appearance of God in human form, and His ministry thus to man (Gen. 16:7-13; 18:2-23. especially v. 17; 32. 28 with Hos. 12:3-5; Ex. 3:2-14). (b) The Messiah is expressly declared to be the Son of God (Psa. 2:2-9), and God (Psa. 45:6, 7 with Heb. 1:8,9; Psa. 110. with Mt. 22:44; Acts 2:34 and Heb. 1:13; Psa. 110.4 with Heb. 5:6; 6. 20:7. 17-21; and Zech. 6:13). (c) His virgin birth was foretold as the means through which God could be "Immanuel," God with us (Isa. 7:13, 14 with Mt. 1:22, 23). (d) The Messiah is expressly invested with the divine names (Isa. 9:6, 7). (e) In a prophecy of His death He is called Jehovah's "fellow" (Zech. 13:7 with Mt. 26:31). (f) His eternal being is declared (Mic. 5:2 with Mt. 2:6; John 7:42).

(2) Christ Himself affirmed His deity. (a) He applied to Himself the Jeho-vistic I AM. (The pronoun "he" is not in the Greek; cf. John 8:24; John 8:56-58. The Jews correctly understood this to be our Lord's claim to full deity [v. 59]. See, also, John 10:33; 18:4-6, where, also "he" is not in the original.) (b) He claimed to be the Adonai of the O.T. (Mt. 22:42-45. See Gen. 15:2, note). (c) He asserted His identity with the Father (Mt. 28:19; Mk. 14:62; John 10:30; that the Jews so understood Him is shown by vs. 31, 32; John 14:8, 9; 17. 5). (d) He exercised the chief prerogative of God (Mk. 2:5-7; Lk. 7:48-50). (e) He asserted omnipresence (Mt. 18:20; John 3:13); omniscience (John 11:11-14, when Jesus was fifty miles away; Mk. 11:6-8); omnipotence (Mt. 28:18; Lk. 7:14; John 5:21-23; 6. is); mastery over nature, and creative power (Lk. 9:16. 17; John 2:9, 10:28). (f) He received and approved human worship (Mt. 14:33; 28: 9, John 20: 28, 29).

(3) The N.T. writers ascribe divine titles to Christ (John 1:1; 20. 28; Acts 20:28; Rom. 1:4; 9:5; 2 Thess. 1:12; 1 Tim. 3:16; Tit. 2:23; Heb. 1:8; 1 John 5:20).

(4) The N.T. writers ascribe divine perfections and attributes to Christ (e.g. Mt. 11:28; 18:20, 28:20; John 1:2, 2:23-25; 3:13; 5:17; 21:17; Heb. 1:3, 11, 12 with Heb. 13:8; Rev. 1:8,17,18; 2:23; 11. 17; 22:13).

(5) The N.T. writers ascribe divine works to Christ (John 1:3. 16:17, Col. 1:16, 17; Heb. 1:3).

(6) The N.T. writers teach that supreme worship should be paid to Christ (Acts 7:59, 60; 1 Cor. 1:2; 2 Cor. 13:14, Phil. 2:9, 10; Heb. 1:6; Rev. 1:5, 6; 5. 12, 13).

(7) The holiness and resurrection of Christ prove His deity (John 8:46; Rom. 1:4).

Philippians 2 is the great Chapter on the kenosis or self-emptying of the Lord Jesus Christ when He became a man. His equality with the Father as the Son of God is stated here.

Note also John 5:18 "This was why the Jews sought all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the sabbath but also called God his Father, making himself equal with God."

A well-known NT passage of mine is Romans 9:5 "...to them (the Jewish race) belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Messiah (who is) God who is over all, blessed for ever. Amen."

ALPHA AND OMEGA: The First and the Last, The Beginning and The End (Rev. 1).


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Mon 12/29/08 10:39 PM
JESUS: Derived from the Hebrew "Joshua" (Y'shua) or "Je-Hoshua" meaning JEHOVAH IS SALVATION.



Why change Joshua to Jesus? I like Joshua better. And exactly HOW is Jesus "derived" from "Joshua?" This does not make any sense.

The "Jehovah" names are more like titles than names of a real person.

Elohim, being plural, seem more like a race of alien beings or extraterrestrials who were mistook for gods.

"Lord" was a title use for any ruler, master of slaves or servants, or over-lord.

Both "Master" and "Lord" are not reserved for God or gods. These were used as titles for royalty or rulers.

It seems like people interpreting the Bible mistook many things to mean "God."






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Tue 12/30/08 04:37 AM
YHVH = Our Heavenly Father


Yashua = Christ


YHVH ( Yah Ha Vay )

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Tue 12/30/08 04:39 AM
God and Christ are pretty smart, they know who we are talking to or about when we pray whatever name you use :angel: :thumbsup:

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Tue 12/30/08 06:13 PM

God and Christ are pretty smart, they know who we are talking to or about when we pray whatever name you use :angel: :thumbsup:


God answers to all.

I call the feminine side of God: Leah,
Naomi, and Dorthia. And I actually view that side of God as a yin trinity for personal reasons.

On the masculine side I just refer to God as Herne and I view the yang as an omniscient singularity.

Of course, when I refer to the entire Holy Spirit I prefer the name Wanka Tanka.

Jesus was the Son of Naomi. Of course, physically he was the son of Mary a mortal woman and Joseph a mortal man. But since Namoi is the mother of all she's ultimately the mother of Jesus as well as Yahweh, Allah, and, of course, Herne. Or any other name that has been given to a gender aspect of God.

It doesn't really matter what we call God. God truly doesn't care because God truly doesn't have a name.

I think Wanka Tanka is a pretty name for the all-encompassing omniscient Holy Spirit though, don't you? flowerforyou

Once we create gender for God we can name him or her whatever we like because at that point we've chosen to become the creator. bigsmile

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Wed 12/31/08 01:56 PM
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Yahweh is the heavenly Father's name

Emmanuael means El is with us....I'd have to get really deep into that one, and will only do that if you sincerely want to know...

Yahshua is the Messiah name (he was a Hebrew and Hebrew parents give their children Hebrew names not Greek names)

Yahshua means Yah's Salvation

jesus is a made up name, with no meaning, rhyme or reason behind it.
If one was going to translate the name Yahshua it would be Joshua, not jesus. Although why people insist with the fallacy that one's name changes from country to country is a mystery to me. My name is my name in every country I have been to, and it has never changed.

Two names: Yahweh the Heavenly Father, Yahshua The Messiah Yah's son

As for why people tell their children that last lie I don't know. I find it very disturbing. What is even worse they teach their children about the mythical character satan's claws...oops I means santa claws, no santa claus. I guess the jc and sc go hand in hand, neither of them Scripture.

To make matters worse they are lying to their babies and when their child is old enough to know the truth, they start wondering what else did their parents lie about...that opens up a whole new can of worms!

Shalom!


I could not have said this better myself.
The Creator's Name is not God, His Name is Yahweh, His Beloved Son's Name is not Jesus, His Name is Yahushua. If you research the Sacred Name of the Creator and His Beloved Son you will see diff variations of the Spelling, but in any case The Messiah is an Yisraelite ,with a Hebrew Name, not greek,or english. He spoke Aramaic, and Hebrew. He was called by a Hebrew Name. Peoples names do not change because they go to another country. It is the same wherever you go. They will no translate your name if you visit china, or wherever. You will still be called by your given native name.:smile:

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Wed 12/31/08 02:05 PM


God and Christ are pretty smart, they know who we are talking to or about when we pray whatever name you use :angel: :thumbsup:


God answers to all.

I call the feminine side of God: Leah,
Naomi, and Dorthia. And I actually view that side of God as a yin trinity for personal reasons.

On the masculine side I just refer to God as Herne and I view the yang as an omniscient singularity.

Of course, when I refer to the entire Holy Spirit I prefer the name Wanka Tanka.

Jesus was the Son of Naomi. Of course, physically he was the son of Mary a mortal woman and Joseph a mortal man. But since Namoi is the mother of all she's ultimately the mother of Jesus as well as Yahweh, Allah, and, of course, Herne. Or any other name that has been given to a gender aspect of God.

It doesn't really matter what we call God. God truly doesn't care because God truly doesn't have a name.

I think Wanka Tanka is a pretty name for the all-encompassing omniscient Holy Spirit though, don't you? flowerforyou

Once we create gender for God we can name him or her whatever we like because at that point we've chosen to become the creator. bigsmile


Wanka Tanka agrees drinker

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Wed 12/31/08 03:00 PM



I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?



if u don't believe in any, why do u care anyhow?
that is the part which i don't get from non-believers.
By God the name say it "NON=BELIEVER" that should mean "I do not believe. Therefore, I do not care."

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Wed 12/31/08 03:04 PM




I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?



if u don't believe in any, why do u care anyhow?
that is the part which i don't get from non-believers.
By God the name say it "NON=BELIEVER" that should mean "I do not believe. Therefore, I do not care."


Simple, before you can beat your enemy, you must first know your enemy.

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Wed 12/31/08 03:06 PM





I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?



if u don't believe in any, why do u care anyhow?
that is the part which i don't get from non-believers.
By God the name say it "NON=BELIEVER" that should mean "I do not believe. Therefore, I do not care."


Simple, before you can beat your enemy, you must first know your enemy.



How's that workin out for ya ?

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Wed 12/31/08 03:08 PM




I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?



if u don't believe in any, why do u care anyhow?
that is the part which i don't get from non-believers.
By God the name say it "NON=BELIEVER" that should mean "I do not believe. Therefore, I do not care."



Same sentiment here about the non-believers...

"Me thinks thou dos't protest too much"

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Wed 12/31/08 03:10 PM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Wed 12/31/08 03:11 PM




I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?



if u don't believe in any, why do u care anyhow?
that is the part which i don't get from non-believers.
By God the name say it "NON=BELIEVER" that should mean "I do not believe. Therefore, I do not care."


Some of us find the study of religion and history to be very interesting. The two subjects actually go hand in hand. As does learning about people and human nature. It is all very interesting to me and I find a certain amount of truth in every religion.

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Wed 12/31/08 03:15 PM





I don't get it. I here Yahweh, I here Jesus, I here that the Bible said a child would be born named Emanuel...

I here that Jesus was not his real name, it was Joshua.... etc etc.

Why so many names? And everyone knows Jesus was not born on Christmas so why are children taught these things as if they were facts?



if u don't believe in any, why do u care anyhow?
that is the part which i don't get from non-believers.
By God the name say it "NON=BELIEVER" that should mean "I do not believe. Therefore, I do not care."


Some of us find the study of religion and history to be very interesting. The two subjects actually go hand in hand. As does learning about people and human nature. It is all very interesting to me and I find a certain amount of truth in every religion.



Same here Miss Ruth (Happy New Year, btw :smile: :banana: )


I find most religions interesting too, along with their histories.
What I don't get is the athiest who rant on and on about about it. I think if I WAS an athiest (God forbid), it would just be a complete non-issue to me, not deserving any consideration on my part whatsoever.

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Wed 12/31/08 03:17 PM

Same here Miss Ruth (Happy New Year, btw :smile: :banana: )


I find most religions interesting too, along with their histories.
What I don't get is the athiest who rant on and on about about it. I think if I WAS an athiest (God forbid), it would just be a complete non-issue to me, not deserving any consideration on my part whatsoever.


Happy New Year, Allen. May 2009 be the best year ever for you. flowers

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