Topic: Would you find a mate easier if........
SamaraNJ's photo
Sun 12/14/08 05:14 PM
Absolutely..

I've dated guys that I wasn't physically attracted to.. AT ALL.. but nice guys that deserved a chance.. but.. when the time came to kiss.. sometimes I just couldn't do it.. so if Im shallow or whatever then so be it.. but if I can't kiss them and enjoy it.. I can't continue it...




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Sun 12/14/08 05:14 PM




Interesting topic, to be honest, I have dated short men, tall men,gorgeous men and not so gorgeous men. For me I will admit I look at eye candy, but for me to be turned on sexually it is more of a mental thing. So like some above the physical isn't the deal breaker for me.

You can fix ugly body but you can't fix an ugly spirit most of the time.


This is pretty much the way I feel. Sure, someone with a hot body is nice. Though, if there's nothing else there, I'm not going to be attracted or turned on sexually.


So the pics of those handsome studs with no shirts on and muscles in all the right places don't do a damn thing for you cuz you can't hear what they say???

No offense, but I'm not sure I totally buy that.


I think you need to reread what I posted here. in my post it states...
For me I will admit I look at eye candy, it takes a hell of a lot more than a pretty body to turn me on. Actually since we are all being honest here. I have always said this and I stand by my words. If a man can't stimulate my mind he sure in the hell can't stimulate my body.


Sitka, my response wasn't directed at your comment ( even though I still won't totally buy that line of thinking from any woman ). It was directed toward Singme based on an earlier conversation the two of us had a little while ago.

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Sun 12/14/08 05:19 PM

Absolutely..

I've dated guys that I wasn't physically attracted to.. AT ALL.. but nice guys that deserved a chance.. but.. when the time came to kiss.. sometimes I just couldn't do it.. so if Im shallow or whatever then so be it.. but if I can't kiss them and enjoy it.. I can't continue it...





Yes.....the same for me. I've dated one man.... a good man...a man I wanted so badly to like and love but....nothing....no physical attraction whatsoever. There was no way I could go through life without at least some spark. It's too bad because he's now married and it's a wonderful marriage...I envy his wife...not becasue she has him....I don't want him.....but because she has the happiness he brings her that I couldn't get from him.

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Sun 12/14/08 05:23 PM

Quote from Lexfontayne out of context.....

"the fact is that none of my "deal-breakers" has anything to do with physical appearance."

A man that doesn't include physical appearance....beauty or the lack of... as a deal breaker.... Can a man such as this really exist? So if you're still single....and you're not constrained by the chains of physical attraction and lust..... you must have other bonds which keep you back.


I won't say it's not a consideration -- only that I wouldn't use it as an incontrovertible deal-breaker.

I have other criteria that pretty much eliminate 112% of the female population, in general, from consideration, and 178% of the female population on this site!



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Sun 12/14/08 05:32 PM



I won't say it's not a consideration -- only that I wouldn't use it as an incontrovertible deal-breaker.

I have other criteria that pretty much eliminate 112% of the female population, in general, from consideration, and 178% of the female population on this site!




...hey look....by hitting quote I learned how you changed colors .....Did I do it...did it work?

If 100% equals all the female population and you eliminated 112% of the population....then you're eliminating the unborn. laugh.... I'm sure you're just exaggerating .....maybe. Now about your profile.....scared

mariposakc's photo
Sun 12/14/08 05:35 PM
Ouch Lex.

I believe that a man or woman can transcend most phyiscal flaws by their intelligence, their self confidence, their compassion, their ability to see beyond themselves, and optimistic attitude. With all that being said, I do have a physical deal breaker; the teeth. Must have them.

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Sun 12/14/08 05:39 PM

yes, i feel that it would make dating much easier. because it would go both ways. where as i do like to look at someone thats easy on the eyes all the time, if they dont have the right mental/spiritual beauty, then the deal is off. and also if this scenario were true, then more people would be willing to get to know me for me as opposed to what i look like.

I didn't mean it would go both ways. If you and only you had the brain defect I mentioned would you then have an easier time finding a mate? Are you sure there aren't thousands of women out there that might think you look handsome but they are not considered by you because you can't see past their physical appearance.
I'm just trying to get some different points of views from men.....I hope I'm not coming of as hostile because I'm not. Just prodding you is all. See, big smile>>>bigsmile

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Sun 12/14/08 05:42 PM

If 100% equals all the female population and you eliminated 112% of the population....then you're eliminating the unborn. laugh.... I'm sure you're just exaggerating .....maybe.


Maybe slightly -- the practical effect is the same. 108% is not really statistically very different from 112%.

Eliminating the unborn from the "pool" saves time later on, too.


Now about your profile.....scared


Meh -- it is what it is. People love it or they hate it. It doesn't change anything either way.



scoundrel's photo
Sun 12/14/08 05:45 PM

Would you find a mate easier if....... you were blind to physical beauty?


....So I'm curious.....would your dating life be easier without the bonds of physical attraction limiting your choices?

I hope it's not too late to edit to add more information.....I wonder if men in particular would consider the above mentioned defect to be a curse. Men?


um...I am only aroused by her spirit, because I've seen/met many "hot bodies" and learned that the charm/spirit must be there along with the physical grace.

I'm not into making excuses for why people's minds are not able to control their basic physical form. Lack of care is simply lack of care, or disbelief that it obviously matters.
IMO

So--the spirit must be right to click with me, in addition to basic good care of oneself.

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Sun 12/14/08 05:47 PM



Meh -- it is what it is. People love it or they hate it. It doesn't change anything either way.




The scared guy was meant in fun and I apologize if it came out differently. See ...him again>bigsmile

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Sun 12/14/08 05:47 PM

Ouch Lex.

I believe that a man or woman can transcend most phyiscal flaws by their intelligence, their self confidence, their compassion, their ability to see beyond themselves, and optimistic attitude.


I believe that too, provided -- and this is the snag -- that there's someone else willing to see things that way.

What I've found on dating sites is that people -- men AND women -- tend to say the things they think they're "supposed" to say, in order to avoid the appearance of being shallow, etc.

But, for every 100 women you see here posting that they want an intelligent, funny, understanding guy, I'd guess that 90 of them are actually looking for a guy with a big hole in his back where they can attach a steering wheel to him.

Intelligence simply does not play well on dating sites. It's too "non-mainstream" of a trait.


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Sun 12/14/08 05:48 PM




Meh -- it is what it is. People love it or they hate it. It doesn't change anything either way.




The scared guy was meant in fun and I apologize if it came out differently. See ...him again>bigsmile


No problem! I just meant that I get a LOT of comments about the profile. Some good, some bad. I don't much care either way. Not directed at you at all.



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Sun 12/14/08 05:49 PM
I wish I could say the same scoundrel.....it would make my life easier if I could get past some men's lack of attractiveness.



I really like this smiley......scared scared scared He reminds me of my baby brother.

Blaze1978's photo
Sun 12/14/08 05:50 PM

Would you find a mate easier if....... you were blind to physical beauty?


...okay...lets say you were born with a brain defect that made it so all people of the opposite sex were of equal physical attractiveness. Sort of like you were blind except your blindness only applied to a person's physical appearance.
.... Lets us say you still got sexually aroused but not by physical beauty...but instead by personality and mental beauty.

....So I'm curious.....would your dating life be easier without the bonds of physical attraction limiting your choices?

I hope it's not too late to edit to add more information.....I wonder if men in particular would consider the above mentioned defect to be a curse. Men?


No, because everyone has their own flaws and discrepencies and personal demons, regardless of how they look. Even the sweet sweet people.

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Sun 12/14/08 05:58 PM
Edited by Dan99 on Sun 12/14/08 06:06 PM
Some people actually are blind to it. I cant remember the name of the condition, or much about it at all for that matter, but there are people who find it impossible to recognise faces. I remember a sad programme about a young girl that couldnt recognise her own mother if she was standing right next to her. The best she could do was recognise the general shape of her.




Edit - it is called Prosopagnosia, or Face Blindness

http://www.prosopagnosia.com/

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Sun 12/14/08 06:04 PM
Edited by mariposakc on Sun 12/14/08 06:40 PM

Intelligence simply does not play well on dating sites. It's too "non-mainstream" of a trait.



I totally agree with you. I have wondered myself what the hell am I doing on these sights (pof an yahoo especially). The equivalent to the "meat market" dance clubs. I have found Mingle to sustain my focus because of the threads. I have found a few gems of interesting, articulate, witty, kind-hearted people that have stirred me.

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Sun 12/14/08 06:04 PM
in that case, it would still probably make things easier, but to be honest, i dont judge anybody until i get to know them. iv dated some very ugly women, but because i knew the real them it was ok for me. didnt work out in the end for other reasons that we wont go into here, but yeah. thats my opinion. and you didnt sound hostile. whisperss

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Sun 12/14/08 06:08 PM

I wish I could say the same scoundrel.....it would make my life easier if I could get past some men's lack of attractiveness.



I really like this smiley......scared scared scared He reminds me of my baby brother.


I understand that there are many dilemmas that are unique to each of us. Adding the effects of aging into the mix demands even more of true trust and bonding--devotion and commitment--that is very much more intimate than I knew during the decades of devil-may-care youth.

Challenges include fading vision, fading hearing, hair loss, dental works, poor memory, and myriad other things.

If success is not already banked and secure, then the mental and physical demands of work/career are a heavy task, and those things are calculated into the judgment of choosing to date and to become worthy of a person's hope and trust.

Your question about the priorities of character above the physical attraction is especially true among mature people.
The consistency of a person's character shows in their care for their own life in preparation for the latter half of life.
Even with forethought, the later forties and early fifties can be astonishing to some people, for it starts life anew, and is often marked by internal/psychological changes that seem uncharacteristic to the individual.

I apologize for such lengthy response, but you seem to have genuine interest and thoughtful reasoning.
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SitkaRains's photo
Sun 12/14/08 06:27 PM


Ouch Lex.

I believe that a man or woman can transcend most phyiscal flaws by their intelligence, their self confidence, their compassion, their ability to see beyond themselves, and optimistic attitude.


I believe that too, provided -- and this is the snag -- that there's someone else willing to see things that way.

What I've found on dating sites is that people -- men AND women -- tend to say the things they think they're "supposed" to say, in order to avoid the appearance of being shallow, etc.

But, for every 100 women you see here posting that they want an intelligent, funny, understanding guy, I'd guess that 90 of them are actually looking for a guy with a big hole in his back where they can attach a steering wheel to him.

Intelligence simply does not play well on dating sites. It's too "non-mainstream" of a trait.




Well first of all I am glad I have never cared about mainstream nor have I ever fit into a box...
Second of all to my physical attractiveness can be so many things it can be as little as a smile that lights up his entire being.
While we are being really honest here I personally will be more open to an average looking man than I will a drop dead gorgeous man. A really drop dead gorgeous man will have to work so hard to get close to me let alone a date. Been there done that.
In my 20's sure I dated eye candy in my 30's and up till now I want the person I want the person that is real.

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Sun 12/14/08 08:13 PM
Lengthy responses are fine scoundrel.....and I say the same to the others responding. I enjoy thoughtful topics and a good discussion. Truthfully though.... judging from from the amount of game topics and non topic topics I see abound on the mingle2 forum..... I might be out of place here and soon you'll all get tired of me. I'll have to find other forums in which to rant.