Topic: Marine expelled over YouTube puppy video
Dan99's photo
Tue 12/02/08 03:28 PM
Fish

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Tue 12/02/08 03:54 PM


There is no way im even gonna take a look at those videos. They shouldnt really be posted here, or allowed anywhere for that matter, in my opinion.


why is that


because it perpetuates it

same reason the TV won't show the idiots who run out on the field during (NFL) football games

adj4u's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:01 PM



There is no way im even gonna take a look at those videos. They shouldnt really be posted here, or allowed anywhere for that matter, in my opinion.


why is that


because it perpetuates it

same reason the TV won't show the idiots who run out on the field during (NFL) football games


so where is the line drawn

maybe football games should not be shown neither

because kids go out and play football and get hurt

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freedom or slavery you can not have both

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Tue 12/02/08 04:08 PM




There is no way im even gonna take a look at those videos. They shouldnt really be posted here, or allowed anywhere for that matter, in my opinion.


why is that


because it perpetuates it

same reason the TV won't show the idiots who run out on the field during (NFL) football games


so where is the line drawn

maybe football games should not be shown neither

because kids go out and play football and get hurt

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freedom or slavery you can not have both


the line is drawn wherever we the people say it should be.

Dan99's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:22 PM
Edited by Dan99 on Tue 12/02/08 04:23 PM




There is no way im even gonna take a look at those videos. They shouldnt really be posted here, or allowed anywhere for that matter, in my opinion.


why is that


because it perpetuates it

same reason the TV won't show the idiots who run out on the field during (NFL) football games


so where is the line drawn

maybe football games should not be shown neither

because kids go out and play football and get hurt

------------------

freedom or slavery you can not have both


Lol!! I dont think you can compare football to puppy tossing somehow.

Most kids that play football, which happens to be legal(where i would imagine puppy tossing is not), get fit rather than get hurt.

Im not sure where the line should be drawn exactly, but people killing animals for fun is way beyond any reasonable persons level of decency.

Not including hunting and fishing.

adj4u's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:25 PM





There is no way im even gonna take a look at those videos. They shouldnt really be posted here, or allowed anywhere for that matter, in my opinion.


why is that


because it perpetuates it

same reason the TV won't show the idiots who run out on the field during (NFL) football games


so where is the line drawn

maybe football games should not be shown neither

because kids go out and play football and get hurt

------------------

freedom or slavery you can not have both


the line is drawn wherever we the people say it should be.




democracy is the wants of the majority trampling the rights of the minority

this is not a democracy by the way

Winx's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:26 PM
Edited by Winx on Tue 12/02/08 04:28 PM




You see if our forefathers the stone age guys wouldnt have killed they wouldnt have survived and in return we wouldnt have...

besides it is always advisable to kill your food before you eat it e.g.
Pig
Chicken
Turkey
Bull
etc...

just a precausionary measure so that they dont cause you pain in stomach when they check in and arse when they check out


Of course we don't have to eat meat to survive because of vegetation. It's been there as long as we can trace back. Most dinosaurs lived strictly off the plant life and we can too. Not trying to persuade anyone, just saying. :smile:



yep

and those that eat meat

have no business condemning anyone for killing an animal




I totally disagree.

Besides, the way he did it was for a sick pleasure.





adj4u's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:28 PM





There is no way im even gonna take a look at those videos. They shouldnt really be posted here, or allowed anywhere for that matter, in my opinion.


why is that


because it perpetuates it

same reason the TV won't show the idiots who run out on the field during (NFL) football games


so where is the line drawn

maybe football games should not be shown neither

because kids go out and play football and get hurt

------------------

freedom or slavery you can not have both


Lol!! I dont think you can compare football to puppy tossing somehow.

Most kids that play football, which happens to be legal(where i would imagine puppy tossing is not), get fit rather than get hurt.

Im not sure where the line should be drawn exactly, but people killing animals for fun is way beyond any reasonable persons level of decency.

Not including hunting and fishing.




why not hunting and fishing sounds hypocritical to me

killing for fun is either legal or its not

why is a puppy so special

after all that pit bull that atacked someone used to be a puppy

Dan99's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:33 PM






There is no way im even gonna take a look at those videos. They shouldnt really be posted here, or allowed anywhere for that matter, in my opinion.


why is that


because it perpetuates it

same reason the TV won't show the idiots who run out on the field during (NFL) football games


so where is the line drawn

maybe football games should not be shown neither

because kids go out and play football and get hurt

------------------

freedom or slavery you can not have both


Lol!! I dont think you can compare football to puppy tossing somehow.

Most kids that play football, which happens to be legal(where i would imagine puppy tossing is not), get fit rather than get hurt.

Im not sure where the line should be drawn exactly, but people killing animals for fun is way beyond any reasonable persons level of decency.

Not including hunting and fishing.




why not hunting and fishing sounds hypocritical to me

killing for fun is either legal or its not

why is a puppy so special

after all that pit bull that atacked someone used to be a puppy



There are lots of reasons why hunting and fishing are acceptable. Its a whole different debate, and a big one, i believe there is a thread already.

A puppy is not special at all to me. But if you cant see that it is wrong to kill one in the way described for a laugh, then you have something wrong with you.

adj4u's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:35 PM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 12/02/08 04:37 PM







There is no way im even gonna take a look at those videos. They shouldnt really be posted here, or allowed anywhere for that matter, in my opinion.


why is that


because it perpetuates it

same reason the TV won't show the idiots who run out on the field during (NFL) football games


so where is the line drawn

maybe football games should not be shown neither

because kids go out and play football and get hurt

------------------

freedom or slavery you can not have both


Lol!! I dont think you can compare football to puppy tossing somehow.

Most kids that play football, which happens to be legal(where i would imagine puppy tossing is not), get fit rather than get hurt.

Im not sure where the line should be drawn exactly, but people killing animals for fun is way beyond any reasonable persons level of decency.

Not including hunting and fishing.




why not hunting and fishing sounds hypocritical to me

killing for fun is either legal or its not

why is a puppy so special

after all that pit bull that atacked someone used to be a puppy



There are lots of reasons why hunting and fishing are acceptable. Its a whole different debate, and a big one, i believe there is a thread already.

A puppy is not special at all to me. But if you cant see that it is wrong to kill one in the way described for a laugh, then you have something wrong with you.


it matters not what i think

a double standard is wrong

i did not watch the video neither

but the double standard is clear

the puppy is valued more than the lives

of those murdered by sewer water

that is my point all along


Dan99's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:37 PM
Its not a double standard.

Would you throw a puppy off a cliff?


adj4u's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:38 PM

Its not a double standard.

Would you throw a puppy off a cliff?




read the edit

Dan99's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:41 PM
I read it, and im none the wiser why you are choosing the line of argument that you are using.

I have gotta leave this thread now, i need to stick Fido's paw in the blender.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:42 PM
Throwing a puppy off a cliff is not what I call normal behavior .After all serial killers start out torturing and killing animals.I am really psyched that this sociopath has been trained to kill humans.
I don't give a **** if it's an baby seal,cat,puppie,wolf etc,filming a cruel act is sick ****.

adj4u's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:45 PM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 12/02/08 04:48 PM
i am not condoning the throwing of the puppy

i am condemning the censorship of the video

that was suggested earlier

and

the continued use of sewer water [who did worse]

and the discharge of the individual marine

thus alice's rest. ref

d3vi1d06's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:46 PM
you know if you people were smart you would see that the puppy was photoshoped into the video. in fact the original video showed that same marine throwing a grenade. but people always draw conclusions on what they see at first, and are blinded by their dislike for the military. take a closer look at the puppy in the video. and try to find the original video. I've seen the original video before the puppy one came out.

Dan99's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:49 PM
...that poor hand grenade

Winx's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:52 PM
Edited by Winx on Tue 12/02/08 04:57 PM

you know if you people were smart you would see that the puppy was photoshoped into the video. in fact the original video showed that same marine throwing a grenade. but people always draw conclusions on what they see at first, and are blinded by their dislike for the military. take a closer look at the puppy in the video. and try to find the original video. I've seen the original video before the puppy one came out.


I am not blinded by any dislike for the military. I have no dislike for them.

I am troubled by any person that is cruel to animals. They are scary creatures.

If such a video exists of him throwing a grenade, please show us where it is. I have seen only the puppy video.

I find it interesting that you think it's photoshopped, yet the news people and the man's superiors don't see that.

And..yes, I'm smart enough.:wink:



adj4u's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:54 PM
http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/throwpuppy.asp

undetermined


Winx's photo
Tue 12/02/08 04:57 PM

http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/throwpuppy.asp

undetermined




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