the history of every account of when Jesus was in its writing, would the book and religion still exist today, or would Christianity have died out like Ancient Egyptians, Greek, or Norse Mythologies?

well... the catholics did erase some books... I believe 13

those religions have far from died out. they are not in the volume of the massive hordes that the christians are, but in pockets of people here and there, and are far more quiet, for the christians do consider themselves a fighting, warring army for the rightiousness of their god, and have killed even today when they can get away with it.
i have been threatened myself in new orleans by evangelists, merely on appearance alone...you know, the guys toting those crosses...i was minding my own business, and they surrounded me and called me the devils work.

Hello there. It is always good to see you. I hang out in the "other religion" thread now incase you want to join us. It has some interesting chats.

I am sorry for your experience with those guys. It must have been uncomfortable.

I will never understand why such hatred can come out of such religions when they are suppose to represent peace and harmony, yet again many of these religious books have alot of history of violence in them.

Sorry for the experience my friend. At least they didn't start throwing stones at you

I didn't know that

monotheism is the latest trend now,it may go back to polytheism though,i'm just stickin with atheism

if in history someone had erased (or changed) parts of the bible...then i would assume christianity would have died already.

but who knows. Im sure parts have been changed. i would love to know where the oldest oldest bible is today..and have someone sit down and compare the copies.

apparently they didn't like those books...

Religion is a man-made institution. Faith and belief stand on their own.

I truly believe that Jesus existed.

I believe that he tried his best to denounce the teachings of what we now call the Old Testament.

He was crucified for his blaspheme against the Old Testament.

His very earliest followers (True Christians) knew this truth, and tried to teaching and spread the word of Jesus via word of mouth. These were common folk who didn't have the authority and resources to establish the truth of Jesus.

The authorities were outraged. They had successfully publically crucified Jesus thinking that this would squelch his followers too. But it had the opposite affect.

Jesus was made into a martyr and his teachings were gaining momentum among the True Christians. They knew that Jesus was murdered to shut him up. They didn't think for a second that Jesus was any sacrificial lamb of God. They knew that Jesus had denounced the Old Testament.

But the people in authority were not prepared to allow the teachings of Jesus to continue. So they wrote the "New Testament".

They included much of what Jesus had actually taught. Whatever they could use. Jesus denounced the public stoning of sinners. Hey, that's not a bad idea! The authoritarians could go along with that. Why not? They were probably tired of people taking the law into their own hands anyway. Why not use Jesus to make some changes while they are at it?

They wrote the New Testament using Jesus to make some changes and then they used him to revive the very Old Testament that Jesus had actually renounced.

People might say, "Where in the Bible does it ever say that Jesus renounced the Old Testament?"

Clearly anyone who asks that question isn't even coming close to following what I'm saying.

The Bible was written to make it look like Jesus had supported the Old Testament. They were using the Martyrdom of Jesus to give their failing religion a shot in the arm!

The very religion that Jesus himself had denounced!!!

Modern Christians today actually worship the people who made a pasty out of Jesus to revive the very religion that Jesus denounced.

I seriously believe this.

I feel that the evidence for this is overwhelming.

Modern Christains today are worshiping the enemies of Jesus by believing in the New Testament.

In answer to your question, I believe that the Old Testament was indeed dying out in popularity. People were getting tired of it's bigotry and violence and stoning sinners to death and judging thy neighbor.

They were ready for a change. And Jesus gave them that change by denouncing the ways of the Old and replacing them with love and forgiveness.

Modern Christianity is an oxymoron. It's a twisted combination of the love and forgiveness that Jesus actually taught nailed to the Old Testament of bigotry and judgment.

Jesus not only nailed to the cross.

But when the authorities wrote the New Testament they also nailed Jesus to the Old Testament as well.

No, I don't believe that old religion would have lasted very long if it hadn't been for the fact that Jesus was nailed to it by unscrupulous authoritarians.

I hear you. I have many many atheist friends and I tell you they are extemely intelligent and just say it how it is. No fuss, no debate, and no waste of time!

That would be highly interesting to see actually. Just to see if it is the same book at all. I wouldn't know where the oldest copy would be located. Wouldn't mind if someone knew and posted it here.

What a sad story it is. I would have loved to see someone actually write a book on Jesus and his true intents. I bet such a book seperated from the Bible would be a interesting read indeed. I don't see why you won't do such a project. It would be a best seller for sure. Just some thoughts rolling through this nutcracker

Great answer

Smiless... have you ever read up on the book of Lilith?? She was supposed to have been Adam's "first wife" before Eve... that one got thrown out of the bible too It's actually more like mythology (which to me is all the bible really is) but that's not the point here.

shhhh I will tell you a secret. I actually love to read this stuff and transform them into fantasy stories This is no lie. I use mythology to create my writings. I of course try to simplify the story and make them more interesting.

(To those who are followers of christ and the Christian Religion - I mean no harm and wish you to further your faith in whatever makes you happy, as I only wish you much peace and serenity)

but to answer your question. No I am not well versed with Christian religion. I lived all 40 of my years non religious. I learned most of my stuff on Christianity from James and Jeannie to tell you the truth.

I will read this book you suggest as long as it is written in simple English.

just google "lilith" and maybe "bible" together and you will get some stories of Lilith I think you will find it very very interesting. She was supposedly the first "feminist"

Abracadabra,

It was my understanding, from what I remember, Jesus put an end to the laws of the Old Testament when he died on the cross.

The kind of laws that I'm referring to: Males receiving the death penalty for disobeying parents and drunkenness; slavery cannot last for more then 6 yrs., don't eat pork, shellfish, and some other animals.

actually, my friend you are in a big mistake.
the jews and the fundies did erase those books.
those books are called DEUTEROCANONICAL, and are kept in catholic Bibles.
Please check your sources.
Have amazing holidays.

aaahhhh TLW we meet again Where ya been? Oh an I don't need to check my sources Good to see you again