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Topic: Obama Ignores Constitution Prohibition Against Hillary Being
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Wed 12/03/08 07:44 PM


Richard Nixon ran into the same difficulty when he appointed William Saxbe as Attorney General. The solution that was found became known as the "Saxbe Fix".

Congress passed another bill that reduced the salary of the AG so that Senator Saxbe would not benefit from the higher salary he had voted on.

Similar situation occurred when Jimmy Carter appointed Edmund Muskie as Secretary of State and Bill Clinton appointed Lloyd Benson as Secretary of the Treasury.

There is also the possibility that she may serve on a Pro Bono basis.

So is the problem that a serving Senator is being nominated or the specific Senator that is being nominated?

I believe the answer is obvious..laugh


Yes, it is.laugh

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Wed 12/03/08 07:44 PM







Obviously what the law was addressing was a situation where someone....


Umm $crew it...wouldn't it be swell if some people applied this level of scrutiny to the current administration?

Oh wait...that would blow their Bush is swell theory right out of the water.

Funny to hear a bunch of people who whole heartedly endorsed Bush breaking laws and hated lawyers, pointing out every statute and piece of administrative law that might hold up appointments or actions of the future administration in hopes of a challenge while they ignored Shrub pooping on the Constitution, individual rights, international treaties and the reputation of the United States of America.

The same people who said lawyers are evil are now embracing them haha

I love it. I have been posting for months about how many will hate it when the powers they willing gave Bush without question are used by other presidents.

You reap what you sow. hahahaha



It would not matter to me who the president or the cabinet appointee was or thier party affiliation. I did not vote for Bush or Obama, but that's beside the point. The point is the constitution is the basis of our government & it should be followed. This is the 1st I have heard ofthis situation. I am wondering why it was not resolved in the past with an amendment,or upheld instead of ignored.

Anyway I believe no elected official should run for or accept appointment for another position in government until thier current term is over.


that would mean they would have to do some actual work


Weren't many Presidential candidates previous Senators or in the White House?


that is not the issue

the issue is

she voted on the pay increase

thus she is ineligible to hold the office


It was an issue on Red Hen's post that you quoted on and I did too. "Anyway I believe no elected official should run for or accept appointment for another position in government until thier current term is over."


Winx that statement was my personal opinion, & I am sorry I was unclear & got off topic.


That's okay. It was late for me too.flowerforyou

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Wed 12/03/08 07:46 PM




It will be interesting to watch how this plays out, Adj4u.


they are gonna give it to her

and be guilty of treason

but nothing will be done

nixion did it clinton did it

and now obama will do it


I don't understand why they put the pay raise situation in there. Why does it really matter?


so they can not vote themselves a direct pay raise

with out the people being able to kick them out of office

before they get it




Thanks, Adj4u.

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Thu 12/04/08 08:08 AM



Obama, a former lecturer on Constitutional Law, seems willing to ignore the Constitution is troubling, but not surprising in the least.



Congress cannot take an appointment for which the pay has gone up during the time that person held office in Congress. The pay for the Secretary of State has gone up in the last year that which would prevent Hillary from getting appointed.


We are screwed the nation's constitution is worthless.....Politics as usual...party affiliations does not matter...


It has been for a long time.

The United States is a bankrupt corporation. It went bankrupt illegally.

The constitution is meaningless.

The dollar is worthless.

Laws are simply statutes of the corporation since that happened.

Not many people know this.




The United States is not bankrupt, perhaps the banks and the government sux .... that's when people should do something about it..because that's what makes USA, the people in it.

I think most people are waiting what the Obama presidency brings and see whether it's good or not..or how it plays out, don't worry, there are still plenty of patriots, even in these crappy times. :wink:


The fact that the United States of America is a bankrupt corporation is kept very secret. Lawyers know this fact. They are sworn to secrecy.

Federal reserve notes are not real money. They represent debt. They are all promissory notes. There IS NO GOLD OR SILVER backing our paper money.

There are plenty of patriots and people who think they are patriots that have no clue about the facts.




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Thu 12/04/08 08:10 AM
There are plenty of patriots and people who think they are patriots that have no clue about the facts.


boy, that's a no sh*tter

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Sat 12/06/08 07:19 AM
Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is constitutionally ineligible to serve as Secretary of State in the Obama administration.

“The Saxbe Fix” may reduce the salary of Secretary of State to previous levels, but it does not affect what is a clear constitutional prohibition. It cannot change the fact that the salary had been increased while Senator Clinton served in Congress. (President Ronald Reagan reportedly did not appoint Senator Orrin Hatch to the Supreme Court because of this provision.) Simply put, the Constitution does not provide for a legislative remedy for the Ineligibility Clause.

“There’s no getting around the Constitution’s Ineligibility Clause, so Hillary Clinton is prohibited from serving in the Cabinet until at least 2013, when her current term expires,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Barack Obama should select someone who is eligible for the position of Secretary of State and save the country from a constitutional battle over Hillary Clinton’s confirmation. No public official who has taken the oath to support and defend the Constitution should support this appointment. And aside from the constitutional issue, Hillary Clinton’s long track record of corruption makes her a terrible choice to serve as the nation’s top diplomat.”

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Sat 12/06/08 07:21 AM
Edited by adj4u on Sat 12/06/08 07:24 AM

Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is constitutionally ineligible to serve as Secretary of State in the Obama administration.

“The Saxbe Fix” may reduce the salary of Secretary of State to previous levels, but it does not affect what is a clear constitutional prohibition. It cannot change the fact that the salary had been increased while Senator Clinton served in Congress. (President Ronald Reagan reportedly did not appoint Senator Orrin Hatch to the Supreme Court because of this provision.) Simply put, the Constitution does not provide for a legislative remedy for the Ineligibility Clause.

“There’s no getting around the Constitution’s Ineligibility Clause, so Hillary Clinton is prohibited from serving in the Cabinet until at least 2013, when her current term expires,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Barack Obama should select someone who is eligible for the position of Secretary of State and save the country from a constitutional battle over Hillary Clinton’s confirmation. No public official who has taken the oath to support and defend the Constitution should support this appointment. And aside from the constitutional issue, Hillary Clinton’s long track record of corruption makes her a terrible choice to serve as the nation’s top diplomat.”



good post war

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912

those that do not understand the politics should watch th video

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