Fake or not, I just like to see them flex their muscles.

Not everyone can take "bumps" day in and day out, thats why everyone can't do it, almost anyone can go to a school for it, it you can last, it's tough and hard training, but a predetermined match is a fake match.And yes, I can take the bumps, run the ropes, get pile driven, suplexed, figure 4, I've even been body slammed on concrete, if you know what you are doing it is nothing to it, yes, you will be sore as hell the next day, but it is all fake, fake, fake.

short answer yes it's fake

you can get hurt

it's not all the glitz and glamour they have you believe

lots of travelling, motel rooms and all night driving to make another show, if you get lucky and make it to one of the top two, it gets a tad bit better, it's a hard life and not many would like it.

but it is still fake when you get down to it, not to say it is not hard on a body

I can say this though, If a fan gets in the ring and tries to interfere, standing rule, babies and heels trash em, that way, they will tell all their friends, man that chit wasn't fake look at me

Actually, it depends largely on the particular wrestler. Some guys, like Bret Hart, shared a mentality in which it was dishonorable to truly hurt one's opponent. Bret in particular was greatly skilled in making it appear that he had hurt someone when he truly had not.

Then there was, and is, the opposite side of the coin. Vader and Dynamite Kid, and others like them preferred to work "stiff" in order to better facilitate a sense of realism. This is sometimes called strong style. If that meant kicking the **** out of their opponents, so be it. Of course, it was done within reason, but there adversaries knew they'd been in a fight. They didn't work that way specifically because they were bullies, but because they felt it reflected best on the business that way.

When Vader avalanched someone in the corner, that wasn't selling. Vader typically left his feet on his avalanche so that it looked believable, and it was his opponent who paid for it. I gaurantee opponents felt every one of Dynamite's hard chops, and it's tough to dispute that when the red marks on the guy's chest are plainly visible.

The working styles were also different according to the territories. Traditionally, Memphis was always the area with the cheesiest, least believable wrestling.

The business has changed to a great degree since the territorial age. Back then, matches and storylines were more traditional and the styles were more repetitive. As the Japanese and the Mexicans began invading the States during the mid-to-late-90s, those styles slowly made headway into the American style, which became more demanding as a result. At the same time, Vince McMahon and WWE were taking steps to minimize the risk of injuries, until the comparably tamer WWE style evolved.

In Japan, the business has always been completely different. It is far more physical and strenuous because it's promoted as a sport---therefore, the matches have to be more realistic, and wrestlers have to strike and throw each other with a degree of force. There, if you enter the ring with any sort of mentality that you're going to simply have a safe match, the guys there will eat you up. There are plenty of horror stories of guys like Lawler appearing for a tour of Japan expecting to work like they do in the U.S...Lawler was given a dose of reality extremely quickly, and I think it's why he didn't do to many tours of the country.

There are different working styles in how snug or stiff one works, but the latter is as commonplace as the former.

I think there's a discrepency in your definition of fake and mine...when you say fake, you mean to say that the match outcomes are fixed to end a certain way, but that doesn't make it fake... to say it's fake implies utter phoniness in every applicable sense of the term and I don't agree with that. If it were fake, you wouldn't have wrestlers with arthritic joints in their early-30s.

I just take issue with people's bandying about of the term "fake." Any potential to get hurt should automatically disqualify the term as applicable.

WCW actually...

I'm sorry, but I have to nitpick!

I think every bit of it is real

Really Fake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFfx4f3aimQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsffopUIao0

Warning: just a few of my earlier graphic examples.

and I believe that Chris Angel is real too

And some typical Vader brutality...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z-sVl95KI2c

As far as I know, the young guy on the receiving end never wrestled again...

Chris Angel is quite real.

The stuff he does is based on illusion, but he's a real person.

storyline and events are fake..
actions are 60% real, the rest 40% is fake.
first blood match and hardcore match for example..

Its entirely real

wrestling is fake in a way and than again its not fake theres some videos on youtube that shows u whats fake and whats not fake about wrestling

While there are scripted story lines, and the need for some props to be not exactly like the seems, I still have to hand it to the wrestlers, because faking it requires talent too, unlike say, pro basketball.

It is fake in the sense that what you are seeing is not quite as physically intensive as how it appears. In fact, if they were actually slamming people down from ringside or bending spinal columns over knees in that manner, they would kill one another or cause permanent disability.

Professional wrestlers are highly trained acrobats and every single move you see performed in the ring is staged. They both know exactly what they are doing and they rehearse together.

It does not mean that they dont hurt one another. It happens all the time and its every bit as physically demanding as professional football as far as the punishment they endure.

It quite simply has the same appeal as what took place in ancient Rome with the gladiators. However that was real.

Its real.Its completely real dammit!!

it is a real fake

Krimsa is absolutely correct on this one. Highly trained acrobats, lol, I like that one.
There is plenty of room for injury even with it being scripted more or less. When it gets quiet at a smaller show, you will always have someone turn around to the fans and say something like "Shut Up" it's to make them scream and holler so the wrestlers can communicate while they are locked up and the fans can't hear them.