Weren't many Presidential candidates previous Senators or in the White House?

Yes Winx, very many. Don't you think it's unfair to run for & accept an office, then spend most of your time running for another one while getting paid to serve in the 1st? Almost all presidential candidates from both parties do it.


I don't want to hijack the thread & it's waaaay past my bedtime, but this would be a good topic for another thread sometime.


Goodnight Winx,Lynn & Robin (& anyone else see up)

that is not the issue

the issue is

she voted on the pay increase

thus she is ineligible to hold the office

It was an issue on Red Hen's post that you quoted on and I did too. "Anyway I believe no elected official should run for or accept appointment for another position in government until thier current term is over."

I got off topic & confused things, sorry. I am tired, & my line of thinking came from reading that she could take the appointment after her term was over & then it would be constitutional, I did not make that connection in my post.

Edit:

"and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office." (From article I section 6 US constitution)

Actually it just says they can't hold office while still being in congress, & I assume a senator resigns to accept a post, so I was wrong above, Sorry I am too tired to make sense.

hillary was a senator and voted for the pay raise for cabinet positions

thus she nor any other membe of congress are not permitted to be a cabinet member till their elected term ends by natural time

resignation does not make her eligible to be secretary of anything

it is unconstitutional per

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2

Article. I. - The Legislative Branch Note


Section 6 - Compensation



No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.


Emolument
: the product (as salary or fees) of an employment Source: NMW

this line is the case and point.......

No Senator or Representative shall....

be appointed to any civil Office....

during the Time for which he was elected,.....

Emoluments whereof shall have been increased

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the word and makes the following a separate issue it says

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and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.


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thus if their was a pay increase voted for te president

then obama would not constitutionally be eligible to be president

but since no pay increase was given for the office of president he is eligible

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it is the vote on the pay increase that makes them ineligible not the fact that they held of in either house of congress

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ppphhhhhhhhheeeeeewwwwwwwww

It will be interesting to watch how this plays out, Adj4u.

they are gonna give it to her

and be guilty of treason

but nothing will be done

nixion did it clinton did it

and now obama will do it

I don't understand why they put the pay raise situation in there. Why does it really matter?

so they can not vote themselves a direct pay raise

with out the people being able to kick them out of office

before they get it

adj4u has it right

By the way list of people who have moved from one position to another in government is long.

The argument is silly and just another nonsensical rants put on by people who want to muddle the minds of people too daft to figure out that they are being fed a very big hook baited with the same old chum of prejudice, hatred and twisted logic. Suck in the hook people!

Conservative pundits will keep floating this sort of thing as long as there are people to gobble it unthinkingly up.

Let's look at just one example of a current SCOTUS Justice.

Samuel Alito Jr. has been a strong conservative jurist on the Philadelphia-based Third U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, a court with a reputation for being among the most liberal in the United States.

Dubbed "Scalito" or "Scalia-lite," a play not only on his name but also his opinions, which mirror those of Justice Antonin Scalia, Alito, 55, brings a hefty legal résumé that belies his age. He has served on the federal appeals court for 15 years, since President George H.W. Bush nominated him in 1990.

Before that, Alito was U.S. attorney for the District of New Jersey from 1987 to 1990, where his first assistant was a lawyer by the name of Michael Chertoff, now the homeland security secretary.

Alito was the deputy assistant attorney general in the Reagan administration from 1985 to 1987 and assistant to the solicitor general from 1981 to 1985.

Are you saying that Alito was not eligible for the SCOTUS because he was an U.S. attorney and the position of Supreme Court Justice paid more?

i am not the point yer trying to make

That wont be the only thing he ignores. You know he cant keep all those promises he made to get elected. I bet he wont even get the troops out of Iraq

UM,,, Winx....I do not think you are allowed to 'gossip' about other posters....just an FYI.....On this one I am a bit taken back that you would state this openly.......

Lindyy

BUT, that would eliminate anyone in a government position from running for office........ obama did not finish his term.....

(AP) On the day he formally stepped down as Illinois' junior senator, President-elect Barack Obama released an open letter to state residents, saying they had taught him lessons he would draw on during his presidency.

Obama, whose resignation after nearly four years in the Senate was a formality in the wake of his Nov. 4 election victory, thanked Illinois residents in a nostalgic letter published in Sunday newspapers throughout the state." NOTE: WAKE OF HIS NOV 4 ELECTION VICTORY.....

So....now what?

There has to be more to the section of the Constition everyone is referring to....thus I agree that Constitutional lawyers may be needed....but it has been going on forever....so to be fair to hillary....why start on her?
(OMG, did I just defend a democrat that I dislike?)

Is everyone getting this confused with the fact that one cannot hold 2 positions at the same time...one of them has to be resigned from?

This is the point.....here(adj4u)Thanks.....congress voted for a pay raise ....then...a congress person can not accept the position that the pay was increased.....

it has nothing to do with holding 2 offices....


it is authorizing your own increase in pay....


it has been avoided in the past by reducing the pay of said position.....

Nixon
Johnson, I think
Carter
and someone else I forget....

Well, it's true. That's how she talks about liberals.

OMG, I think you did.

In my post was a quote from Red Hen, btw.

Your line of thinking is going the same way as mine. They have to quit one job to start another.

I brought that up earlier.

After I brought it up, other points were raised and I'm confused now.