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Topic: Why aren't we allowed to know
SkyHook5652's photo
Fri 12/05/08 08:49 AM
Sky Wrote:
just add the rule that every so often the maze changes so everything you learned about the maze up to that point becomes useless and you have to start all over.
Isn't that like day-to-day life, really?

Would you agree that everything "learned" in our conscious mind is based on the gathering and compiling of past memory? If everything perceived is filtered through past memory, how can we look upon it with truly fresh eyes?

Do we not have the possibility of starting over in each new moment? Instead of gaining and containing memory-based knowledge, couldn't there be a possibility for a deeper knowing or "wisdom".

I was considering it from a practical angle. In day-to-day life, continuity and persistence are necessary. And past memories are what give that continuity and persistence.

Take something like riding a bicycle for example. When we first start learning, we fall and crash and wobble. But after some "learning", most of the actions necessary to rid the bicycle become persistent. Do we really want to look upon bicylce riding with "truly fresh eyes" every time we want to ride a bicycle to get someplace? I'm sure I don't. I would rather "contain the memory-based knowledge" of bicycle riding.

On the other hand, there is of course the "deeper knowledge". In an absolute/philosophical sense, there is only NOW. In that sense, yes, we do have the possibility of starting over each and every moment. And depending on your viewpoint (i.e. beliefs), this "deeper knowledge" could ultimately comprise all knowledge in the universe. So in that sense, one could replace "remembering" with "knowing" and completely bypass the "learning" process.



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Fri 12/05/08 02:04 PM
Edited by splendidlife on Fri 12/05/08 02:06 PM

Sky Wrote:
just add the rule that every so often the maze changes so everything you learned about the maze up to that point becomes useless and you have to start all over.
Isn't that like day-to-day life, really?

Would you agree that everything "learned" in our conscious mind is based on the gathering and compiling of past memory? If everything perceived is filtered through past memory, how can we look upon it with truly fresh eyes?

Do we not have the possibility of starting over in each new moment? Instead of gaining and containing memory-based knowledge, couldn't there be a possibility for a deeper knowing or "wisdom".

I was considering it from a practical angle. In day-to-day life, continuity and persistence are necessary. And past memories are what give that continuity and persistence.

Take something like riding a bicycle for example. When we first start learning, we fall and crash and wobble. But after some "learning", most of the actions necessary to rid the bicycle become persistent. Do we really want to look upon bicylce riding with "truly fresh eyes" every time we want to ride a bicycle to get someplace? I'm sure I don't. I would rather "contain the memory-based knowledge" of bicycle riding.

On the other hand, there is of course the "deeper knowledge". In an absolute/philosophical sense, there is only NOW. In that sense, yes, we do have the possibility of starting over each and every moment. And depending on your viewpoint (i.e. beliefs), this "deeper knowledge" could ultimately comprise all knowledge in the universe. So in that sense, one could replace "remembering" with "knowing" and completely bypass the "learning" process.


I was speaking from the perspective of deeper knowledge ultimately comprising all knowledge of the universe.

If one could completely replace "remembering" with "knowing", thereby completely bypassing "learning", there'd be no point in coming into human existence. If this happened to all of humanity... perhaps we (humanity) would be "done".

I'm happy to remember how to drive my car. It serves me in this life. Those memories that color all new incoming information with either a "good" or "bad" assessment, could be taken into consideration before making any final assumptions (in any new situation / relationship).

One could get all Psychoanalytical here, but it only seems to lead one in a never-ending, tail-chasing cycle.

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